Gov. Christie Reacts to Failure of Federal Aid

[lotus503]

Don't forget one thing here...
While Christie says words like unfair, second class, second rate, while Christie says words like that, a bill is still sitting on his desk UNSIGNED. A bill passed by both the NJ house and senate, a bill giving same sex marriage rights.
THAT BILL still sits unsigned on the desk of gov Christie for one and only one reason.
And so... I have NO crock tears for that obviously upset governed Christie.
Does he want to know the true feeling and or meaning of "fairness", of "second class citizen" ?
Do you governor ??? Do you really ???

While I fully support same sex marriage and do get your line of thought, I don't equate being able to marry with having clean drinking water.

 

[LumbergTech]

Christie is a douche, just another person from NJ that is a big blowhard whose head is firmly up obama's ass.

Why? Because he has the balls to speak the truth? If the GOP had more people like this who would actually criticize the idiocy of their party from within, maybe it could actually turn itself around.

 

[ivwshane]

I actually approve of the $27,000,000,000.00 ($27 Billion) figure, so your claim is, once again, a lie.
I fixed your spelling for you again too.

Lol, you hear the words "fucking morons" and you instinctively know its you. Nice!

Maybe you can tell your buddies in this thread and in congress about your approval, I'm sure they would care. Maybe you could trade conspiracy theories with each other whole you are at it, or at least get your talking points together for the next faux outrage.


Oh and thanks for fixing my spelling errors, it looks like you finally found a purpose for your life, good for you

 

[Daverino]

http://urbangrounds.com/2013/01/sandy-relief-bill-kille/


Cliff deal included wind energy tax credit expected to cost $12.1 billion this year.*******/xg7FL
Sandy relief shouldn’t include fisheries in Alaska.
Sandy relief shouldn’t include $5.3B to the Army Corps of Engineers (that’s more than their annual budget).
Sandy relief shouldn’t include $56.8 million for charting the debris from last year’s Japanese tsunami.
Sandy relief shouldn’t include $41 million for eight military bases including Guantanamo Bay.
Sandy relief shouldn’t include $100 million for the federal Head Start day care program.
Sandy relief shouldn’t include $188 million for new Amtrak lines (not repair, whole new lines).
Sandy relief shouldn’t include $20 million for a nationwide “Water Resources Priorities Study”.
Sandy relief shouldn’t include $4 million for the Kennedy Space Center. [Which is in Florida. Which was completely untouched or affected by Hurricane Sandy.
Oh, btw, that Corps of Engineers Sandy funding? Obama Admin has it earmarked for addressing "impacts associated with a changing climate.”]

The first item, the wind credits, was in the cliff deal. It wasn't in the Sandy package. Says that in your quote and in your link.

The Army Corps of Engineers was, among many many other things, responsible for removing the water from the major transit tunnels into New York City after Sandy. Money allocated to them is completely reasonable within the realm of this disaster relief. Regarding the bogus 'climate change' assertion, perhaps reading the appropriation from the White House would help clear that up:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/def..._7_2012_hurricane_sandy_funding_needs.pdf.pdf

Agency: CORPS OF ENGINEERS – CIVIL WORKS
Account: Construction
Subcommittee: Energy and Water Development
FY 2013 Estimated Need: $3,820,000,000
The Army Corps of Engineers civil works program would use $3.8 billion for
implementation and construction of projects in areas affected by Hurricane Sandy that reduce the
future flood risk, in ways that will promote the long-term sustainability of the coastal ecosystem
and communities and reduce the economic costs and risks to life associated with large-scale
flood and storm events, and would, to the extent possible, incorporate and address the increased
risk and vulnerabilities expected as a result of increased extreme weather, sea level rise, and
coastal flooding. Such projects may include, but are not limited to, previously authorized projects
designed to reduce flood risk subject to a determination by the Secretary of the Army that such
projects incorporate current science and engineering standards and are consistent with the goals
of funds provided in this section. For existing authorized, but not constructed projects, and
previously constructed projects damaged by Hurricane Sandy that the Secretary determines do
not meet these criteria, and projects not currently authorized for construction, language would be
provided to authorize the Secretary to implement projects with any modifications that the
Secretary determines are necessary to meet the goals of funds provided in this section. Projects
constructed with funds provided in this section would be authorized at 90 percent Federal cost
share. The Corps would require authority to transfers these funds to other agencies, States or
local governments, as necessary, to implement elements of any plans resulting from the study to
be completed with funds provided in the Investigations account.

