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Got a job offer

mAdMaLuDaWg

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Well, after becoming thoroughly dissatisfied with my job thoroughly dissatisfied with my job, I put my resume out and I got a job offer. The employer just asked me for my salary requirement via Email and I'm not sure what I should put out there:
I do not have a degree yet (will get a BSCS next year) and I have about 3 years of experience. My current salary is $40k and my employer also pays for half my college tution.

I want to put forth that I would like assistance from the employer to help with college costs. What is a reasonable salary to ask for? Does $60 K sound too much? What is a nice way to put the salary requirement without scaring off the employer?

UPDATE:
Since some people are so bent up on the fact that this was not actually a job offer, I'll post the update here as well:

The guy called asking me if I could send some sample code of projects I worked on and if he could get hold of a reference in my company, and if possible access a live project. Lucky for me, my previous manager who works in a different dept volunteered to act as a reference. He just called back and asked if I could consider accepting a salary that was a little above my current salary without educational reimbursement he would schedule an interview, I said that I would have to think about it. I did some research and it turns out that the company is a small startup and I really don't want to deal with the hassle of relocating for a slight pay raise, plus I'm concerned about job security coz there is no way I could afford going to college/rent etc etc without a job (my educational reimbursement is tax free in my company, much better than having it plugged into my salaray). I might as well stick it out over here for one more year until I finish my degree. Plus he mentioned that I may have to travel around the tristate, making it impossible for me to attend college at night after work every day (which I need to do to get my degree done in a year)

Anywho, my prof said he had a couple of job openings so something else might turn up soon
 
a $20K bump seems a bit unreasonable, but it all depends on what/where the job is and what the average pay for that type of position is.
 
Your an ASP developer and expect 60K WITHOUT a degree or just stright outta college? Thats very wishful thinking imho and what i've been experiencing in my job hunts. If your into DB work and do a fair ammount of CSS and XML work as well then its possible you might make it up to 50 but higly doubtful with only a year of experience.
I agree type and location play a big role in salary though, need more info before get a true idea of what you "require"
 
Thats 3 years of experience. Right now I'm a SQL DBA, IIS Admin, .NET Developer, ASP Developer. The position is for ASP.NET Developer
 
You had best look up the value of the position on the Web to get an idea on what is may be worth.

Was the existing job underpaid or just under appreciated?

A %50 increase is a bit out of whack unless you were grossly underpaid. Without a degree, your original salary may be in the proper ballpark.

Try to get a %10-%15 increase and ask the employer.
Also, explain that your current employer was covering a portion of the tutition cost.
 
I have been making $95 to $100k for the past 7 years and I never put a foot in school after high school.

I got my start by knowing someone in the company, but then he left 2 weeks after I started. But that foot in the door was all I needed.
 
Originally posted by: Murphyrulez
I have been making $95 to $100k for the past 7 years and I never put a foot in school after high school.

I got my start by knowing someone in the company, but then he left 2 weeks after I started. But that foot in the door was all I needed.

what do you do?
 
Originally posted by: Murphyrulez
I have been making $95 to $100k for the past 7 years and I never put a foot in school after high school.

I got my start by knowing someone in the company, but then he left 2 weeks after I started. But that foot in the door was all I needed.

keywords being: 7 years ago


get real .com boom is long gone.
 
Originally posted by: Zombie
Originally posted by: Murphyrulez
I have been making $95 to $100k for the past 7 years and I never put a foot in school after high school.

I got my start by knowing someone in the company, but then he left 2 weeks after I started. But that foot in the door was all I needed.

keywords being: 7 years ago


get real .com boom is long gone.

yea but he claims he is still making that kind of money. im really curious as to what company would pay him 100K without a college degree. true, he has experience....and im not doubting him. but most people with experience but without a college degree get capped off at 70-80K

now if he's in sales...thats a totally different scenario
 
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Thats 3 years of experience. Right now I'm a SQL DBA, IIS Admin, .NET Developer, ASP Developer. The position is for ASP.NET Developer

3 years of experience while in college doesn't hold much weight in the real world my friend. Besides I could technically say I'm a SQL DBA, IIS Admin, VB Developer, as well as various other practical training experience on IBM mainframes and such but that doesn't necessarily constitute $60K/year. Sounds like you may be better off staying where you are until your done with college if your employeer paying for college is very important to you. However, like the others said you can't get what you don't ask for. You just have to decide how important switching jobs really is because if you aim too high with this possible new employeer your liable to have the decision made up for you.
 
