Got an interesting problem with an E8400, need help

stipalgl

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First, my specs, in case anyone needs the lowdown as to what I'm using to help them out:

Intel E8400
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
ASUS P5K-E
Corsair 750TX PSU
1X2GB Mushkin 996576, 1X2GB Mushkin 996603, both DDR2-800
GeForce 8800GT OC
Seagate 500GB SATA II
LITE DVD (IDE)

So now, on to the problem:

I built this computer around February and immediately overclocked it to 3.6ghz under a manual vcore setting and ever since then, I've been having problems with audio stutter and cpu spikage. I'm sure some of you are familiar with this problem.

Basically, whenever I'm scrolling down an internet page or minimizing/maximizing windows, or performing any type of task WITH the music playing, I get horrendous stuttering/distortion and a type of lag along with a massive spikage in CPU performance that seems to correspond with the stutter/distortion.

Sound familiar to some?

At first, I attributed it to a virus perhaps and so checked everything and when that didn't work, I reformatted the drive and reinstalled the OS. Nope, still there.

So I surfed forums and I found out a lot of people were experiencing problems with the Jmicron driver, and disabling it or switching the driver to the standard Intel one seemed to solve the trick. So I went and did the same thing and YES, it did work... for a while at least.

About 2 weeks passed before the problem came back after having to reboot Windows following some critical updates.

I then proceeded to do an assortment of different things:

1. Disable the IDE DVD drive, because perhaps, the IDE channel was causing a conflict with the SATA. Nope, didn't work.

2. Run tests on the memory sticks to see if they were faulty. Nope, fine. Changed the timings and upped the voltages. Nope, problem persisted.

Again, I surfed the forums and began to notice some people experiencing this problem in regards to their Nvidia drivers. Apparently, there's a possible conflict sometimes between the video and audio, where they begin sharing the same bus and resources, and thus the CPU begins to strain trying to send data to the two, thus leading to this problem.

So people suggested installing different sets of drivers and seeing what works. So away I went installing every possible Nvidia driver supporting the 8800GT that I could find. Nope, problem still persisted. Finally, while playing around, I rolled back the driver to the standard VGA adapter supplied by Windows and guess what? The problem disappeared.

So now I have a powerful, smooth running system and a video card that I can't put to use in any games or graphics apps because my driver doesn't recognize it. Obviously, I couldn't stick with this solution so I had to reinstall an Nvidia driver and of course, the problem came back.

So by now I was considering my options:

Maybe my motherboard was faulty. Maybe I needed to purchase an actual sound card and test it to see. Maybe I needed to buy another video card, perhaps the ATI HD4870. Maybe my PSU wasn't delivering clean power to the rest of my system.

And that was when it hit me. The voltage.

I went into the BIOS, set the E8400 back to stock and set the voltage on auto.

Poof. Problem gone. 1 week passed, still running smooth. But now I wanted my overclock back.

I overclocked again to 3.6ghz and left the voltage on auto this time, instead of adjusting it manually. Surprise! System still running smooth, although the voltage in CPU-Z shot up to 1.272, up from the manual setting of 1.248.

Currently, this is where I'm at. The system has been running smooth for a while but now I'm stuck with a voltage I don't want and every time I manually set the voltage a little lower, the system is absolutely stable under Orthos and everything, but that distortion/lag comes back. Under auto voltage, it disappears. The problem however, are the high temp readings under these auto voltages with 43 C at idle and 56 C at load.

So this is my question now:

What the heck is going on? Where do I go from here?

Sorry for the long post.
 

VirtualLarry

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That's a VERY interesting data point. I don't know why setting your Vcore to AUTO would mitigate the DPC Latency issues that you encountered, but it seems like it does for you.
Did you run the DPC Latency Checker (google for it)?
 

stipalgl

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Haven't run the DPC Latency Checker yet.

Update: It seems that the problem has actually returned even with 3.6ghz on auto voltage.

The only solutions currently appear to be rolling back the driver to the standard vga adapter, or completely downclocking the E8400 to stock speed.
 

Drsignguy

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What is your pci-e set at. Locked @ 100mhz or auto? And what other settings do you have set to auto. This is an interesting problem that you have.:)
 

DSF

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Yeah run the DPC checker at stock speeds and then with your overclock. It'll be interesting to see what comes up.
 

stipalgl

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PCI-E is set to auto. Pretty much everything else is set on auto except for the manual overclock and the 400mhz FSB.