So your left with about 400 million of 'pork' in a 60 BILLION dollar relief bill. In other words, less than one percent of the total bill's size. Go dig into your talking points again for help. Chain emails from crappy blogs aren't going to cut it.

Denying disaster relief to millions of Americans is, simply, un-American. It is disgusting, base and vile.

 

[monovillage]

Citation please. I heard Obama once spent $200 million a day when visiting India and required 1/3 of the US Navy as an escort.

Here's one, plenty more if you look for them.

GOP Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Coburn, two frequent critics of government spending, targeted what they called "questionable" spending in the Democratic bill, including $2 million for roof repairs at Smithsonian Institution museums and more than $58 million in subsidies for tree planting on private properties. A McCain amendment to strip the tree subsidies failed.Republicans also criticized $13 billion in the Democratic bill for projects to protect against future storms, including fortifying mass transit systems in the Northeast and protecting vulnerable seaside areas by building jetties against storm surges. Republicans said however worthy such projects may be, they are not urgently needed and should be considered by Congress in the usual appropriations process next year.

The Congressional Budget Office has estimated that only about $9 billion of the $60.4 billion proposed by Democrats would be spent over the next nine months. The Democratic bill included many large infrastructure projects that often require years to complete, but Republicans said the CBO estimate of such drawn-out spending undercuts the urgency of the Democrats' aid package.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57561211/senate-approves-$60.4-billion-sandy-aid-bill/

"only 400 million is pork" derp, derp-a-derp, derp

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=derp

 

[Ausm]

Did you personally fund that entire amount? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

Waiting for your damage assessment.....

 

[zsdersw]

It's always pork until or unless it directly affects you. No one in this thread has demonstrated differently.

 

[HomerJS]

and you wonder why the Republican brand is lower then excrement??

Obama: "I told my staff return calls within 15 min"

Boner: "Screw Christie"


Notice the silence by Fox News on Christie's and Peter King's reaction

 

[Daverino]

Here's one, plenty more if you look for them.



http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57561211/senate-approves-$60.4-billion-sandy-aid-bill/

So where's the pork? Again?

When Katrina hit, part of the relief package was to repair and reinforce the levees. That's common sense long term work. No different here.

Unless you can show that a major fraction of the spending in the bill was not related to Sandy you're just spouting nonsense. I can wait patiently.

 

[Ausm]

So where's the pork? Again?

When Katrina hit, part of the relief package was to repair and reinforce the levees. That's common sense long term work. No different here.

Unless you can show that a major fraction of the spending in the bill was not related to Sandy you're just spouting nonsense. I can wait patiently.

Please note I am first in line waiting for his detailed damage assessment.

 

[umbrella39]

Why? Because he has the balls to speak the truth? If the GOP had more people like this who would actually criticize the idiocy of their party from within, maybe it could actually turn itself around.

Isn't it hilarious how the fanbois here have turned a 180 on this guy?!?! If the GOP had more people like him they'd be called democrats...

 

[Capt Caveman]

It's always pork until or unless it directly affects you. No one in this thread has demonstrated differently.

Yep. GOP Pork is alright but not for the other team.

 

[Nemesis 1]

http://www.livestream.com/governorc...3913&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb

Can't fault him for feelings of disgust towards those who have stood in the way of Federal aid. His quick rundown of the reaction times to disasters in the past brings things into clear focus.

I hope that things get better for NY/NJ and all the people still waiting for help after the natural disaster.

This is all well in good . But where is Read cross . The united way and Sandy relief found money people contributed. Many 1000's of people are complaining That No one from these organization . I recall the Haite earthquake . My family contributed a fair amount . Robert went there personally per my request and we made sure our gift went into the hands of those who truely needed it . I don't recall how much the US gooberment said they would give in aid and all the other chatities that recieved donations for these victims . Over 250,000 dead . But I can tell ya all the gooberments lied all the charities lied that are nation wide . They are all parasits. Here is video of were that money was or wasn't spent . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F6dNUd-Dqk.

