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Gov. Blanco stands firm!

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Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: dcaron
Originally posted by: Tab
Why should we re-build New Orleans? 😕

Are you suggesting that we let them rot and cut our losses?

Get the people out of the city make sure they get some form of aid. Then let them go...

The city is basically gone, unless it's somehow worthwhile to rebuild the city. You'll have to convice me on that one.


It is one of the most important ports in the United States. Most of the bananas you eat come through New Orleans or Mobile to mention just one commodity. It is one of those useless Red state cities that the DS liberals believe they don't need.
 
Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: conjur
In her press conference tonight:
"I have 2 issues to talk about.

#1 300 Arkansas guard troops just back from Iraq are now in New Orleans. They are under my orders to restore order immediately. They are armed with M15s and are trained to use them. They are battle tested. They will restore order. The people who are interfering with our attempt to help the people of New Orleans will no longer be tolerated. We are expecting the other troops that I have DEMANDED soon.

#2. Dennis Hastert said today that we should not rebuild New Orleans. I DEMAND an apology, and I DEMAND it immediately."

There ya go, Governor! Kick some ass, seabass. Order needs to be restored so the evacuations and rescues can proceed safely and the levee breach repairs completed.


Although, I earlier heard on WWL that the 17th St. canal breach should be repaired by tonight! 🙂

Wow! She finally comes out and makes a strong statement. Think how much better things would have been if she had done that earlier AND HAD FORMULATED A PLAN OTHER THAN TO WHINE BEFORE THE DISASTER!


You definitely have a firm grasp on something. It obviously isn't the situation.
 
Originally posted by: rickn
new orleans needs to be rebuilt, but they need to overhaul the levee system. most of it hasn't been touched since the 1960's

Funny you should mention that. It turns out that the leeves that failed are the ones that benefited from the 430 million dollars of liberal funds and had been rebuilt. Unfortunately, it appears to have been of little effect. No amount of money could have prevented this. A good disaster management plan in the city and state governments could have held things together until the Feds got there though. Not to be confused with whining, crying and begging! I wonder if they have an outline of that?

 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: raildogg
stand firm? wtf?

she is doing a poor job as her state has reacted to this disaster like a third world country would, if not worse. the state, the country were not even aware of the potential even though the forecasters had said it was serious

but wait, since she is a Democrat, lets all forgive her and let her have a free pass :disgust:

she should be held accountable and so should the authorities in charge of emergency aid and relief.

the USA has reacted to this disaster worse than others countries, even countries much poorer than we. and we are supposed to be the world's richest country

not if you have been watching your tv lately
Oh, free pass because she's a Democrat? Hardly. I didn't know she was a Democrat until a couple of days ago.

BTW, check out this rough transcript of Mayor Nagin's conference late Thur.:
I mean to dictate and to manage military resources down here and I'll fix it for you. You call him right now and you call the governor and you tell them to deligate the power that they have to the mayor of New Orleans and we'll get this damn thing fixed.

It's politics man and they are playing games and they are spinning it. They are out there spinning for the cameras.

> But can't they just... If nothing else look at 25% of their energy coming from this state is not flowing through the pipelines. We are on the verge of anarchy. Can't they understand that if nothing else they are going to be hurt politically?

I don't know what they are doing. I mean the airconditioning must be good, because I haven't had any in 5 days. And maybe there's some smoke coming out of the airconditioning unit that is clogging some folks' vision.

> Have you talked to the president.

I've talked directly to the pResident. I've talked to the head of Homeland Security.

> What they say?

I've talked to everybody under the sun. I've been out there. I've flown these helicopters. Been in the crowds. Talking to people. Crying. Don't know where their relatives are. I've done it all, man!

And I'll tell you, man: I'll keep hearing that it is coming This is coming. That is coming. And my answer to that today is: BS! Where is the beef? There is no beef in this city. There is no beef anywhere in south-east Louisiana and these goddamned ships which are coming: I don't see them!

> What did you say to the pResident of the United States and what did he say to you?

I basically told him that we had an incredible crisis here and that him flying over it on AirForce One does not do it justice and that I have been all around this city and I am very frustrated because we are not able to master resources and we are outmaned in about every respect.