Originally posted by: Zombie
Originally posted by: Murphyrulez
I have been making $95 to $100k for the past 7 years and I never put a foot in school after high school.

I got my start by knowing someone in the company, but then he left 2 weeks after I started. But that foot in the door was all I needed.

keywords being: 7 years ago


get real .com boom is long gone.

i think he meant he's been making 95k-100k last year, the year before, the year before before, the year before before before, the year before before before before, the year before before before before before, and the year before before before before before before.
 
Originally posted by: Nanotech
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Thats 3 years of experience. Right now I'm a SQL DBA, IIS Admin, .NET Developer, ASP Developer. The position is for ASP.NET Developer

3 years of experience while in college doesn't hold much weight in the real world my friend. Besides I could technically say I'm a SQL DBA, IIS Admin, VB Developer, as well as various other practical training experience on IBM mainframes and such but that doesn't necessarily constitute $60K/year. Sounds like you may be better off staying where you are until your done with college if your employeer paying for college is very important to you. However, like the others said you can't get what you don't ask for. You just have to decide how important switching jobs really is because if you aim too high with this possible new employeer your liable to have the decision made up for you.

i agree w/ nano.......if you're looking into a big company, you should first start w/ their internship or recruitment programs....

also, ask the guy what the range is, but also...i'm a little suspicious w/ dealing all this via email. Did you get an interview?...I'd ask range/answer requirements in person to get some feedback.

If all this is through email, you've no idea how many other ppl he's talking to as well.

btw...most big companies will require you to be the DBA, etc..,etc....and not expect to pay you for each one....multitasking is just apart of life...(unless you're in HickTown USA and you're the only DBA out there)
 
Originally posted by: Nanotech
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Thats 3 years of experience. Right now I'm a SQL DBA, IIS Admin, .NET Developer, ASP Developer. The position is for ASP.NET Developer

3 years of experience while in college doesn't hold much weight in the real world my friend. Besides I could technically say I'm a SQL DBA, IIS Admin, VB Developer, as well as various other practical training experience on IBM mainframes and such but that doesn't necessarily constitute $60K/year. Sounds like you may be better off staying where you are until your done with college if your employeer paying for college is very important to you. However, like the others said you can't get what you don't ask for. You just have to decide how important switching jobs really is because if you aim too high with this possible new employeer your liable to have the decision made up for you.

Ok, what difference is there of having a job during college and out of college? I'm a fulltime employee and a fulltime student. If anything at all, that should be a plus.
 
Originally posted by: Leejai
Originally posted by: Nanotech
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Thats 3 years of experience. Right now I'm a SQL DBA, IIS Admin, .NET Developer, ASP Developer. The position is for ASP.NET Developer

3 years of experience while in college doesn't hold much weight in the real world my friend. Besides I could technically say I'm a SQL DBA, IIS Admin, VB Developer, as well as various other practical training experience on IBM mainframes and such but that doesn't necessarily constitute $60K/year. Sounds like you may be better off staying where you are until your done with college if your employeer paying for college is very important to you. However, like the others said you can't get what you don't ask for. You just have to decide how important switching jobs really is because if you aim too high with this possible new employeer your liable to have the decision made up for you.

i agree w/ nano.......if you're looking into a big company, you should first start w/ their internship or recruitment programs....

also, ask the guy what the range is, but also...i'm a little suspicious w/ dealing all this via email. Did you get an interview?...I'd ask range/answer requirements in person to get some feedback.

If all this is through email, you've no idea how many other ppl he's talking to as well.

btw...most big companies will require you to be the DBA, etc..,etc....and not expect to pay you for each one....multitasking is just apart of life...(unless you're in HickTown USA and you're the only DBA out there)
The guy was referred to me by one of my profs (who he is friends with). The guy is legit and works for the company.
 
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: Nanotech
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Thats 3 years of experience. Right now I'm a SQL DBA, IIS Admin, .NET Developer, ASP Developer. The position is for ASP.NET Developer

3 years of experience while in college doesn't hold much weight in the real world my friend. Besides I could technically say I'm a SQL DBA, IIS Admin, VB Developer, as well as various other practical training experience on IBM mainframes and such but that doesn't necessarily constitute $60K/year. Sounds like you may be better off staying where you are until your done with college if your employeer paying for college is very important to you. However, like the others said you can't get what you don't ask for. You just have to decide how important switching jobs really is because if you aim too high with this possible new employeer your liable to have the decision made up for you.

