Got my Volcano seized

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: McCartney
And it wasn't in public.
That's why I got a "trespassing" becuase it was on the side of some dirt road with all the windows rolled up in my friends' suv... I don't get why you guys choose to use your own moral compasses to persecute me.
I'm not a bad person because I choose to smoke marijuana.
I do not smoke it every day for the record, I do it on the weekend. Why did I buy the device? Because I don't want to inhale smoke and hurt my body.
You can argue about THC and how it "hurts your body" but I'm not here to argue positions on the use of a drug and its active compound. I am just trying to make safer decisions. If buying a 700 dollar machine ensures that no carbon monoxide/dioxide is in my lungs, like it is with smoking joints (I didn't smoke the joint), then I will buy it. It's a safer alternative.

Did you read any of my replies or are you just choosing to continue being ignorant on the subject?

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: McCartney
And it wasn't in public.
That's why I got a "trespassing" becuase it was on the side of some dirt road with all the windows rolled up in my friends' suv... I don't get why you guys choose to use your own moral compasses to persecute me.
I'm not a bad person because I choose to smoke marijuana.
I do not smoke it every day for the record, I do it on the weekend. Why did I buy the device? Because I don't want to inhale smoke and hurt my body.
You can argue about THC and how it "hurts your body" but I'm not here to argue positions on the use of a drug and its active compound. I am just trying to make safer decisions. If buying a 700 dollar machine ensures that no carbon monoxide/dioxide is in my lungs, like it is with smoking joints (I didn't smoke the joint), then I will buy it. It's a safer alternative.

I don't care if you smoke pot or not. Legal or not, it's no more harmful then alcohol in my opinion which is socially acceptable to abuse.

That being said, you are being a fucking moron in this thread.

 

[McCartney]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: McCartney
It is hilarious how you're involving a moral or social compass.
I'm trying to find a legal compass.

A legal compass for what? If the cop seized your property, he had a reason for it. THE LAW.

Originally posted by: McCartney
You're confused again Mrvile, it's not illegal to own or use marijuana.
You do get a small fine, usually they give you a warning and put it away.

Are you sure the cop took the vaporizer?

Originally posted by: McCartney
This is a clear case of an officer doing what he wants.

No, this is a clear case of an officer doing what he is allowed to do.

He took it and he had no reason to take it.
He said that I used it to smoke marijuana yet at the scene there was no display of use.
Yes a bag was filled up but it hadn't been used and the seal was still on.
It's all circumstantial as far as I'm concerned. If they saw us inhale from the bag I'd say different. THey stabbed the bag and smelt the air and said we were "using it" to get high and thus it's an accessory yet the only reason the car smelled was because my friends were smoking joints in his car and the smell of the bag after it was stabbed obviously added odor.
They were young guys that really were nice, exception of one who kept trying to get aggresive for no reason.
All I want is my vaporizer. They can keep the bags, filling chamber and I can buy all that stuff again since the actual vaporizer has NO residue on it since it clips onto the chamber and heats the CHAMBER! the Chamber then disperses the heated marijuana air into a vacuum sealed bag.

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Whatever helps you sleep at night pal. I don't think marijuana is that bad, but I DO think you're a friggin fool if you think you didn't deserve to get your stuff confiscated. I know for a FACT that you will not be getting your stuff back, because it's your word against the cop. And since they caught you smoking red handed, your word won't mean a damn thing. Cram that in your volcano and smoke it... oh wait... YOU CAN'T! AHAHAHAHA! roflcopter

lol... That is cold.

And marijuana was decriminalized? I remember there being a firestorm a few years back when Chretien said he'd "light up a joint" if it became decriminalized...

Forget it, I read ahead a bit and another poster already linked a source.

 

[McCartney]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: McCartney
No.
It's being struckdown everywhere:
http://www.thepotlawhasfallen.ca/

cases are falling left and right. Simple google news searches prove this too.

Yeah, the actual illegality of it was struck down, than a token gesture to the states of "its still illegal" was installed before GWB has a heart attack. You get either a) tickets or b) destruction of the marijuana (stomp and roll it out on the curb) and destruction of paraphernalia. If your going to smoke pot in public, do it with something you don't mind loosing, save the expensive shit for in home.

I get your post.
I agree with it, and from this lesson I'd never take my volcano in a car again.
BUT you cannot do both, give a ticket and keep the weed.
That's what they did. They gave us a petty trespassing ticket, kept the weed and my vaporizer.
I could understand one OR the other.
Not both though. I'm not complaining, gimme a weed ticket or ticket in general and keep the weed. Don't take my machine that has more than one use. This thing isn't just to smoke weed. I know I was using it for that, but I also think that there are alot of people who use it for other stuff.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: McCartney
I do not smoke it every day for the record, I do it on the weekend. Why did I buy the device? Because I don't want to inhale smoke and hurt my body.
You can argue about THC and how it "hurts your body" but I'm not here to argue positions on the use of a drug and its active compound. I am just trying to make safer decisions. If buying a 700 dollar machine ensures that no carbon monoxide/dioxide is in my lungs, like it is with smoking joints (I didn't smoke the joint), then I will buy it. It's a safer alternative.