Do you know the reason why the looters got out of control? Because we had most of our resources saving people, 1000s of people that where stuck in attics, man. The old ladies. When you pull of the ventilator vents and look down there and standing there in water upto their fricking neck.

They don't have a clue what is going on down there. They flew down here. One time. Two days after the doggawn event was over with TV cameras, AP reports, all kinds of goddamn - excuse my French everybody in America, but I am pissed.

> Did you say to the pResident of the United States. I need the military in here?

I said I need everything. Now, We'll tell you this: I'll give the pResident some credit on this. He send one John Wayne dude down here that can get some stuff done and his name is General Armery(sp?) and he came of the doggawn chopper and he started cussing and people started moving and he is getting some stuff done. They are going to give that guy - don't give it to me - full authority to get the job done and we can safe some people.

> What do you need right now to get control of this situation?

I need reinforcements. I need troops, man. I need 500 buses, man and we are talking - one of the briefings we were talking about public school bus drivers and come down here and bus people.

I'm like you gotta be kidding me. This is a national disaster. Get every doggawn Greyhound busline in the country and get their asses moving to New Orleans. That's them thinking small, man and this a major, major, MAJOR deal. And I can't emphasise it enough, man. This is crazy

I've got 15-20,000 people over there at the Convention Center. It is bursting at the seems. The poor people in Tammany(?) Parish. They are airevacing people over here in New Orleans. We don't have anything and we are sharing with our brothers in Tammany Parish. It is awful down here.

> Do you believe that the pResident is seeing this and holding news conferences on this, but can't do anything until Kathlyn Blanco requested to do it and do you know whether or not she has made that request.

I have no idea what they are doing, but I will tell you this: You know God is looking down on all this and if they are not doing everything in their power to safe people they are going to pay the price. Because everyday that people delay, people are dying! And they are dying by the hunderds down there. I'm willing to bet ya.

We are getting reports and calls that are breaking my heart from people saying: I've been in my attic. I can't take it anymore. The water is upto my neck. I don't think I can hold out and that is happening as we speak.

And you know what really upsets me, G... (?)
We told everybody of the importance of the 17th Canal Street issue. We said please, please take care of this and we don't care what you do figure it out.

> Who did you say that to?

Everybody! Governor, Homeland Security, FEMA, you name it - we've said it and - you know - they've allowed that pumping station next to pumping station 6 to go under water. People to stay there and endanger their lives. And what happened was that when that pumping station went down, the water started flowing again into the city and it started to get to levels that probably killed more people.

In addition to that, we had water flowing through the pipes of this city. That's a powerstation over there. So there is no water flowing anymore on the East bank of New Orleans Parish. The critical water supply was destroyed, because of lack of action.

> Why couldn't they drop the 3000 pound sand bags or the containers that they were talking about earlier? Was it an enginering feat that just couldn't be done?

They said it was some pullies that they had to manufactor, but you know in a state of emergency you are crazy and you figure out ways to get stuff done. Then they told me that they went overnight and that they build 17 concrete structures and that they had the pullies on them and that we are going to drop them.

I flew over that thing yesterday and it is in the same shape that it was after the storm hit. There is nothing happening! And they are feeding the public a line of bull and it's spinning and people are dying down there

> If some of the public called and they are right. There is a law that the pResident, the federal government can't do anything without local or state request would you request Martial Law?

I've already called for martial law in the city of New Orleans. We did that a few days ago.

> Did the governor do that too?

I don't know. I don't think so. But we called for martial law when we realised that the looting was getting out of control and we directed all police officers to direct them to controlling the streets. They were dirty, dead tired from saving people, but they worked all night because we thought that this thing was going to blow wide open last night, so we redirected all of our resources and held it under check. I'm not sure whether we can do that another night with the current resources and I am telling you right now:

They are showing all these reports of people looting and doing all the weird stuff - and there are doing that - but people are desperate and they are trying to find food and water. The majority of them. And you've got some knuckleheads out there and they are taking advantage of this lawless, this situation where - you know - we can't really control it and they are doing some awful, awful things, but that's a small minority of the people.