UPDATE:

Ran the DPC latency checker and I'm getting red bars through the roof. Absolute maximum readings 36500+ micro seconds. Sometimes the red bars come one after another in a long set of lines especially when scrolling or performing a simple task while music from Winamp is playing.
Went through the drivers and nothing worked except once more rolling back the Nvidia to the default VGA adapter.

So this essentially leaves me back to square 1. I already knew it was the Nvidia driver and now the auto voltage on 3.6ghz overclock doesn't seem to be working, because after a restart, the stuttering's returned.

Downclocking to 3.0ghz again seemed to solve the problem for now.

So basically at the moment, I'm looking at two solutions:

A) Use the standard VGA adapter and have no way of playing any games, running graphics heavy apps.

B) Keep the E8400 at stock speed. (This solution has not been proven to be permanent yet)

Anyone got any ideas?

I don't want to start spending money just yet when the problem can be solved through other means but what are some potential solutions?

Should I purchase an actual sound card? Replace the video card entirely? Faulty processor? Case screwing things up? My room having bad karma? God making his presence felt?
 

Deadtrees

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Trying setting different PCI latency value in BIOS. If that doesn't help, try using "PCI Latency Tool."

Many people who experienced problems like yours managed to fix 'em by using above methods.
 

stipalgl

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I'm running Vista 64 and unfortunately, can't seem to find a working copy of PCI latency tool for this particular OS. If someone knows of one, a link would be nice.

As for the PCI latency value in the BIOS, where would I exactly go for the P5K-E to adjust the settings?

What about looking at changes in the hardware?
 

stipalgl

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UPDATE: After approximately 10 days, I'm starting to come to the conclusion that my processor may be defective and/or slowly dying/degrading.

First of all, once the processor gets overclocked in any way or form, the stutter appears but when it's at stock, the stutter has been completely nonexistent. I've pretty much determined this to be the source of the stutter.

Now, after having the computer running at stock speeds for the last 10 days, all of a sudden my system is taking ages to load up and into Windows and I'm not just talking about the startup screen. Even the quick Asus motherboard logo and BIOS message which normally take .5 seconds between the two are now taking upwards of 2 minutes before the system moves on to another long load time of trying to startup windows.

On CPU-Z, even when my computer is idle, it sometimes shows 50% and above load in each core.

If anyone has any ideas, please drop some comments as I'm seriously baffled here.
 

Mr Fox

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Originally posted by: stipalgl
UPDATE: After approximately 10 days, I'm starting to come to the conclusion that my processor may be defective and/or slowly dying/degrading.

First of all, once the processor gets overclocked in any way or form, the stutter appears but when it's at stock, the stutter has been completely nonexistent. I've pretty much determined this to be the source of the stutter.

Now, after having the computer running at stock speeds for the last 10 days, all of a sudden my system is taking ages to load up and into Windows and I'm not just talking about the startup screen. Even the quick Asus motherboard logo and BIOS message which normally take .5 seconds between the two are now taking upwards of 2 minutes before the system moves on to another long load time of trying to startup windows.

On CPU-Z, even when my computer is idle, it sometimes shows 50% and above load in each core.

If anyone has any ideas, please drop some comments as I'm seriously baffled here.






Turn Off Your Firewire, if you are not using.... Should cure the Issue !!
 

nyker96

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did you set the paging to a suitable drive? I had a shuddering issue due to paging wasn't set to a correct drive once. Also update your BIOS just to rule it out of the problem causer.
 

bharatwaja

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A friend of mine had the same issues for the exact same build.... Now he doesn't have problems, but try what he did, might work out...

1. Rule out the hard disk related issues.... sometimes if the hard drive is about to go bust, it starts slowing down a lot and that affects the system performance adversely and also triggers these kinda stuttering issues...
2. Do a BIOS flash to the latest BIOS version
3. Try the latest NVidia drivers... (you could try the CUDA display drivers too)
4. When OCing, do you have loadline calibration turned on??

This is all that he did, and his problem seems to have disappeared... Although I guess the display drivers were the culprit....

Just curious, what Graphic card are you using? you jus said "GeForce 8800GT OC", which exact card do you have? The brand and model....
 

stipalgl

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Brand is EVGA for the 8800GT. It's the superclocked edition of it.

As for your suggestions, I appreciate it. The problem is however, that I've already flashed the BIOS to the most recent version a while back, so no newer BIOS exists as of yet. Also, I've tried most of the Nvidia drivers already but I'll take a look at the CUDA ones. I didn't know there were seperate ones to begin with. I guess I'll have to search for them.

Also, as far as loadline calibration, I believe it was on. Did your friend have it off?