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Eeezee

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Jul 23, 2005
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Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: AdamK47
Pay for your PC games! It's not that hard to find everyting on Amazon or eBay are a reasonable price. I've gotten all of these legally that way. As you can imagine, I despise people who steal from the developers who made all these great games.

Uh, you DO realize that when you buy something off of ebay none of your money goes back to the developers right?

Most of these people will claim to have never used a VCR, either (or more 80s-appropriate, have never made a mix tape)
 

frostedflakes

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Mar 1, 2005
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Originally posted by: Eeezee
Maybe try IRC? If you know what you're doing it can be better than any public bit torrent site

Cox has a 3 strike rule, I got up to 2 before I moved anyway :p On the third strike they completely disable your account supposedly.
Or Rapidshare, Megaupload, etc. Until ISPs start monitoring all internet activity for copyright infringement or copyright owners subpoena download logs from these sites (neither of which will probably happen anytime soon, if ever), they won't catch you. It's just too easy to be caught with P2P, because anti-piracy groups can host a file and easily obtain the IP of anybody who connects to them to download the file.

I do my fair share of pirating. I also buy a good amount of music, movies, etc. (or at least as much as a college student can afford to buy). I try to buy new as well, so money is going to the artist, developers, etc. It just depends on how much I like it, for example an album I only somewhat liked and would rather not spend $15 on, I may grab used for $7 or whatever. Except in the case of RIAA affiliated labels, I always buy used so as *not* to support them (not a huge fan of the RIAA). I'm not going to try to justify downloading, no matter how you look at it, it's illegal. But I will say that most of the stuff I download and enjoy, I try to buy eventually. The stuff I download and don't end up liking, I delete. For me, it's a way of previewing content. There are, of course, usually legal options (movie rentals, stuff like that), but digital distribution is free and very convenient.

Another example is anime, I'll download fansubs so I don't have to wait a few years for a series to be released in the US. Every year I'll try to buy a few of my favorite series, but at $100+ for some box sets, I can't afford much more than that. Fortunately, the NA industry is starting to adapt to user demands (RIAA should take note of this). Bandai, for example, is going to start releasing subtitled episodes on DVD ahead of the English dub release. This is a step in the right direction IMO. Anime industry could learn a lot from the fansubbers. If legal downloads were released in the same time frame (few days to a week or so after Japanese airing), in comparable quality, and at a reasonable price ($1-2 per episode), I would be all over that.
 

coldmeat

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Jul 10, 2007
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I caught caught a couple of times last semester for downloading movies. Both NBC and Paramount sent the school emails. They didn't do anything though, they just told me to stop.
 

gamepad

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Jul 28, 2005
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They should just enforce a zero tolerance death penalty for piracy. I bet 99% of people would stop.
 

Quiksilver

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Jul 3, 2005
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Originally posted by: BlackTigers91
Originally posted by: gamepad
They should just enforce a zero tolerance death penalty for piracy. I bet 99% of people would stop.

dotdotdot

Eff that, I'd continue until the prices of drop down considerably and all profits go directly the the artists.

In any case, you had it coming..
http://www.azureuswiki.com/ind...ited_States_of_America

My ISP isn't on the list and they don't seem to care about piracy either lolz.
 

yhelothar

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Dec 11, 2002
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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: BoomerD
I rejoice when I hear stories like this...another fucking thief caught!

I'm waiting for these kinds of things to be moved from civil offenses to criminal offenses...and carry felony charges.

Stealing is stealing.
You want someone who downloads an mp3 to be convicted as a felon? :confused:
If you save a copyrighted picture on the Internet onto your computer, you have committed a crime.

are pictures from pay porn sites copyrighted?
 

Praxis1452

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Jan 31, 2006
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Originally posted by: gamepad
They should just enforce a zero tolerance death penalty for piracy. I bet 99% of people would stop.

That's a great idea. They should do it for drunk-drivers and drug addicts and speeding. Hell, why not just execute everyone who commits a crime: then noone will commit any. :disgust:

 

frostedflakes

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Mar 1, 2005
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Originally posted by: astroidea
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: BoomerD
I rejoice when I hear stories like this...another fucking thief caught!

I'm waiting for these kinds of things to be moved from civil offenses to criminal offenses...and carry felony charges.

Stealing is stealing.
You want someone who downloads an mp3 to be convicted as a felon? :confused:
If you save a copyrighted picture on the Internet onto your computer, you have committed a crime.

are pictures from pay porn sites copyrighted?
Yup. I doubt anybody cares if you save them, post them, or whatever, but technically it's probably copyright infringement. What constitutes fair use of the pictures is probably explained the site's membership agreement.
 

Canai

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Oct 4, 2006
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Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: Eeezee
Maybe try IRC? If you know what you're doing it can be better than any public bit torrent site

Cox has a 3 strike rule, I got up to 2 before I moved anyway :p On the third strike they completely disable your account supposedly.
Or Rapidshare, Megaupload, etc. Until ISPs start monitoring all internet activity for copyright infringement or copyright owners subpoena download logs from these sites (neither of which will probably happen anytime soon, if ever), they won't catch you. It's just too easy to be caught with P2P, because anti-piracy groups can host a file and easily obtain the IP of anybody who connects to them to download the file.