Most of the people are looking to try and survive. And one of these things. Nobody talked about these things. Drugs flowing in and out of New Orleans and the surrounding metropolitan area so freely it was scary to me and that's why we had the escalation in Murrays. People don't want to talk about this, but I want to talk about this.

You had drug addicts that are now walking around this city looking for a fix and that's the reason why they were breaking in hospitals and drugstores. They are looking for something to take the edge off their Jones if you will and right now they don't have anything to take the edge off and they've probably found guns, so what you see is drugstarving, crazy addicts - drugaddicts that are reacking havoc and we don't have the manpower to deal with it. We can only target certain sections of the city and form a perimeter around them and hope to God that we are not overrun.

> Well you and I must be in the minority, because apparantly there is a section of our citizenry out there that thinks that because of a law that the Federal Government can't come unless requested by the proper people. That everything which is going on to this point has been done as good as it can possibly be.

Really??

> I know you don't really feel that way?

Well did the Tsunami victims request. Go through a formal process to send a request?
Did the Iraqi people request that we go in there? Did they ask us to go in there?

What is more important? This is - I tell you man - I'm probably going to get in a whole bunch of problem. I probably get in so much trouble it ain't even funny. They don't even want to deal with me after this interview is over.

> You and I will be in the funny place together.

But... we authorized 8(0) billion dollars to go to Iraq. After 9/11 we gave the pResident unprecedented powers to take of New York and other places. You mean to tell me where most of y'all is coming through. A place that is so unique. When you mention New Orleans all over the world, everybody's eyes light up. You mean to tell me that a place where you probably have 1000s of people that have died and 1000s more that are dying everyday - that we can't figure out a way to authorize the resources that we need?

C'mon man. I'm not one of the those drug addicts - I am thinking very clearly and I don't know whose problem it is. I don't know whether it is the governor's problem. I don't know whether it is the president's problem. But somebody needs to get their ass on the plane and sit down - the two of them - and figure this out right now!

> What can we do here.

Keep talking about it.

> We'll do that. What else can we do?

Organize people to write letters to their congressmen (email), to the president, to the governor. Flood their doggawn offices with requests to do something. This is ridiculous. I don't want to see anybody to anymore goddamn press conferences. Put a moratorium on press conferences. Don't do another press conference until the resources are in this city and then come down to the city and spend with us when there are military trucks and troops that we can't even count. Don't tell me 40,000 people are coming in. THEY ARE NOT HERE! It's too doggawn late! Get off your asses and let's do something and let's fix the biggest doggawn crisis in the history of this country

> I'll say it right now: You are the only politician that has called and called for arms like this and whatever it takes the governor, president, whatever law president it takes, whatever it takes, I'll bet that the people listening to you are on your side

Well, I hope so Garland. I am at the point now where it don't matter. People are dying. They don't have homes. They don't have jobs. The city of New Orleans will never be the same ... in this time ...

> That's mayor Nagin in an interview ...


Listen to it here:
http://www.libera.be/files/nagin.mp3


The Gov. has been more polite in her interviews today but feels much the same way. She asked for troops on Tuesday.

A mouthful full of whining liberal crap! Elect a Democrat and get a placeholder! He is the one that just sobered up on Burbon street and realized he was mayor as the winds built!

 
Originally posted by: TRUMPHENT
Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: conjur
In her press conference tonight:
"I have 2 issues to talk about.

#1 300 Arkansas guard troops just back from Iraq are now in New Orleans. They are under my orders to restore order immediately. They are armed with M15s and are trained to use them. They are battle tested. They will restore order. The people who are interfering with our attempt to help the people of New Orleans will no longer be tolerated. We are expecting the other troops that I have DEMANDED soon.

#2. Dennis Hastert said today that we should not rebuild New Orleans. I DEMAND an apology, and I DEMAND it immediately."

There ya go, Governor! Kick some ass, seabass. Order needs to be restored so the evacuations and rescues can proceed safely and the levee breach repairs completed.


