Got a taste of southern racism yesterday...

[Mday]

here would be my response, assuming he isnt huge, and wasnt carrying a weapon

"f you you racist mother f'er. i hope to never see you again, and if you die, i wouldnt care. it's ppl like you that make the world think american are morons and idiots. i bet you and your family and friends lower the intelligence of the US population making us the laughing stock of the first world countries."

the second sentence could also be "i hope you die."

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Dari
Red Dawn, you have no idea who I am. You wouldn't be making such vitrolic statements if you truly knew me. I make assessments to what I see, hear, read, and experience. You don't even know the definition of racism, let alone its various degrees; what's acceptable racism and what isn't acceptable. What's outrageous and what's condoned. Until you've walked in the shoes of Afro-Americans, or any other minority, I'd suggest you STFU.

Just because you happen to be as minority(which is news to me) doesn't give you the authority to lord over others with your declarations of Racism. Idiots like you do as much harm for the cause of Race Relations as the Jesse Jacksons, David Dukes and Tom Metzgers.

Yep, Yep, Yep,

I work in an inner city ER, & get sh1t just about every day cuz I'm white from some bigot/racist blacks, I'm usually saved by a black co-worker or black cop who tells the moron that I'm not a freaking racist or a bigot & tells them to STFU til they get to know someone.

Gets more than a little old.

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: pandapanda
People with stupid views on things like race aren't confined to the South.

Panda

true but there is a very high concentration there. I grew up in the south, my family and i have seen it first hand and anybody who says it isnt rampant is probably white and christian which shields them from it.

Ameesh,

I'm Indian-American and i have felt it only twice in my 25 years. One time wasn't even racism, it was because my mom was wearing Indian clothes and got some stares by some teenagers when I was young. Some of them laughed cuz they thought it looked funny.

The other time, when I was young, some middle aged bald Anglo guy told me i should go back to my country. Both of these incidents were about 12-15 years ago though, and, i guess i've been lucky since then.

I have heard of other stories of discrimination but personally we've only had very little of it. Most people think we are italian or latin anyways so i don't know if that makes a difference.

I do think that Black people get it the worst though, and I really cant speak from their point of view as far as Texas is concerned.

But I do believe that people who speak openly about it are one step closer to reforming their ways, as opposed to the people that keep their frusturations/hatred/ignorance/fears pent up inside themselves.

 

[Corn]

....the silent majority harboring sadistic thoughts..........

I do believe you owe the majority of us whiteys an apology for this blatant racist remark.

My guess is that you've never really endured "institutionalized racism", instead you've merely been exposed to the fact that most people have an aversion to stupidity.

I suggest you STFU moron.

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: Bignate603

Originally posted by: werk

Originally posted by: SherEPunjab

Originally posted by: achiral
there is no such thing as southern racism you moron, at least those people are honest, us northern people have just as big a problem, but we like to keep it secret with our inner circles of white people inside our comfort zones

In fact, I think Southerners are LESS racist in many respects.

In general, I find southerners (Texans from my experience) to talk a lot and not know when to control their tongue. If they (southerners) are saying it, you can bet someone else is thinking it, and maybe what they are thinking is 10 times worse. i am of the opinion that racism will decrease in southern areas quicker than in the north, where people keep it to themselves. Besides, we're just more friendly down here in general. 🙂

I was going to say something to the same extent. 🙂

I believe as a whole it may not be too bad, this guy was an exception to the people I've met. However, he did come across as the stereotypical southern racist the way he talked about everything. It was really anerving that he not only believed that garbage, he just spouted it out praising the Klan and believing a race, which he admited had never done anything to him, was good for nothing and actually out to get other races.

It was a slap in the face.

You said the guy was Catholic. Aryan Nation and the KKK openly hate Catholics. He is even a bigger idiot for supporting people that hate HIM.

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: Bignate603

Originally posted by: BD231
You have a right to kick such peoples asses, I would not hesitate to beat the sh*t out of anyone who talked directly to me in that manner. Unfortunately violence is the only way to deal with such people, it makes them think twice before spitting off at the mouth. You had a 2 to 1 ratio going to, to bad you didn't help out the next jewish guy to step foot in that cab. Race issues are still a pretty big problem these day's, I'm half black and I've encountered quite a few race hating people, but older white men have been the only people to give me trouble :frown:.