I do my fair share of pirating. I also buy a good amount of music, movies, etc. (or at least as much as a college student can afford to buy). I try to buy new as well, so money is going to the artist, developers, etc. It just depends on how much I like it, for example an album I only somewhat liked and would rather not spend $15 on, I may grab used for $7 or whatever. Except in the case of RIAA affiliated labels, I always buy used so as *not* to support them (not a huge fan of the RIAA). I'm not going to try to justify downloading, no matter how you look at it, it's illegal. But I will say that most of the stuff I download and enjoy, I try to buy eventually. The stuff I download and don't end up liking, I delete. For me, it's a way of previewing content. There are, of course, usually legal options (movie rentals, stuff like that), but digital distribution is free and very convenient.

Another example is anime, I'll download fansubs so I don't have to wait a few years for a series to be released in the US. Every year I'll try to buy a few of my favorite series, but at $100+ for some box sets, I can't afford much more than that. Fortunately, the NA industry is starting to adapt to user demands (RIAA should take note of this). Bandai, for example, is going to start releasing subtitled episodes on DVD ahead of the English dub release. This is a step in the right direction IMO. Anime industry could learn a lot from the fansubbers. If legal downloads were released in the same time frame (few days to a week or so after Japanese airing), in comparable quality, and at a reasonable price ($1-2 per episode), I would be all over that.

I rapidshare more than I torrent now. Fast, no peers, manager can take care of large numbers of files at once, and on 0day stuff it's MUCH faster than waiting for the second seeder.

Bottom line is that piracy is NOT going to go away any time soon. Media companies need to learn to deal with it.

When sites like hulu and veoh came along, my torrenting of TV shows dropped to 0. When other digital follows suit, I'll stop pirating anything.
 

yhelothar

Lifer
Dec 11, 2002
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Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: astroidea
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: BoomerD
I rejoice when I hear stories like this...another fucking thief caught!

I'm waiting for these kinds of things to be moved from civil offenses to criminal offenses...and carry felony charges.

Stealing is stealing.
You want someone who downloads an mp3 to be convicted as a felon? :confused:
If you save a copyrighted picture on the Internet onto your computer, you have committed a crime.

are pictures from pay porn sites copyrighted?
Yup. I doubt anybody cares if you save them, post them, or whatever, but technically it's probably copyright infringement. What constitutes fair use of the pictures is probably explained the site's membership agreement.

I'm asking because it does say it's copyrighted, but sites usually give you options to save entire image sets at a time.
Why would they give you the option to do something illegal?
:confused:
I highly doubt saving copyrighted images are illegal.
 

frostedflakes

Diamond Member
Mar 1, 2005
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Originally posted by: astroidea
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: astroidea
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: BoomerD
I rejoice when I hear stories like this...another fucking thief caught!

I'm waiting for these kinds of things to be moved from civil offenses to criminal offenses...and carry felony charges.

Stealing is stealing.
You want someone who downloads an mp3 to be convicted as a felon? :confused:
If you save a copyrighted picture on the Internet onto your computer, you have committed a crime.

are pictures from pay porn sites copyrighted?
Yup. I doubt anybody cares if you save them, post them, or whatever, but technically it's probably copyright infringement. What constitutes fair use of the pictures is probably explained the site's membership agreement.

I'm asking because it does say it's copyrighted, but sites usually give you options to save entire image sets at a time.
Why would they give you the option to do something illegal?
:confused:
I highly doubt saving copyrighted images are illegal.
1f they give you permission it's all good. Copyright infringement is *unauthorized* copying. And then there's a lot of stuff that is technically unauthorized copying, but falls under fair use IMO (such as ripping songs from a CD to your iPod, ripping DVDs onto an HTPC, etc.). And even stuff that falls under fair use can technically be illegal (under DCMA) if doing so circumvents copyright protection schemes. An example of this would be circumventing macrovision for DVD movies.
 

frostedflakes

Diamond Member
Mar 1, 2005
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Originally posted by: Canai
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: Eeezee
Maybe try IRC? If you know what you're doing it can be better than any public bit torrent site

Cox has a 3 strike rule, I got up to 2 before I moved anyway :p On the third strike they completely disable your account supposedly.
Or Rapidshare, Megaupload, etc. Until ISPs start monitoring all internet activity for copyright infringement or copyright owners subpoena download logs from these sites (neither of which will probably happen anytime soon, if ever), they won't catch you. It's just too easy to be caught with P2P, because anti-piracy groups can host a file and easily obtain the IP of anybody who connects to them to download the file.