Ok, what difference is there of having a job during college and out of college? I'm a fulltime employee and a fulltime student. If anything at all, that should be a plus.

What are you considering to be fulltime.
40+ hrs /wk at a place of business and a 20+ credit/semester workload?
 
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: Nanotech
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Thats 3 years of experience. Right now I'm a SQL DBA, IIS Admin, .NET Developer, ASP Developer. The position is for ASP.NET Developer

3 years of experience while in college doesn't hold much weight in the real world my friend. Besides I could technically say I'm a SQL DBA, IIS Admin, VB Developer, as well as various other practical training experience on IBM mainframes and such but that doesn't necessarily constitute $60K/year. Sounds like you may be better off staying where you are until your done with college if your employeer paying for college is very important to you. However, like the others said you can't get what you don't ask for. You just have to decide how important switching jobs really is because if you aim too high with this possible new employeer your liable to have the decision made up for you.

Ok, what difference is there of having a job during college and out of college? I'm a fulltime employee and a fulltime student. If anything at all, that should be a plus.

Because out of college you have a degree and during college you don't. Also out of college you don't have nearly as much to concentrate about outside of work and thus more is expected of you. In reality though you won't really be able to comprehend the difference until you are in fact out of college.

Edit: Kudos to you for being a full-time student and employee. That will certainly hold much weight for the next year or two. I'm just not certain that it will hold 20K worth of weight right now.
 
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: Nanotech
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Thats 3 years of experience. Right now I'm a SQL DBA, IIS Admin, .NET Developer, ASP Developer. The position is for ASP.NET Developer

3 years of experience while in college doesn't hold much weight in the real world my friend. Besides I could technically say I'm a SQL DBA, IIS Admin, VB Developer, as well as various other practical training experience on IBM mainframes and such but that doesn't necessarily constitute $60K/year. Sounds like you may be better off staying where you are until your done with college if your employeer paying for college is very important to you. However, like the others said you can't get what you don't ask for. You just have to decide how important switching jobs really is because if you aim too high with this possible new employeer your liable to have the decision made up for you.

Ok, what difference is there of having a job during college and out of college? I'm a fulltime employee and a fulltime student. If anything at all, that should be a plus.

What are you considering to be fulltime.
40+ hrs /wk at a place of business and a 20+ credit/semester workload?

Where I come from 13 credits a sem is full time. I usually take 15 to 18, and yes 40 hours a week.
 
Originally posted by: Nanotech
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: Nanotech
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Thats 3 years of experience. Right now I'm a SQL DBA, IIS Admin, .NET Developer, ASP Developer. The position is for ASP.NET Developer

3 years of experience while in college doesn't hold much weight in the real world my friend. Besides I could technically say I'm a SQL DBA, IIS Admin, VB Developer, as well as various other practical training experience on IBM mainframes and such but that doesn't necessarily constitute $60K/year. Sounds like you may be better off staying where you are until your done with college if your employeer paying for college is very important to you. However, like the others said you can't get what you don't ask for. You just have to decide how important switching jobs really is because if you aim too high with this possible new employeer your liable to have the decision made up for you.

Ok, what difference is there of having a job during college and out of college? I'm a fulltime employee and a fulltime student. If anything at all, that should be a plus.

Because out of college you have a degree and during college you don't. Also out of college you don't have nearly as much to concentrate about outside of work and thus more is expected of you. In reality though you won't really be able to comprehend the difference until you are in fact out of college.

Sorry I don't agree with you at all. IMO, degrees don't say jack about your know-how. Your second point may be true, however.
 
Originally posted by: Nanotech
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Thats 3 years of experience. Right now I'm a SQL DBA, IIS Admin, .NET Developer, ASP Developer. The position is for ASP.NET Developer

3 years of experience while in college doesn't hold much weight in the real world my friend. Besides I could technically say I'm a SQL DBA, IIS Admin, VB Developer, as well as various other practical training experience on IBM mainframes and such but that doesn't necessarily constitute $60K/year. Sounds like you may be better off staying where you are until your done with college if your employeer paying for college is very important to you. However, like the others said you can't get what you don't ask for. You just have to decide how important switching jobs really is because if you aim too high with this possible new employeer your liable to have the decision made up for you.

He can absolutely require $60k/yr if he has good project experience, and if he can prove himself. There are countless smaller companies that compensate talent for the value they provide.
 
They offered without a salary? Doesn't sound like an offer to me. Sounds more like a question they missed in interviewing you. You better be careful or you will price yourself right out of the actual offer.
 
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