I wish we could have, and it actually was 3 to 1. However, if you read my first post and look at the other thread that I mention at the end I've run into cabbies that are heavily armed and not afraid to pull out a large caliber handgun when pissed. I wonder if this cabbie would even pick up people that weren't white.

Funny you mention that. I have an Indian friend who was in NYC vacationing and he told me how the cab driver told them that he purposely passed some young black males and picked them up. Because 'they' cause too many problems.

The cabbie was Indian.

Can you blame the guy? Think about it for a second. The guy probably has one of the most dangerous jobs in America, a NYC cab driver of all places. If the money he receives is presumed to be the same, and, considering that people of a certain ethnicity tend to commit a lot more crimes than people of another ethnicity (and i'm sure we can all get into the debate of WHY certain ethnicities are doing what they do, but that is besides the point here), didn't he do the prudent thing? Its easy to talk on here about why cabbies who don't pick up certain people are racists, this and that, but the fact is, we haven't stepped in their shoes. I can, however empathize with those people. I'm not defending the cabbie that took you, he was clearly out of line and racist, however, for someone to, say, choose to pick up a young Asian male over a young Black male, does that really make them racist? As brought up before, a lot of times, some things which are labeled as being racist are really classist issues. I would be shocked and surprised if a cabbie was to pass on picking up a mature, well dressed african american male for ANYONE simply because he was black. But to pass up a young african american male that is probably wearing baggy jeans (like most urban young ppl do of any race) is just playing it safe, not being racist.

Disagree? I saw a documentary a few years back that interviewd African American cabbies, and most of them admit they do not like to pick up young African American males. Danny Glover tried to fight this claiming this was discrimination. what an idiot.

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: halik
on the side now, the Klan doesnt take immigrants.... its on their website. I wonder what would happen if you put aryan neonazi side by side with a Ku Klux Klansman. It might be interesting how would they argue whos the superior being...

I think racism is most american thing, im european and i've lived there most of my life. I gotta say that i haven't realyl seen racism till i moved over here. I guess because of the historial reason you guys are more prone to be prejudiced than me.

But some steretypes i managed to make : black people seem to have better athletic and musical ability then me. Maybe its just all the kids i've met were just gifted in that particular stuff, but then again this kinda stuff should average out with quantity. Other than that i dont see any particular traits to base any kid of prejudices off of.

(oh yeah dont call me racist for stuff i said, rather just show me where's the error in my logic)

Halik:

You haven't seen much discrimination because you are probably from an are that isn't very diverse.

London, and surrounding areas have lots of hate crimes for example.

Germany, well... no comment.

Czechoslovakia also has tons of anti immigrant and anti Gypsy people.

There is a tide of anti Albanian sentiment going throughout south-central europe as well.

If you haven't seen it, your eyes must have been shut, or you were in a predominately homogenous society.

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Dari
Red Dawn, you have no idea who I am. You wouldn't be making such vitrolic statements if you truly knew me. I make assessments to what I see, hear, read, and experience. You don't even know the definition of racism, let alone its various degrees; what's acceptable racism and what isn't acceptable. What's outrageous and what's condoned. Until you've walked in the shoes of Afro-Americans, or any other minority, I'd suggest you STFU.

Just because you happen to be as minority(which is news to me) doesn't give you the authority to lord over others with your declarations of Racism. Idiots like you do as much harm for the cause of Race Relations as the Jesse Jacksons, David Dukes and Tom Metzgers.

Yep, Yep, Yep,

I work in an inner city ER, & get sh1t just about every day cuz I'm white from some bigot/racist blacks, I'm usually saved by a black co-worker or black cop who tells the moron that I'm not a freaking racist or a bigot & tells them to STFU til they get to know someone.

Gets more than a little old.

I thought you were Arab?

 

[Pliablemoose]

Nope, I'm a cow...

Whoops, I was a cow, now I'm a Christmas Tree, the black man of the tree world...

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Nope, I'm a cow...

Whoops, I was a cow, now I'm a Christmas Tree, the black man of the tree world...

uhhh.. right.

 

[halik]

Im czech and i dont remember hearing anythign against immigration. About the gypsy thing, its not based on stereotypes, but rather fact and history. Gypsies as a social group have certain traditions and customs. In general they dont live in one spot, but rather the migrate from place to place. They are descendants of various migratory tribes in india. This setting doesnt go too well with employment and i believe the last stat shows 90% of gypsies were unemployed. They also speak a different language, so czech isnt their mother tongue.

