Got my new toy!

episodic

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I know some of you all are all rich n stuff, but I got my new camera a Fuji S5200 for $299. . .

I have not used it but indoors tonight, but it is extremely fast, very dslr like, excellent low light (why I bought it), and 10x zoom. . .

I'm happy.
 

Mrvile

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Originally posted by: PHiuR
Originally posted by: Mrvile
But ISO 1600 on a P&S = pure ownage.

pure ownage as in image quality is owned?

Pure ownage as in lots of noise. It might be better than most, but P&S ISO will never match a DSLR's.

episodic have fun with your new camera anyway. Congrats.
 

episodic

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Actually that is what is special with this cam - the ISO 1600 is actually usable. . . anyway ISO 800 is excellent.
 

HarvInSTL

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So how do you like it?
Looks like a welcomed upgrade from my S5100.

Where did you get it for $299?
 

PHiuR

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Originally posted by: Mrvile
Originally posted by: PHiuR
Originally posted by: Mrvile
But ISO 1600 on a P&S = pure ownage.

pure ownage as in image quality is owned?

Pure ownage as in lots of noise. It might be better than most, but P&S ISO will never match a DSLR's.

episodic have fun with your new camera anyway. Congrats.

I prefer film grain to digital noise....Ilford Delta 3200 FTW!
 

PHiuR

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Originally posted by: ProviaFan
I prefer Nikon D1 noise to most P&S noise, and I also prefer D200 noise to D1 noise. :D

bah...grain and noise look different at least :p
 

jpeyton

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Great review here.

I'm an F10 owner, and Fuji's ISO performance blows away all other P&S digicams on the market.

Of course, any good DSLR on its worst day will beat a Fuji P&S at its best in ISO performance...but that's apples to oranges.
 

destrekor

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i like my nikon n65 :D
yes, im a 'photo-nub', and cant afford the F-series, and dont want a dslr... gotta learn with film :)
 

ProviaFan

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Originally posted by: PHiuR
Originally posted by: ProviaFan
I prefer Nikon D1 noise to most P&S noise, and I also prefer D200 noise to D1 noise. :D
bah...grain and noise look different at least :p
Sort of, but that depends on the kind of noise. Luminance noise is closer to grain (often called more "film-like"), while chrominance noise - blotchy patches of random colors - is nothing like it. Of course, while I don't mind a bit of the former in my images (and even add it after rezzing up for printing), I really hate the latter. ;)
 

Mrvile

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Originally posted by: ProviaFan
I prefer Nikon D1 noise to most P&S noise, and I also prefer D200 noise to D1 noise. :D

My 350D noise owns all your noise ;)
 

ProviaFan

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Originally posted by: Mrvile
Originally posted by: ProviaFan
I prefer Nikon D1 noise to most P&S noise, and I also prefer D200 noise to D1 noise. :D
My 350D noise owns all your noise ;)
My D200 owns your...

...no, seriously, do we need an e-penis battle over cameras? You started it, but I'm going to take the high ground and not continue the argument.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: ProviaFan
Originally posted by: Mrvile
Originally posted by: ProviaFan
I prefer Nikon D1 noise to most P&S noise, and I also prefer D200 noise to D1 noise. :D
My 350D noise owns all your noise ;)
My D200 owns your...

...no, seriously, do we need an e-penis battle over cameras? You started it, but I'm going to take the high ground and not continue the argument.

i can settle it and claim my n65's noise > than all dslr noise :D

;) just messin, but really... its trivial to argue about digital noise.. clearly adding noise to a digital file is going to deteriorate the quality. photography is an art form, and whenever the aim is to create art with high-iso's with large amounts of filmgrain, the only, and obvious answer is to use a film camera. digital is for professionals who desire quality and ease of use, not to mention the ability to view the outcome and be able to adjust on the spot, instead of 'guessing'. but as an art, film is still and likely will be, for some time, the ultimate choice for art purposes.
 

PHiuR

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: ProviaFan
Originally posted by: Mrvile
Originally posted by: ProviaFan
I prefer Nikon D1 noise to most P&S noise, and I also prefer D200 noise to D1 noise. :D
My 350D noise owns all your noise ;)
My D200 owns your...

...no, seriously, do we need an e-penis battle over cameras? You started it, but I'm going to take the high ground and not continue the argument.

i can settle it and claim my n65's noise > than all dslr noise :D

;) just messin, but really... its trivial to argue about digital noise.. clearly adding noise to a digital file is going to deteriorate the quality. photography is an art form, and whenever the aim is to create art with high-iso's with large amounts of filmgrain, the only, and obvious answer is to use a film camera. digital is for professionals who desire quality and ease of use, not to mention the ability to view the outcome and be able to adjust on the spot, instead of 'guessing'. but as an art, film is still and likely will be, for some time, the ultimate choice for art purposes.

uhh...photography is as much of an art form digital wise as it is film wise...
stating that film is better for art purposes is just misinforming people.
I had to take this picture for my film body. But i decided to throw my dslr onto the tripod to take a few shots because I wanted to see how it would come out. I set this shot up and also metered for my film body. (which is the same for both)

Both film and digital will look the same. here
 

amol

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Originally posted by: Mrvile
Originally posted by: PHiuR
Originally posted by: Mrvile
But ISO 1600 on a P&S = pure ownage.

pure ownage as in image quality is owned?

Pure ownage as in lots of noise. It might be better than most, but P&S ISO will never match a DSLR's.

episodic have fun with your new camera anyway. Congrats.

ISO 1600 is pretty good on my 350D. I take lots of pictures at night for my school's yearbook and they come out great in print.

We even got Noise Ninja, but we havn't had to use it yet.
 

ProviaFan

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Originally posted by: destrekor
...but as an art, film is still and likely will be, for some time, the ultimate choice for art purposes.
If the process of shooting film helps you to make better art, there are no problems with that. However, to pose the statement you just made in a general context is the most ridiculous and nonsensical thing that could be said (as evidenced by the large number of professionals and amateurs who created excellent art on film, and then successfully switched to creating excellent art with a digital camera).
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: ProviaFan
Originally posted by: destrekor
...but as an art, film is still and likely will be, for some time, the ultimate choice for art purposes.
If the process of shooting film helps you to make better art, there are no problems with that. However, to pose the statement you just made in a general context is the most ridiculous and nonsensical thing that could be said (as evidenced by the large number of professionals and amateurs who created excellent art on film, and then successfully switched to creating excellent art with a digital camera).

okay maybe i was wrong, but i still view it as a better medium to learn the photography trade on. master the skills of photography as an artform on film, and then move to digital.
 

Ornery

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What a bunch of wieners. If that's not $300 worth of equipment, I'll eat it! Let Mike know about that deal.