Then why on earth did they give it to me to fill out only a few months before I am supposed to start? I really have no idea what to do now. My savings are low, bills are piling up, and I was thinking that I was supposed to start in May when I graduate.
Then why on earth did they give it to me to fill out only a few months before I am supposed to start? I really have no idea what to do now. My savings are low, bills are piling up, and I was thinking that I was supposed to start in May when I graduate.
How do those work?
I have no idea what takes these things so long anyways. They haven't even called my references yet. Does the government or the company perform all the background checks?
My mom is going to call her cousin tonight. He used to work at NASA, and now works at Lockheed in Maryland. Hopefully, he can give me some info on how htye do things.
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Well you get an interim, which means that you havent been arrested or have any outstanding warrants for your arrest. Then your badge will have an interim (well at least here at NG they do). Then that means that your application is through. It takes that long because of the 9/11 attacks so they are stricter. It used to take 1-2 months. So dont worry you will be fine. I know a guy here and hes 36 and he has lived in 8 countries and they lost his application and now its been a year and half but he has his interim.
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You can work on projects outside the black.
Only after the clearance is given will you be allowed into Area 51 to perform the Alien Autopsy.
People are normaly hired and brought in, trained and then assigned to black projects,
or you may be used in other capacities until need for higher security positions.
DISCO clearing takes time (and money) used to cost about $50K in the mid '80's.
What makes it cost so much. I figured they ran your prints, madde phone calls to your references, relatives, and past emploers and landlords. It shouldn't take more than a few hours per applicant. They must do way more than I thought they did... either that or they are slow and bloated like most government operations.
NG takes care of their people. If they're hiring you without a clearance, you'll have busy work or something or they'll keep you unclassified until your clearance comes in. I wouldn't worry about it. You might get bored waiting, but you'll get paid.
I was under the impression that they go far back into your past, and it's not just phone calls, but actual interviews. Ranging from your family and friends, to teachers, neighbors, principals. I mean everybody. And that they look into everything in your life.
Not always. I have been places where FTEs were let go before contractors because it came out of different areas of the budget. Still, I agree that in general, FTEs are usually more secure than contractors.
Awesome. I was homeschooled, so I guess they get to interview my mom for the family, teacher, and principal parts.
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CaptnKirk
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Well, let's see - when I went to the MX Missle Launch Team in 1981, they went back and had agents personally talk to any of my High School Teachers that were still alive, my College Professors, reviewed my Military Service, & made contact with all the neighbors from the previous 20 years. I had Secret and Krypto Confidential.
It's the man hours paid to the agents that work on the clearance,
you don't want to make it payroll deductable do you ?
Wow, I didn't know they went to personally talk to people.
It's going to be quite confusing for them. I went from public school, to church school, to homeschooled. I've been to two different colleges over six years. Had at least ten jobs in the past years. The kicker, I left my parents house, moved in with my aunt, then with an old co-worker at two different complexes(was only on the lease at one), then to my gramma's. But I left my address always as my parents, never changed it. Yeah.. if they verify and timeline everything in person it's going to be a pain.
i'm an EE w/Northrop in Baltimore. That's where you'd be (are) working? PM me if you want to pick my brain at all.
They try to talk to everyone in your past for the last 10 years or since you turned 16, whichever is a shorter timespan. Also depends on whether you're getting a TS/SCI or a secret. Secrets aren't as bad. You'll have to write down all of your jobs including periods of unemployment for that same period, as well as all of your places of residence... on this huge form called the EPSQ if you haven't filled it out already.
It's just a secret for me. I sent in the EPSQ and fingerprint cards a month or two ago.
No one has answered this yet: does the company or the government perform these?
CaptnKirk
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Most of what they will do is verify your input to them and look for holes in your history,
which you may have to ammend.
They don't really know which closets to search except those that you tell them about.
If there is no reason brought up through the contacts with your submittals for futrher
investigate follow-up, you're go to go.
MIB
(Watch for Black Helicopters following you)
which you may have to ammend.
They don't really know which closets to search except those that you tell them about.
If there is no reason brought up through the contacts with your submittals for futrher
investigate follow-up, you're go to go.
MIB
(Watch for Black Helicopters following you)
There may be unintentional holes. I didn't exactly document everyplace I worked, lived, or who I knew since I was 16. I sat down with my mom for a few hours going over it. She helped me with things and the timeline.
What if there were things like an apartment I lived at... I put down the complexes, but didn't know what apartment number it was. And alot of the dates I guesstimated and put year and month. I didn't have exact dates for quite a lot of things.
Ok, I mailed everything to a lady at Lockheed. She forwards it to the government, and then the government gets back to Lockheed?
this is ES right? how many years have you been a sub contractor? when i worked at NGIT, people started at 60k right out of college....
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