1) I'd imagine that there are cheaper devices somewhere.
2) Seems like you were using it for something other than "medical" use. Back when I was on Celexa, taking it wasn't considered a social activity.

And bad news, you're going to get carbon dioxide in your lungs every time you breathe. I don't know how much carbon monoxide is produced though. Based on the small quantity of material burned, I wouldn't expect it to be very much.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: McCartney

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: McCartney
No.
It's being struckdown everywhere:
http://www.thepotlawhasfallen.ca/

cases are falling left and right. Simple google news searches prove this too.

Yeah, the actual illegality of it was struck down, than a token gesture to the states of "its still illegal" was installed before GWB has a heart attack. You get either a) tickets or b) destruction of the marijuana (stomp and roll it out on the curb) and destruction of paraphernalia. If your going to smoke pot in public, do it with something you don't mind loosing, save the expensive shit for in home.

I get your post.
I agree with it, and from this lesson I'd never take my volcano in a car again.
BUT you cannot do both, give a ticket and keep the weed.
That's what they did. They gave us a petty trespassing ticket, kept the weed and my vaporizer.
I could understand one OR the other.
Not both though. I'm not complaining, gimme a weed ticket or ticket in general and keep the weed. Don't take my machine that has more than one use. This thing isn't just to smoke weed. I know I was using it for that, but I also think that there are alot of people who use it for other stuff.

Yes the can. The law is Ticket and seizure. It use to be Seizure, arrest, charges, record. All they did was replace arrest, charges, record with a ticket. It would be like me saying "Don't take my bottle bong, I use that as a cup too!" It doesn't matter, it was used in the process of an "illegal" crime since pot is still technically illegal.

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: McCartney

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: McCartney
No.
It's being struckdown everywhere:
http://www.thepotlawhasfallen.ca/

cases are falling left and right. Simple google news searches prove this too.

Yeah, the actual illegality of it was struck down, than a token gesture to the states of "its still illegal" was installed before GWB has a heart attack. You get either a) tickets or b) destruction of the marijuana (stomp and roll it out on the curb) and destruction of paraphernalia. If your going to smoke pot in public, do it with something you don't mind loosing, save the expensive shit for in home.

I get your post.
I agree with it, and from this lesson I'd never take my volcano in a car again.
BUT you cannot do both, give a ticket and keep the weed.
That's what they did. They gave us a petty trespassing ticket, kept the weed and my vaporizer.
I could understand one OR the other.
Not both though. I'm not complaining, gimme a weed ticket or ticket in general and keep the weed. Don't take my machine that has more than one use. This thing isn't just to smoke weed. I know I was using it for that, but I also think that there are alot of people who use it for other stuff.

Maybe you should have just been using it for the other stuff and not using it to smoke weed. :laugh:

 

[theGlove]

what if the driver got high, started driving and killed a family of 4 with 2 children. How are you going to get back that family's lives?

 

[McCartney]

Man a bong has a clear use and application of marijuana. Society perceives the use of the bong that way.
A vaporizer on the other hand can be used for a variety of things.
Yes I used it to smoke marijuana. But that doesn't change the fact these cops lied and said there is no way I can get it back.
Why would they have to say that if they knew there was legal proceedings that would protected them?
I think they know as well as I do if I show up in court and give a legitimate reason that I'll get it back.
There are alot of cops who think what they're doing is right, but that doesn't explain the acquittals and release of seized paraphernalia.

 

[Scouzer]

Ugh I am embarrassed to be from Edmonton as well. You are a moron for actively pissing off MP's, you were extremely lucky to get off so light in the first place. You could have been charged with much more.

The military will not give you your drug crap back. Get a new habit.

Oh, and if it was MP's who ticketed you, you WERE on private property (military base) and therefore trespassing. Nice job, idiot.

 

[preslove]

Who the fuck uses a vaporizer in a car?

Some people are too stupid to use drugs correctly.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: McCartney
Man a bong has a clear use and application of marijuana. Society perceives the use of the bong that way.
A vaporizer on the other hand can be used for a variety of things.
Yes I used it to smoke marijuana. But that doesn't change the fact these cops lied and said there is no way I can get it back.
Why would they have to say that if they knew there was legal proceedings that would protected them?
I think they know as well as I do if I show up in court and give a legitimate reason that I'll get it back.
There are alot of cops who think what they're doing is right, but that doesn't explain the acquittals and release of seized paraphernalia.

