If you fight that, you'd definitely win, especially considering he wrote down the wrong freakin car year. that's even more an argument it was raining no one can really see much less a pedestrian. not only taht it was a set-up (entrapment is illegal?). You should have gone back and taken pictures of the setup.
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Lol, I wish they would do that in my area. I was almost run down by a motorist the other day. This was crossing a 4 lane road in a crosswalk that has lights that blink when a pedestrian enters. I look up to see that it was a cop that almost drove over me. All the other cars stopped...
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In some places you have to stop for a person waiting to cross.
If you see a person waiting at the crosswalk, you are supposed to stop and let them cross. They don't have to be in the crosswalk.
If you just drive by them as they wait to cross, you have "failed to yield".
Why would they enter the crosswalk with a car coming anyway?
If you see a person waiting at the crosswalk, you are supposed to stop and let them cross. They don't have to be in the crosswalk.
If you just drive by them as they wait to cross, you have "failed to yield".
Why would they enter the crosswalk with a car coming anyway?
I'm curious as to what vehicle you drive
I thought that when you turned on the headlights of any vehicle, all lights come on, such as the side marker lights, tailights, etc?
LOL, that is not entrapment.
It is, however, essentially a tax at the municipal level. Doesn't it make you feel good that you're paying taxes for these asshole's salaries so a whole group of them can harrass the public and tax them further?
God forbid they actually attempt to protect and serve, that might be dangerous.
It is, however, essentially a tax at the municipal level. Doesn't it make you feel good that you're paying taxes for these asshole's salaries so a whole group of them can harrass the public and tax them further?
God forbid they actually attempt to protect and serve, that might be dangerous.
Hmm go back there again with a video camera and follow the guy back and forth accross the street see if you can piss him off lmao. That kind of is entrapment, not sure it would hold up in court though.
According to Florida Statute 316.130(7) When traffic control signals are not in place or in operation, the driver of a vehicle shall yield the right-of-way, slowing down or stopping if need be to so yield, to a pedestrian crossing the roadway within a crosswalk when the pedestrian is upon the half of the roadway upon which the vehicle is traveling or when the pedestrian is approaching so closely from the opposite half of the roadway as to be in danger. Any pedestrian crossing a roadway at a point where a pedestrian tunnel or overhead pedestrian crossing has been provided shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon the roadway.
Additionally: Florida Statute 316.130(8) No pedestrian shall suddenly leave a curb or other place of safety and walk or run into the path of a vehicle which is so close that it is impossible for the driver to yield.
Meaning you yield to Pedestrians within a crosswalk, not to pedestrians on the Sidewalk. Additionally, Pedestrians may not enter an unsignaled crosswalk when a car is approaching and cannot be expected to stop.
/edit this is Florida law not CA law and is in response to my earlier post of the same.
It's bogus for sure, but you won't win. What the cops were doing was against the spirit of the law, but that never matters. It's really too bad that our system is wasted on programs that encourage police to seek revenue in such a manor instead of combating what they could in good conscience call crime. Then again, how many people join the police to make a living protecting and serving and how many join with the intention of abusing authority granted them by the ones who are abused? You got the short end.
Entrapment is normal operating proceedure in the U.S. now.
Just look at Texas for example where they are arresting patrons in Hotel Bars for pushing the wrong floor button on the elevator.
They say they may have had an intent to drink and drive as the excuse for the arrest.
Enjoy the rule in which you all have elected to control us all.
Sorry but that is BS. My grandfather was a cop and i know several people that are as well. Most of these BS stings don;t even have 1 complaint. It is easy money and they know it. One time someone I know said they did a speed trap as the head guy saw someone driving to fast for his likes. My grandfather left the force a LONG time ago and just told eveyone that he was getting more pissed that they were turning cops into meter maids and money making machines. That was over 30 years ago and things only keep getting worse from what I hear from those that are cops/police now.
1) Read the OP
2) Read the definition of Entrapment
3) Profit!
(I make it easier than those stingy underpants gnomes)
You know this stuff is freely available right?
From the California Vehicle Code: 21949. (a) The Legislature hereby finds and declares that it is the policy of the State of California that safe and convenient pedestrian travel and access, whether by foot, wheelchair, walker, or stroller, be provided to the residents of the state.
(b) In accordance with the policy declared under subdivision (a), it is the intent of the Legislature that all levels of government in the state, particularly the Department of Transportation, work to provide convenient and safe passage for pedestrians on and across all streets and highways, increase levels of walking and pedestrian travel, and reduce pedestrian fatalities and injuries.
21950. (a) The driver of a vehicle shall yield the right-of-way to a pedestrian crossing the roadway within any marked crosswalk or within any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, except as otherwise provided in this chapter.
(b) This section does not relieve a pedestrian from the duty of using due care for his or her safety. No pedestrian may suddenly leave a curb or other place of safety and walk or run into the path of a vehicle that is so close as to constitute an immediate hazard. No pedestrian may unnecessarily stop or delay traffic while in a marked or unmarked crosswalk.
(c) The driver of a vehicle approaching a pedestrian within any marked or unmarked crosswalk shall exercise all due care and shall reduce the speed of the vehicle or take any other action relating to the operation of the vehicle as necessary to safeguard the safety of the pedestrian.
(d) Subdivision (b) does not relieve a driver of a vehicle from the duty of exercising due care for the safety of any pedestrian within any marked crosswalk or within any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection.
Again, it's within the crosswalk. The pedestrian must be within the crosswalk, and only when it is safe to do so.
Since we're comparing our E-Penis size, how about this:
My father was NYPD then a CO. I'm pretty close with his friends, who are all NYCPD -> NY CO. My grandfather was NYPD then a CO. My uncle is a retired NYS State Trooper. My cousin is a Nassau County cop. One of my best friend's father is Nassau Cop. Another best friend's uncle is the head of the NYS state troopers. Need I continue?
From a pure revenue generating standpoint, it is MUCH more profitable to camp out on the expressway or parkway and just tag people all day long. Each individual officer can write tickets from sunrise to sunset, with never a lag in dishing them out.
With a sting operation like this, it becomes much less profitable due to less frequency of cars on the roads, the higher number of officers required for the sting, and the time you lose in tracking the law breaker away from the area so others are not alerted to the sting.
If we're talking about pure $, cops would much rather park out on the highway then do grunt work like this. Especially for the poor sap who gets stuck being used as a decoy.
These stings will normally occur because of complaints, not because the local cops are looking to make some extra cash.
Well, the thing is that I did not see anyone in the crosswalk otherwise I would have definately stopped.
Originally posted by: jlbenedict
I'm curious as to what vehicle you drive
I thought that when you turned on the headlights of any vehicle, all lights come on, such as the side marker lights, tailights, etc?
I am driving a 96 maxima. Yes, when you turn on the headlights, all lights come on.
On the newer cars that have automatic daylights, the taillights dont come on (and acc. to the latest CA law, both headlights and taillights have to be on when your whipers are on/when it is raining). Doesnt applies to me but I just wanted to be clear
I would have done that but I didnt had a camera with me and I dont have a camera phone
No, I am not in Ukiah. If you look at the link of the map, you would know where I am
So, the cops are lazy, and instead of policing the area for true violations of the law, they set up a sting operation.
I don't see how that makes any difference at all. I don't care if the cops are doing something illegal because they are lazy, or because they want to make extra cash, the reason doesn't really matter at all. You aren't supposed to break the law to enforce it. It's still a bad thing to do, the cops are jerks for it, and hopefully some victims will fight back and make a difference.
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