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: halik
Im czech and i dont remember hearing anythign against immigration. About the gypsy thing, its not based on stereotypes, but rather fact and history. Gypsies as a social group have certain traditions and customs. In general they dont live in one spot, but rather the migrate from place to place. They are descendants of various migratory tribes in india. This setting doesnt go too well with employment and i think 90% of the gypsies were unemployed. They also speak a different languga so czech isnt their mother tongue.

Oh, in that case, discriminate on dude!

 

[halik]

the only case of so called "discrimination" is when the city or Pelhrimov wanted build a wall between this apartment complex occupied by gypsies and housing division. That could the attention of US news as i recall, but for the wrong reason.

They wanted to built the wall not because they thought white people are superior to the gypsies or something like that. It was a rather parctical reason, the gypsies were traching the aprt. complex (throwing trash outta the window and burning it down below, throwin glass bottles down to the ground and there even was a corpse of a dog or somethign chilling on the yard) And international media illustrated the whole thing as a one big racist event.

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: halik
the only case of so called "discrimination" is when the city or Pelhrimov wanted build a wall between this apartment complex and housing division. That could the attention of US news as i recall, but for the wrong reason.

They wanted to built the wall not because they thought white people are superior to the gypsies or something like that. It was a rather parctical reason, the gypsies were traching the aprt. complex (throwing trash outta the window and burning it down below, throwin glass bottles down to the ground and there even was a corpse of a dog or somethign chilling on the yard) And international media illustrated the whole thing as a one big racist event.

Yup, only one case, right?


Refer to the following link and wake up!

 

[halik]

oh come on half of those are from communist regime (pre '89) or it jsut law that affects all non-czech residents, not just Gypsies

The only incidents that really come to my minds are perpetrated by neo nazis, extremists that people generally dislike. (again historical fact, since our coutry was given to nazis back in ww2, they've been unpopular ever since)

 

[aircooled]

Can't we all just get along?

😉

 

[Bluefront]

Well obviously we can't.....I was bitten by a shark. I now hate sharks. Does that make me a racist? Everybody I know who has suffered a shark attack hates sharks....something you all don't understand here?

 

[IGBT]

What would Jesus do??

 

[Analog]

maybe thats why he's a cabbie.

 

[tcsenter]

Yep, Yep, Yep, I work in an inner city ER, & get sh1t just about every day cuz I'm white from some bigot/racist blacks, I'm usually saved by a black co-worker or black cop who tells the moron that I'm not a freaking racist or a bigot & tells them to STFU til they get to know someone.

Isn't it just crazy how unbelievably f-cking rude and hostile these people can be to those SAVING THEIR WORTHLESS LIVES?

Just once, JUST ONCE, I would love to have been able to say "What? You wanna die? Ok, take this patient back out into the street and let him bleed to death. He doesn't want us to save his life."

 

[Queasy]

As a white man married to a black woman in the south I have encountered my fair share of racism. However, it has been black-on-white racism as well as the white-on-black racism. None of it has been violent...just stupid comments as well as strange stares. 99% of the time however we have experienced no racism.

Now, I also have lived in various states in the north and the south. And I can guarantee you this, there is as much racism in the north as there is in the south. In fact, if you look back in history you'll find just as many racist happenings in the north as you do in the south. For example, Indiana used to be a huge haven for the KKK. It was so bad that the head of the KKK in Indiana was able to choose politicians. Prior to the Civil War, several northern states passed racist laws such as denying blacks the right to own property, work certain jobs, deny slaves who escaped their masters entry into the state, etc.

So believe me, racism is not a 'southern thing' it is a history that the entire U.S. needs to learn from and move on.

 

[scorp00]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: glen

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: SherEPunjab

Originally posted by: achiral
there is no such thing as southern racism you moron, at least those people are honest, us northern people have just as big a problem, but we like to keep it secret with our inner circles of white people inside our comfort zones

In fact, I think Southerners are LESS racist in many respects.

In general, I find southerners (Texans from my experience) to talk a lot and not know when to control their tongue. If they (southerners) are saying it, you can bet someone else is thinking it, and maybe what they are thinking is 10 times worse. i am of the opinion that racism will decrease in southern areas quicker than in the north, where people keep it to themselves. Besides, we're just more friendly down here in general. 🙂

My girlfriend is from South Carolina and she says that even her own family isn't accepted because they are lighter complexioned redheads and not fair skinned brown/blonde. She says that most of the state is that way.

