Gore is NOT going to concede ?????

[jacobnero6918]

Apparently they are seething angry in the Gore camp at the ruling. Some democrats are saying gore may fight and try and steal electors away in other states. Since there is no law that prevents them for voting for gore.
This country will be turned upside down if gore pulls a stunt like that, it will be a nasty, drag out, winning take all political fight.

I was watching Nightline and Ted Koppel was saying democrats were telling him it wasn't over!

 

[BiggieN]

hahaha...funny joke.


i meant gore, not this thread.

 

[IamDavid]

After people have time to settle down and think clearly it will be over. Gore will have no political allies if he tries to fight any further. Except maybe that nutcase Jesse Jackson.

 

[Russ]

I don't think even Gore would has the requisite low moral and ethical character to keep trying to steal the election. Or, maybe he does, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that, at the least, he's smart enough to know when to quit.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Ronstang]

<< Since there is no law that prevents them for voting for gore >>



According to my understanding Florida law states that ALL Presidential electoral votes must go to the candidate that is the certified winner of the Florida state election.

Gore really has no recourse here. He can try all he wants but he will only succeed in making himself look like a bigger a$$ than he already does. He is politically dead so he really can't hurt himself through continued whining though.

 

[Russ]

Ronstang,

Florida isn't the only state involved, just the one we've been hearing about. In about half, the Electors are not bound.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Futuramatic]

...which sucks even more. If there was to be any change in eletoral votes, it should only be in Florida. I would think that the citizens of any state NOT contested would be OUTRAGED that their appointed electors, who were appointed to choose a specific candidate (otherwise they would not have been appointed), chose the OTHER candidate.

 

[Bulbasaur]

I believe 14 of the states that Bush won do not have laws requiring their electors to vote for the candidate who carried the state. All Gore needs to do is to &quot;pursuade&quot; 3 electors to switch their vote. Then it will be 270 to 268 with Gore the winner. However, I do not believe this is a likely scenario as the electors on both sides are rabid fanatics who vote the party line.

 

[DanC]

<< assume that, at the least, he's smart enough to know when to quit >>



Assigning an awful lot of credence to a moron Russ...
after all THIS is the man who invented the internet.

 

[Prodigy^]

well i'm still wondering why it isn't the popular vote that wins....makes no sense to me why it shouldn't be.

 

[Aboroth]

If Gore is a moron I can't see how Bush isn't. My country is going to have a moron for president one way or another.

 

[Aboroth]

Also, I think that even in some states where the electors are required to vote for the victor there aren't any penalties for breaking that law. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

 

[IsOs]

It could be. This is not ordinary time. Gore might pull it off. All the current administration have to do is persuade the electoral college to choose Gore and promised them that they will have a very successful future ahead of them. If this happens, there will be mass confusion and protest.

Isn't 2001 the true new Millenium?

 

[DefRef]

The reason we have the electoral system has been beaten to death in this forum, so do a search on the pros and cons.

In a nutshell, Gore only won in heavily urban areas and liberal bastions. Bush won of 5 times as many counties and straight land area. Unless you live in NYC or LA, your vote will be absolutely worthless without the electoral system.

I encourage anyone who has been confused by all the lies and spin coming from the liberal media to read the Federalist Papers and find out WHY the Founding Fathers put in place the institutions they did.

The reason Bush won tonight was because the LAW and the CONSTITUTION were followed. Gore's only hope was to convince people that the law was archaic and this furry, lovable concept of &quot;fairness&quot; be adopted in it's place.

&quot;Every vote must be counted&quot; was Gore mantra, but his systematic plan to prevent the military ballots from being counted in Florida and the Democrats currentopposition to allowing soldiers vote on base reveals how unfit they both are to hold positions of power.

Lost in the spin by the media as they start their four-year campaign to make life miserable for Bush, was the fact that the USSC was trying to prevent many OTHER states voting standards from becoming unConstitutional at the same time they were trying to straighten out Florida.

EVERY state had &quot;undervotes&quot;. So many states were decided by less than 10,000 votes, while simultaneously having many times that in undervotes legitimately calls into question whether a NATIONWIDE hand count with subjective standards could switch several states into the Bush column.

Every system, whether it's a car, a manufacturing process or an election has a certain amount of tolerances and thus, a certain margin of error. Since FOREVER, a couple of million votes have been chucked out in EVERY election! When a candidate wins by 10 million votes, what's a few million lost? Only when you need a precise measurement or have a close race, do you realize that you can't time a 100-metre dash with an hourglass.

Too bad Gore's first instinct was to see if he could pimp the system's flaws to engineer a victory for himself. His whiny diaper-filling about trying to just count the votes is clearly a lie considering how many other votes won't be counted elsewhere in the country.

 

[yakko]

<< well i'm still wondering why it isn't the popular vote that wins....makes no sense to me why it shouldn't be >>


A few reasons that it should not be the popular vote.

1) How many women voted for Clinton because he was attractive?
2) You would only need to win in Florida, California, Texas and New York to win the popular. Why should four states determine who runs the country?
3) Less than half of all people who can vote do so which means that the popular vote in this election was &quot;I don't give a sh!t.&quot;

 

[The Wildcard]

Although i am a supporter of Gore, I believe that he should concdede. I mean, he took it as far as possible, the United States Federal supreme court, and in the end, somebody has to put a stop to this.

 

[jacobnero6918]

<< well i'm still wondering why it isn't the popular vote that wins....makes no sense to me why it shouldn't be. >>




It would mean a candidate would just bribe poor inner city folks with the nations money and ignore everyone else. Actually that is pretty much how democrats get into office now.

The follow people would be completely shutout of the election of the President:

Farmers
country people
suburban people


The white house would be run by New York city, chicago, LA, and a few other big cities.

 

[SuperTool]

<< well i'm still wondering why it isn't the popular vote that wins....makes no sense to me why it shouldn't be. >>


I think the above post by jacobnero6918 explains precisely why. Elitist Republican pricks just can't live with the concept that their votes count the same as poor inner city folks

 

[Futuramatic]

Gore to concede. Speech tonight during Primetime.

 

[nickdakick]

<< 3) Less than half of all people who can vote do so which means that the popular vote in this election was &quot;I don't give a sh!t.&quot; >>


The point hit by Yakko.

 

[gittyup]

If he wants to walk away with any dignity, he needs to concede very soon! The country
is waiting....

 

[Prodigy^]

well it works well enough in my country.

that bribery stuff is a little over the top....but ok you might have a point. still, you'll see what the US' retarded electoral system has caused

 

[Futuramatic]

Bush did not try to court the popular vote. It would not have taken much to overcome the &quot;margin&quot; that Gore has now. There were states that Bush carried handily without even going to them. If he had spent a day or two in each (there are about 5) he could have found enough votes to do it.

 

[ChrichtonsGirl]

Geez Russ, you totally threw me with the blonde woman icon.

From what I heard last night, the people saying they will try to lure some of the Republican electors away are the hard-core liberal Democrats (I heard someone say Cuomo is one of them) - not necessarily Gore. I hate to defend him, but in the past, he has publicly at least said that he wants no part in trying to steal electors. Behind the scenes, who knows what he's capable of.

Besides, it is highly unlikely (make that supremely unlikely) that Democrats can convince Republican electors to change their votes. They're selected for their party loyalty.

 

[fir3wir3]

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I don't think even Gore would has the requisite low moral and ethical character to keep trying to steal the election
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Yes he does