Also I read new story yesterday I believe about a hispanic family That house flooded to second level there insurance company will only pay 29,000 dollars for repairs .

That seems heartless as reported . But let me tell ya . That house had to have costed at least $200,000 in that area of country . I have basic house insurance . If that were my home I would have recieved in personnal losses without the property loss . a $100,000 just in personall lost . Than my insurance company would pay for full restoration of the property. What ever that may be . My insurance would have paid instantly their that good and its not that expensive. People not having enough insurance in place to cover their losses Isn't OUR problem . Its theirs! They rolled the dice and lost ,Its that simple. No way do we give these 2 freeloading states 60 billion in aid unless the PEOPLE get it . We all know that isn't how game is played.

Their are pictures on utube of Josilin . Go look at that town now , Gooberment aid my ass

 

[Nemesis 1]

Isn't it hilarious how the fanbois here have turned a 180 on this guy?!?! If the GOP had more people like him they'd be called democrats...

No they wouldn't theyed be gangsters . The Pork in that 60 billion bill is completely out of order . THERE SHOULD BE NO PORK for a natural disasters. Also Displaced people . What kind of insurance do these people carry . If you live near the ocean and you don't have proper insurance or claim you can't afford it , TO dam-n bad . You gambled and lost . I live near a river . 35feet above flood plain . Yet I still carry flood insurance and because Iam not in flood zone its cheap . If you can't pay don't play . First rule of survile.

 

[zsdersw]

No they wouldn't theyed be gangsters . The Pork in that 60 billion bill is completely out of order . THERE SHOULD BE NO PORK for a natural disasters. Also Displaced people . What kind of insurance do these people carry . If you live near the ocean and you don't have proper insurance or claim you can't afford it , TO dam-n bad . You gambled and lost . I live near a river . 35feet above flood plain . Yet I still carry flood insurance and because Iam not in flood zone its cheap . If you can't pay don't play . First rule of survile.

Learn English, dumbass.

 

[sactoking]

Christie's a blowhard. He's whining about not receiving this free federal money for public health when he voluntarily passed up on free federal billions for public health by way of the Medicaid expansion.

Partisan hypocrit.

 

[Nemesis 1]

You guys are amazing . You have topic on climate change and many argue either way . You can't believe in global warming and agree with spending large amounts of money on coastal flood control . You either believe the ice caps are melting or you don't . From what I have seen . None believe in climate change or they wouldn't even thinK of these pork projects. They would move the displaced people away from the shore line areas . I can agree to spending money in this manner . But not for what the fraudster are asking to do with said money

 

[tweaker2]

Come 2016 when Christie will be one of the Presidential frontrunners for the Repubs all of his legitimate ranting on the delays in receiving aid will be conveniently swept under the rug.

The way I see it, he's getting payback for chumming it up with Obama during the immediate aftermath of the hurricane.

It's my fervent wish that Christie hops the fence and joins the Dems seeing as if he's already being branded a RINO by the far right. if I had to pick a Repub as president, he'd be the one because he's independent minded like most Dems and independents are. He's definetely not a sock puppet in any way, shape or form.

The more I see and hear of his gargantuan well endowed derriere the more I like his style. He'd make a formidable challenger to any Dem wishing to vye for the presidency.

 

[Daverino]

Come 2016 when Christie will be one of the Presidential frontrunners for the Repubs all of his legitimate ranting on receiving aid will be conveniently swept under the rug.

The way I see it, he's getting payback for chumming it up with Obama in the immediate aftermath of the hurricane.

It's my fervent wish that Christie hops the fence and joins the Dems seeing as if he's already being branded a RINO by the far right. if I had to pick a Repub as president, he'd be the one because he's independent minded like most Dems and independents are. He's definetely not a sock puppet in any way, shape or form.

The more I see and hear of his gargantuan well endowed derriere the more I like his style. He'd make a formidable challenger to any Dem wishing to vye for the presidency.

At this rate, Christie won't have to hop the fence, although the mental image of that is pretty entertaining. The GOP is picking up the fence and moving it further to the right of him. The Republican Party was born out of the disintegrating Whig party. History tends to repeat itself.