I live here in SC.
I have never heard of such a rediculous notion.
You GF family is weird, but it isn't because they are from SC.

Why did you call them weird? Do you know them? Do you know anything about them? No. I'm curious as to why you called them weird. Because they're not. Makes me wonder about you. I don't care if you live in SC or not - you're not going to tell me that they're all liars. That her entire family are all liars -because they're not. They're not weird. They're upstanding members of the community. I've met parts of her family from SC, and the'yre fine. What they say happened. It happened -period. If you weren't there, don't shoot it down because you have such a hard time believing it, you asshat. :|

If she says most of the state is that way, then she is a liar. Maybe they aren't accepted because of who they are? I've personally lived in more than one part of SC and known a decent amount of redheads and none of them were ever treated any differently, nor mentioned anything about being treated differently. No one here really cares if you have red hair or not. They probably aren't accepted because they are asshat's like yourself. 🙂

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: SherEPunjab

Originally posted by: achiral
there is no such thing as southern racism you moron, at least those people are honest, us northern people have just as big a problem, but we like to keep it secret with our inner circles of white people inside our comfort zones

In fact, I think Southerners are LESS racist in many respects.

In general, I find southerners (Texans from my experience) to talk a lot and not know when to control their tongue. If they (southerners) are saying it, you can bet someone else is thinking it, and maybe what they are thinking is 10 times worse. i am of the opinion that racism will decrease in southern areas quicker than in the north, where people keep it to themselves. Besides, we're just more friendly down here in general. 🙂

My girlfriend is from South Carolina and she says that even her own family isn't accepted because they are lighter complexioned redheads and not fair skinned brown/blonde. She says that most of the state is that way.

We are only one generation removed from racism in the South. Hell, even my own mother occasionally remarks about the terrorist situation "Wish they would just go back where they are from", My stepfather still tells the offcolor colored joke as well as a few friends. My friends include people of different races and ethnic origins, including a handfull of borderline Good old boys...The rule of thumb in the South is the farther you get from major cities, the closer you get to segregation thinking and noticing of people that aren't white or black. My wife gets stares and looks whenever we go to my hometown (population under 10k), they only Asians they have seen have been the families that own the 2 chinese food places in town, not to mention a beloved patriot with one.
Got a question for you...if the South is full of a bunch of racist inbred rednecks like so many people think, why do most African-Americans choose to live here?
Never heard of discrimination against redheads before, sister even married a redheaded Catholic, and now she converted over from Baptist and I have a redheaded niece and nephew. Family thinks nothing of their hair color nor their difference in religion
IMHO, they will notice something that is not the norm, might even make a remark about it, but that will be as far as it goes. I think my involvement with people of all colors while growing up as well as my marriage to a non-white is perhaps an indication of the way we are growing up..this is generation x, mind you. Adults as I said early are only one generation removed from racism and segregation. Go to a restaurant here and you will see old-timers white and black sitting side by side talking...hell we grew up together, this is North Carolina, but I still consider us as part of the South.

I can honestly say this though that I have noticed that those whom I have had the displeasure of coming across who were racist (of all races) came across as less intelligent than your average person

Ignorance and stupidity are breeding grounds for hatred and racism

it's hard for a lot of non-minorities to empathize w/minorities. you're right, a lot of non-minorities won't ever go thru their lives experiencing a random act of hatred

No, its not a white guy can go to plenty of places where he is not welcome just because of his skin color, same as any African American.

The other time, when I was young, some middle aged bald Anglo guy told me i should go back to my country.

Wish you would all go back and leave us Native Americans alone 🙂....
I'd probably have said after you...











btw, how do you hear southern racism in a New York cab from a yank?
Sounds more like yankee bigotry to me

 

[Gnurb]

and it came out that he would join the Klan if he wasn't catholic.

what?? i thought that was a prerequisite for joining the klan.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Gnurb

and it came out that he would join the Klan if he wasn't catholic.

what?? i thought that was a prerequisite for joining the klan.

Catholicism was hated by the KKK as well. You just didn't hear it as much because the pecking order of what they hated was generally black, non-white, jews, catholics, anything else they could come up with.