So you would rather be charged with a crime and have a chance at getting your shit back, but also have a chance at a conviction (which you will get since you had a bag of pot on you)? Your an idiot, you should stop smoking before it gets worse

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: McCartney
Man a bong has a clear use and application of marijuana. Society perceives the use of the bong that way.
A vaporizer on the other hand can be used for a variety of things.
Yes I used it to smoke marijuana. But that doesn't change the fact these cops lied and said there is no way I can get it back.
Why would they have to say that if they knew there was legal proceedings that would protected them?
I think they know as well as I do if I show up in court and give a legitimate reason that I'll get it back.
There are alot of cops who think what they're doing is right, but that doesn't explain the acquittals and release of seized paraphernalia.

Then WHAT THE **** are you doing here bitching about it?!? You obviously know the law better than the court systems since you can gaurantee that the cops lied and you would have no problem getting it back. Go file a lawsuit and defend yourself. You can't possibly lose. :roll:

 

[McCartney]

They have no choice but to.
I just realized I wasn't even on their property.
I was in North Namao, and I was actually on the opposite side of the road that wasn't their property, actually
Because the side of the road we were on had houses behind us, but on the other side of the road had a fence saying "No trespassing" with the Canada flag.
So obviously they gave me a ticket in Edmonton's Jurisdiction if I'm not mistaken, since they have no jurisdiction over Canada and must handle my situation over to Edmonton.

I know that the road they patrol is the border of Edmonton and Garrison so if we're on the Edmonton side doesn't that mean that they overstepped their boundaries?

 

[KLin]

Holy crap I missed the part where it was Military Police. OP should be thanking his lucky stars they didn't shoot him!!

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: McCartney
They have no choice but to.
I just realized I wasn't even on their property.
I was in North Namao, and I was actually on the opposite side of the road that wasn't their property, actually
Because the side of the road we were on had houses behind us, but on the other side of the road had a fence saying "No trespassing" with the Canada flag.
So obviously they gave me a ticket in Edmonton's Jurisdiction if I'm not mistaken, since they have no jurisdiction over Canada and must handle my situation over to Edmonton.

I know that the road they patrol is the border of Edmonton and Garrison so if we're on the Edmonton side doesn't that mean that they overstepped their boundaries?

Than call them up and get your shit back, goodluck :laugh:

 

[McCartney]

I won't lose, I'm just seeing what other Canadian law legal beavers know.
I am going to spend the money and I would take the charge.
I am going to show these cops that charging and seizing equipment "because you can" isn't the right attitude to take.
While I respect your guys' opinions on my state of mind at the time, one officer even said "This is one of the most elaborate operations I've ever seeN'.

Why would he say that? Is he enthused to walk back to the office seizing my stuff and tell his friends about how he made us line up behind the vehicle as if we were robbers?

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: McCartney
I won't lose, I'm just seeing what other Canadian law legal beavers know.
I am going to spend the money and I would take the charge.
I am going to show these cops that charging and seizing equipment "because you can" isn't the right attitude to take.
While I respect your guys' opinions on my state of mind at the time, one officer even said "This is one of the most elaborate operations I've ever seeN'.

Why would he say that? Is he enthused to walk back to the office seizing my stuff and tell his friends about how he made us line up behind the vehicle as if we were robbers?

How old are you? Serious question because you obviously don't remember the time before decriminalization. You also have some sort of entitlement to the fact you should be able to smoke pot in a cops face with no repercussions.

 

[KLin]

http://www.cannabisfacts.ca/#five

FYI, Possesion of marijuana has not been decriminalized. You lose, do not pass go, do not collect $200 dollars eh.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: gorcorps
Whatever helps you sleep at night pal. I don't think marijuana is that bad, but I DO think you're a friggin fool if you think you didn't deserve to get your stuff confiscated. I know for a FACT that you will not be getting your stuff back, because it's your word against the cop. And since they caught you smoking red handed, your word won't mean a damn thing. Cram that in your volcano and smoke it... oh wait... YOU CAN'T! AHAHAHAHA! roflcopter

bwhahahahahahahah

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: KLin
http://www.cannabisfacts.ca/#five

FYI, Possesion of marijuana has not been decriminalized. You lose, do not pass go, do not collect the $700 bong back eh.

/fixed

 

[angry hampster]

This thread is fantastic :laugh:

 

[Scouzer]

Originally posted by: McCartney
They have no choice but to.
I just realized I wasn't even on their property.
I was in North Namao, and I was actually on the opposite side of the road that wasn't their property, actually
Because the side of the road we were on had houses behind us, but on the other side of the road had a fence saying "No trespassing" with the Canada flag.
So obviously they gave me a ticket in Edmonton's Jurisdiction if I'm not mistaken, since they have no jurisdiction over Canada and must handle my situation over to Edmonton.

I know that the road they patrol is the border of Edmonton and Garrison so if we're on the Edmonton side doesn't that mean that they overstepped their boundaries?

Incorrect. MP's have universal jurisdiction. They just normally don't apply it.

You are not getting your stuff back. You will be charged to the full extent of the law if you don't drop this crap.

 

[Gothgar]

Zane?