 

[bozack]

Why? Because he has the balls to speak the truth? If the GOP had more people like this who would actually criticize the idiocy of their party from within, maybe it could actually turn itself around.

Its cause he is clown and expects to be taken seriously....

He has no balls in what he did, and I actually think their not approving the measure was a great thing, show that meatball where he stands, take the time to really review it, and then hopefully do something that actually helps instead of a pushing through a pork filled turd...

He can complain all he wants, and he can go suck up to the dems for support....but regardless he still isn't seemingly getting what he wants in this case.

 

[zsdersw]

Again... it's always pork until or unless it directly affects you.

Since none of you apparently live in an area hard hit by Sandy your assessment of the situation is as flawed as anyone else's.

 

[bozack]

Again... it's always pork until or unless it directly affects you.

Since none of you apparently live in an area hard hit by Sandy your assessment of the situation is as flawed as anyone else's.

Do I think their denying it has to do with pork as much as it did retribution for his giving Obama a reach around during the election, nope...I firmly believe this was a bitch slap on the part of the house, might even be a move to force him to switch parties and just get it over with....

But regardless, to the point about it only having an impact on those effected..

Sure, if I lived in an area which was hit by this I might be more inclined to have it approved without review simply because I was there and wanted things to move forward, but even with that it still wouldn't make my position "right"...looks like there are millions that could be cut from what was being proposed, so better off holding it up and getting it lean than passing just another big check to be used and abused.

 

[zsdersw]

Do I think their denying it has to do with pork as much as it did retribution for his giving Obama a reach around during the election, nope...I firmly believe this was a bitch slap on the part of the house, might even be a move to force him to switch parties and just get it over with....

But regardless, to the point about it only having an impact on those effected..

Sure, if I lived in an area which was hit by this I might be more inclined to have it approved without review simply because I was there and wanted things to move forward, but even with that it still wouldn't make my position "right"...looks like there are millions that could be cut from what was being proposed, so better off holding it up and getting it lean than passing just another big check to be used and abused.

To you, in that circumstance, it would be right.

 

[Zargon]

Again... it's always pork until or unless it directly affects you.

Since none of you apparently live in an area hard hit by Sandy your assessment of the situation is as flawed as anyone else's.

I'd have to agree that that expansion/improvement of existing stuff should be its own bill

why should the fed foot the bill for NEW YORK CITY to upgrade their subway they under built?



ass for the jerkbags that lived on an island or coast with no insurance, I guess they just learned a lesson on being a cheapass. I live in IL and have insurance that covers earthquakes for gods sake

And it's the job of the Federal Government to aid those hit by natural disasters.

to a point yeah.

they should be providing emergency relief, but they shouldnt be paying to rebuild private residences and fix stuff the state should be paying for. emergency relief. not dumbass-decision relief

http://urbangrounds.com/2013/01/sandy-relief-bill-kille/



Sandy relief shouldn’t include fisheries in Alaska.
Sandy relief shouldn’t include $5.3B to the Army Corps of Engineers (that’s more than their annual budget).
Sandy relief shouldn’t include $56.8 million for charting the debris from last year’s Japanese tsunami.
Sandy relief shouldn’t include $41 million for eight military bases including Guantanamo Bay.
Sandy relief shouldn’t include $100 million for the federal Head Start day care program.
Sandy relief shouldn’t include $188 million for new Amtrak lines (not repair, whole new lines).
Sandy relief shouldn’t include $20 million for a nationwide “Water Resources Priorities Study”.
Sandy relief shouldn’t include $4 million for the Kennedy Space Center. [Which is in Florida. Which was completely untouched or affected by Hurricane Sandy.
Oh, btw, that Corps of Engineers Sandy funding? Obama Admin has it earmarked for addressing "impacts associated with a changing climate.”]

if thats all true I agree, most of it needs to go and the army coprs stuff gets cut to what is needed to patch fix what is there, and the actual improvements can be its own deal that actually gets LOOKED AT HEAVILY instead of snuck in under the guise of aid

we are freakin broke afterall

 

[monovillage]

I don't consider $13 Billion in future mitigation plans to be a valid part of a Sandy recovery Bill.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/little_help_here_1kW6aQ8fElj4CKwbheEV0N

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Artic...e-Pork-into-Hurricane-Sandy-Relief.aspx#page1