I do my fair share of pirating. I also buy a good amount of music, movies, etc. (or at least as much as a college student can afford to buy). I try to buy new as well, so money is going to the artist, developers, etc. It just depends on how much I like it, for example an album I only somewhat liked and would rather not spend $15 on, I may grab used for $7 or whatever. Except in the case of RIAA affiliated labels, I always buy used so as *not* to support them (not a huge fan of the RIAA). I'm not going to try to justify downloading, no matter how you look at it, it's illegal. But I will say that most of the stuff I download and enjoy, I try to buy eventually. The stuff I download and don't end up liking, I delete. For me, it's a way of previewing content. There are, of course, usually legal options (movie rentals, stuff like that), but digital distribution is free and very convenient.

Another example is anime, I'll download fansubs so I don't have to wait a few years for a series to be released in the US. Every year I'll try to buy a few of my favorite series, but at $100+ for some box sets, I can't afford much more than that. Fortunately, the NA industry is starting to adapt to user demands (RIAA should take note of this). Bandai, for example, is going to start releasing subtitled episodes on DVD ahead of the English dub release. This is a step in the right direction IMO. Anime industry could learn a lot from the fansubbers. If legal downloads were released in the same time frame (few days to a week or so after Japanese airing), in comparable quality, and at a reasonable price ($1-2 per episode), I would be all over that.

I rapidshare more than I torrent now. Fast, no peers, manager can take care of large numbers of files at once, and on 0day stuff it's MUCH faster than waiting for the second seeder.

Bottom line is that piracy is NOT going to go away any time soon. Media companies need to learn to deal with it.

When sites like hulu and veoh came along, my torrenting of TV shows dropped to 0. When other digital follows suit, I'll stop pirating anything.
What I don't understand is why copyright holders don't just accept that piracy is going to happen no matter how many legal threats they make, and try to make the best of things. Why don't they just start offering streaming shows for free and help subsidize the cost with built-in advertising. Or they could just use existing infrastructure (i.e. YouTube, Veoh, etc.) and not have any bandwidth costs. Even if this isn't very profitable, at least they'd be making more money than if people just streaming pirated versions of their shows. People will still buy the DVDs, as the higher quality video, extra content, box art, etc. is worth it to some.

I think the free w/optional donation system would work very well for some media as well.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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The RopeADope owns J00!

seriously don't pirate stuff, there is enough free games out there to keep anyone busy if they look hard enough.

It may not be GTA4, but you got to pay to play.

 

PieIsAwesome

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Feb 11, 2007
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Heh, this reminds me, I met a few game developers/artists who've admitted they pirated stuff.
 

Eeezee

Diamond Member
Jul 23, 2005
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Originally posted by: Canai
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: Eeezee
Maybe try IRC? If you know what you're doing it can be better than any public bit torrent site

Cox has a 3 strike rule, I got up to 2 before I moved anyway :p On the third strike they completely disable your account supposedly.
Or Rapidshare, Megaupload, etc. Until ISPs start monitoring all internet activity for copyright infringement or copyright owners subpoena download logs from these sites (neither of which will probably happen anytime soon, if ever), they won't catch you. It's just too easy to be caught with P2P, because anti-piracy groups can host a file and easily obtain the IP of anybody who connects to them to download the file.

I do my fair share of pirating. I also buy a good amount of music, movies, etc. (or at least as much as a college student can afford to buy). I try to buy new as well, so money is going to the artist, developers, etc. It just depends on how much I like it, for example an album I only somewhat liked and would rather not spend $15 on, I may grab used for $7 or whatever. Except in the case of RIAA affiliated labels, I always buy used so as *not* to support them (not a huge fan of the RIAA). I'm not going to try to justify downloading, no matter how you look at it, it's illegal. But I will say that most of the stuff I download and enjoy, I try to buy eventually. The stuff I download and don't end up liking, I delete. For me, it's a way of previewing content. There are, of course, usually legal options (movie rentals, stuff like that), but digital distribution is free and very convenient.

Another example is anime, I'll download fansubs so I don't have to wait a few years for a series to be released in the US. Every year I'll try to buy a few of my favorite series, but at $100+ for some box sets, I can't afford much more than that. Fortunately, the NA industry is starting to adapt to user demands (RIAA should take note of this). Bandai, for example, is going to start releasing subtitled episodes on DVD ahead of the English dub release. This is a step in the right direction IMO. Anime industry could learn a lot from the fansubbers. If legal downloads were released in the same time frame (few days to a week or so after Japanese airing), in comparable quality, and at a reasonable price ($1-2 per episode), I would be all over that.

I rapidshare more than I torrent now. Fast, no peers, manager can take care of large numbers of files at once, and on 0day stuff it's MUCH faster than waiting for the second seeder.

Bottom line is that piracy is NOT going to go away any time soon. Media companies need to learn to deal with it.

When sites like hulu and veoh came along, my torrenting of TV shows dropped to 0. When other digital follows suit, I'll stop pirating anything.

I was always under the impression that rapidshare and its ilk were just spyware driven scams. I didn't know they actually did anything :p
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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I don't think anyone has never pirated anything...however; I am sure those developers/programmers are buying a lot of their software and more than likely the pirated stuff they liked.

I am one of the few I know that buy CD's still. It's a collection of mine. With Sirius, YouTube and Launch.com I can pretty much listen to any song I want without illegally downloading it.