Government is still making payments to relatives of civil war vets

[Lithium381]

i agree with paying children IF under 18.

after that they are adults/

i concur

Should we not provide help though a 2-4year degree or trade school.
Loseing[sic] Mom or Dad can be a huge financial loss for the average child.

Hmmmm, true. Maybe some provision here . . not a full ride, but help..

 

[Nebor]

They are honorable men, but the problem is, they are going to stand in line for free govt money just like anyone else.

I worked as DoD contractor for quite a few years and in my experience, most disabled vets are middle aged men with middle age ailments that are no where near makes them disabled.

I think this is exactly it. When Master Sergeants or field grade officers get ready to retire, they spend their last year going to medical appointments to up their disability %. They have meetings to discuss tactics, the easiest things to game, etc. Of course, the system helps them, as from the doctors position, it's no skin off his back if some guy gets an extra $600 a month.

And the whole system is still reeling from that Navy Seal that's supposedly "out on the street" after killing Bin Laden claiming that the Navy didn't help him at all. It's caused a massive push to make sure everyone gets on as many benefits as they can. I spent hours yesterday arguing with a lady about why I don't need disability or unemployment or any other government cheese.

 

[Nebor]

Should we not provide help though a 2-4year degree or trade school.
Loseing Mom or Dad can be a huge financial loss for the average child.

That's been the case for a long time. The children of veterans killed in action get full rides to school through various state and federal programs, as well as the inheritance of their parent's GI Bill.

 

[Blackjack200]

Apparently they are...did you read the article?

The article says there are:

Don't know how I missed that last paragraph. It's a crock of shit. The war ended a hundred and fifty years ago. The last children of Civil War vets must have died twenty/thirty years ago.

Just to illustrate: My mother is the daughter of a WWII vet, and she's 64 years old. My grandfather was not young when he had her, he was around 30. WWII was 80 years after The Civil War.

My guess is there was some funny business played with birth certificates.

But:

In any case, the grand total of payments for the Civil War and Spanish-American War is about $70K by my calculations. That's so infinitesimally small I cannot manage to feign any concern.

I agree with this.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Don't know how I missed that last paragraph. It's a crock of shit. The war ended a hundred and fifty years ago. The last children of Civil War vets must have died twenty/thirty years ago.

Just to illustrate: My mother is the daughter of a WWII vet, and she's 64 years old. My grandfather was not young when he had her, he was around 30. WWII was 80 years after The Civil War.

My guess is there was some funny business played with birth certificates.

But:



I agree with this.

I laid out the situation for the Civil War dependant.

When I first heard, I researched it.
longevity genes

 

[Pr0d1gy]

Yeah, we cant take care of our vets and their families but sure let's spend another trillion on planes and tanks we don't need!

pfft

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

this is accurate.

Vets came home and in their 70-80s were having children.

One that was 18 during the Civil War would be born around 1845. If he had a child in 1920; that child would be in their 90s. Long life spans can be hereditary.

Yes, in this example and most up to WWII is an abuse of the system.
Adult children should not be receiving benefits.

Dude, the life expectancy in 1900 was... 46 for males, 48 for females

http://mappinghistory.uoregon.edu/english/US/US39-01.html

What you're essentially saying is how many Korean War veterans are giving birth today? Well, that's not even accounting for the fact that life expectancy in 1950 is much higher today.

 

[randomrogue]

What the fuck?! I can see paying a veteran's child if they died. However why would we still be paying children of veterans that didn't die? The civil war ended 148 years ago. This is insane. So some 16 year old kid fights in the civil war, has a kid at 70 and it's still alive and getting cash from the government? Get the fuck outta here!

 

[EagleKeeper]

Dude, the life expectancy in 1900 was... 46 for males, 48 for females

http://mappinghistory.uoregon.edu/english/US/US39-01.html

What you're essentially saying is how many Korean War veterans are giving birth today? Well, that's not even accounting for the fact that life expectancy in 1950 is much higher today.

Average life expectancy is different that max life.
Some make it into 80s and can have kids.
Happened then and now.

Every few years some 80 year old pops s child from his 30 yr old wife.
Longevity in the jeans for living and shooting

 

[Mursilis]

What the fuck?! I can see paying a veteran's child if they died. However why would we still be paying children of veterans that didn't die? The civil war ended 148 years ago. This is insane. So some 16 year old kid fights in the civil war, has a kid at 70 and it's still alive and getting cash from the government? Get the fuck outta here!

You'd enjoy this then: I'm looking at official public data from the VA on its compensation rolls. Unfortunately, this data is a bit dated (May 2001) but it's still interesting. For veterans of the Spanish-American War, wartime service is recognized as service between 1898-1902. As of May 2001, there are no more recognized living veterans of that war (last one died in 1992), but there are still 438 surviving spouses and 264 children receiving benefits. For a war that ended over 100 years ago.

 

[fskimospy]

The article says there are:



I find it hard to believe.

In any case, the grand total of payments for the Civil War and Spanish-American War is about $70K by my calculations. That's so infinitesimally small I cannot manage to feign any concern.

Otherwise, the real numbers here all derive from what has been of one our largest problems for quite some time: Out-of-control health care costs.

Fern

In fact the last widow of a civil war soldier died in 2003, it is not at all hard to believe that there are still some surviving children.

Long living people combined with gross old men marrying really young people = super long generational gaps.

 

[waggy]

Should we not provide help though a 2-4year degree or trade school.
Loseing Mom or Dad can be a huge financial loss for the average child.

hmm good point and i agree with it.

In fact the last widow of a civil war soldier died in 2003, it is not at all hard to believe that there are still some surviving children.

Long living people combined with gross old men marrying really young people = super long generational gaps.

Hmm the last names would happen to be Long would they? One of them named Lazarus? hmm :hmm:

 

[GoPackGo]

I think you all complaining about children getting benefits missed this part: Children under the age of 18 can also qualify, and those benefits are extended for a lifetime if the person is permanently incapable of self-support due to a disability before the age of 18.