Although, I earlier heard on WWL that the 17th St. canal breach should be repaired by tonight! 🙂

Wow! She finally comes out and makes a strong statement. Think how much better things would have been if she had done that earlier AND HAD FORMULATED A PLAN OTHER THAN TO WHINE BEFORE THE DISASTER!


You definitely have a firm grasp on something. It obviously isn't the situation.

Get a grip!

 
A city is destroyed and you heap the blame on the governor. Maybe you should look at why the levees were never strengthened and improved. Not even the goveror could change that in time.
 
Originally posted by: TRUMPHENT
A city is destroyed and you heap the blame on the governor. Maybe you should look at why the levees were never strengthened and improved. Not even the goveror could change that in time.

DS! Read! They were strengthened and improved at the cost of millions. Those were the ones that failed!

 
Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: TRUMPHENT
A city is destroyed and you heap the blame on the governor. Maybe you should look at why the levees were never strengthened and improved. Not even the goveror could change that in time.

DS! Read! They were strengthened and improved at the cost of millions. Those were the ones that failed!
Hey CS, what does DS mean?😉

 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: TRUMPHENT
A city is destroyed and you heap the blame on the governor. Maybe you should look at why the levees were never strengthened and improved. Not even the goveror could change that in time.

DS! Read! They were strengthened and improved at the cost of millions. Those were the ones that failed!
Hey CS, what does DS mean?😉

Dumb Sh[t! TFANFFADDA!

 
Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: rickn
new orleans needs to be rebuilt, but they need to overhaul the levee system. most of it hasn't been touched since the 1960's

Funny you should mention that. It turns out that the leeves that failed are the ones that benefited from the 430 million dollars of liberal funds and had been rebuilt. Unfortunately, it appears to have been of little effect. No amount of money could have prevented this. A good disaster management plan in the city and state governments could have held things together until the Feds got there though. Not to be confused with whining, crying and begging! I wonder if they have an outline of that?

Winnar!

Let's put everyone in the Superdome.

But, its great that the governor has finally started to take charge.
 
Originally posted by: DS Condor
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: DS Condor
Originally posted by: TRUMPHENT
A city is destroyed and you heap the blame on the governor. Maybe you should look at why the levees were never strengthened and improved. Not even the goveror could change that in time.

DS! Read! They were strengthened and improved at the cost of millions. Those were the ones that failed!
Hey CS, what does DS mean?😉
OK, thanks for the clarification!
Dumb Sh[t! TFANFFADDA!

 
Going back a ways, New Orleans shouldn't be rebuilt. Not as a major city anyway. Keep the tourist quarter, and enough to support the port thats it.

ANyway it won't be up to the governor. Businesses will not want to put major operations there, which means no work. Granted New Orleans was a poor city, but even those who live paycheck to paycheck will move to find work.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: tcsenter
Oh...so on the side with forest fires and mudslides.
Nope, I'm in the central valley. The only thing we have to worry about here are mosquitos.
Oh really?
One more for good measure.
Short memory?

So, so far, we've got earthquakes, fires, mudslides, floods...christ, this state is a regular hellhole!
Good thing not everybody from New York is as ignorant as you. CA is almost the size of the Eastern Seaboard. If you compare all the natural disasters that hapeen yearly on the whole Eastern Seaboard with those that happen in CA you'd realize that CA isn't any more disaster prone than the Eastern Seaboard. In fact on a yearly basis there are more natural disasters on the Eastern Seaboard, especially in the southern portion of it.
I was being facetious, Red, I thought you of all people would recognize that. My point is, ts was dealing in generalizations and I fired back with some. Natural disasters happen everywhere.

Would we have armchair engineers like this if LA or SF was reduced to rubble by "the big one?"
 
Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: tcsenter
Oh...so on the side with forest fires and mudslides.
Nope, I'm in the central valley. The only thing we have to worry about here are mosquitos.
Oh really?

So, so far, we've got earthquakes, fires, mudslides, floods...christ, this state is a regular hellhole!
Living in CA does not automatically mean that you are within a stone's throw of all those hazards. There are expansive areas of the state where NONE of those things are a risk, in which I happen to live, just like in LA there are expansive areas of the state that are not built into a bowl on a marsh surrounded by water on three sides.
 
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