Got a ticket....should i fight it?

Spineshank

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Running a red light, it was yellow..turned red when i was under it. Fine is $107. I live in PA.



Thoughts?
 

J0hnny

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ALWAYS fight, even if you are guilty. The traffic violation system is set up to make money off of you. When you plead not guilty and show up for the scheduled date, they give you a reduced fine and lower points if you plead guity.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: J0hnny
ALWAYS fight, even if you are guilty. The traffic violation system is set up to make money off of you. When you plead not guilty and show up for the scheduled date, they give you a reduced fine and lower points if you plead guity.

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BKLounger

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definately fight it. In mass. the law when i got tagged for almost the same thing is the back axel must be over the opposing white line before the light turns red. Plus my cop actually put on the ticket that they gave me a ticket for taking a right turn on a yellow light. Even if you don't win they will reduce the ticket.
 

KK

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Wow, three responses and not one from a tard saying that you did the crime, pay the fine.
 

Allanv

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i normally say pay, but in these cases i say what would have happened if you had slammed your brakes on to stop on the amber would the person behind you hit you?

could it have caused an accident behind you because someone paniced when you hit the brakes
 

Aikouka

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Well, in my opinion, there's a couple things that determine when you can stop... mainly where you were when the light turned yellow, how fast you were going and the state of the road behind you. Although, it sounds like if you were going at least 40-45, you probably made the right decision not to stop, as you probably would've ended up past the line and into the intersection.

Although I can't help but think of this song when I read the title

:music: I fought the law and the... law won~ :music:
 

BigToque

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As long as you were already in the intersection before the light turned red, you have not broken any law.

Fight the ticket.

Edit: Well, it's possible you might have been charged with reckless driving, but definitely not running a red light.
 

Spineshank

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The charge on the ticket says running a red light (not in those exact words or anything though).
 

Linflas

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You've been here since 2001 and don't know better than to ask that here? The horde of self righteous never broke a law in my life flamers will all be in here telling you how you should die because you broke a traffic law.
 

Spineshank

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Originally posted by: Linflas
You've been here since 2001 and don't know better than to ask that here? The horde of self righteous never broke a law in my life flamers will all be in here telling you how you should die because you broke a traffic law.

I only pay attention to the people that say something worth while reading. However if i would have screwed up and went through the red light fully red i would say im guilty but i feel since i was through it yellow and then it turned red i need more knowledge of the situation.
 

Spineshank

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Originally posted by: deathkoba
Fight it, if you don't value your time and time = $.

Pay it if you do and be done with it. It's only 100 bux.

Im really more concerned with my insurance rate than the fine itself.
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Running a red light, it was yellow..turned red when i was under it. Fine is $107. I live in PA.



Thoughts?


Since you live in my state, and probably in the same region of the state as me (being that you have comcast email) SW PA, I would prefer you just pay your fine and learn to drive according to the rules.



Originally posted by: BigToque
As long as you were already in the intersection before the light turned red, you have not broken any law.

Fight the ticket.

Edit: Well, it's possible you might have been charged with reckless driving, but definitely not running a red light.

Ah yes... lets listen to a Canadien on PA vehicle laws.
Under pennsylvania law, it is illegal to enter an intersection on a yellow light.
 

manowar821

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If you ran a yellow, thats no crime. It's not dangerous, either. I'm curious as to why he even bothered you about it.
 

ahurtt

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If you do decide to try to fight it, here will be the outcome assuming the ticketing officer shows up for court so you don't get off free:

You will be found guilty but your fine will be lowered by $5-$10 and your points reduced.
Your court costs will be $75.

Have a nice day.
 

ahurtt

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Originally posted by: manowar821
If you ran a yellow, thats no crime. It's not dangerous, either. I'm curious as to why he even bothered you about it.

I think it depends on local jurisdictions and officer discretion sometimes too. If the ticketing officer decided you were reckless in running the yellow light when you could have safely and reasonably stopped (in otherwords, you were 50 yards away and floored it to make it before the light changed to red instead of stopping) then he may be well within his rights to ticket you. You can't break one law (speeding) to avoid breaking another law (running a red). . .
 

Spineshank

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I understand that but he didnt give me a ticket for reckless driving he gave me one for running a red light.
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: manowar821
If you ran a yellow, thats no crime. It's not dangerous, either. I'm curious as to why he even bothered you about it.

another person who has no idea about PA driving laws.

In PA yellow does not mean "proceed with caution"...
Yellow means green condition has terminated and red is forthcoming.
No further vehicles may enter the intersection...
 

TheFamilyMan

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Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Fight it, if you don't value your time and time = $.

Pay it if you do and be done with it. It's only 100 bux.

Im really more concerned with my insurance rate than the fine itself.

Instead of being more concerned with your insurance rates now, why weren't you more concerned with beginning to stop once you saw the yellow light? I don't really believe that in your state or city that the yellow light just "pops up" 1 second before the red one does. You know you had more than enough time to stop once the light went yellow UNLESS you were speeding and would have had to hit the brakes and, potentially cause an accident...in which case you deserved a ticket for speeding. Either way, pay the fine and accept responsibility. What happened to accountability in this country? Oh wait, it was done away with once everyone started putting syndromes, diseases, addictions and "justifications" to everything.
 

Spineshank

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Originally posted by: TheFamilyMan
Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Fight it, if you don't value your time and time = $.

Pay it if you do and be done with it. It's only 100 bux.

Im really more concerned with my insurance rate than the fine itself.

Instead of being more concerned with your insurance rates now, why weren't you more concerned with beginning to stop once you saw the yellow light? I don't really believe that in your state or city that the yellow light just "pops up" 1 second before the red one does. You know you had more than enough time to stop once the light went yellow UNLESS you were speeding and would have had to hit the brakes and, potentially cause an accident...in which case you deserved a ticket for speeding. Either way, pay the fine and accept responsibility. What happened to accountability in this country? Oh wait, it was done away with once everyone started putting syndromes, diseases, addictions and "justifications" to everything.

It was raining, the light turned yellow and instead of braking and probably stopping in the intersection i went through it instead.