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Gordon pissed because female Indy 500 driver 100 lbs lighter!?!?
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I mentioned in the other thread that a few decades ago, it was considered an advantage to have more muscle mass (to withstand fatigue). Further, this guy is very plump -- if weight is so important why doesn't he work on deflating a little? I think he's just afraid of losing and/or a bitter misogynist.
DrPizza
Administrator Elite Member Goat Whisperer
physics point of view:
1mph faster? What do they mean? Do they mean 1mph maximum speed? Or 1mph average speed?
Lighter = better acceleration - HUGE advantage, particularly over 500 miles. Should make passing easier.
But, I suppose simplifying it to "1 mph faster" comes from realizing the majority of Nascar fans probably are unedumacated enough to understand F=ma
More importantly, how the fvck do you go 1 mph faster than someone if you are right behind their rear bumper. You only get to go 1 mph faster than them if you're *in front* of them. Skill is more important than a "1 mph" advantage.
1mph faster? What do they mean? Do they mean 1mph maximum speed? Or 1mph average speed?
Lighter = better acceleration - HUGE advantage, particularly over 500 miles. Should make passing easier.
But, I suppose simplifying it to "1 mph faster" comes from realizing the majority of Nascar fans probably are unedumacated enough to understand F=ma
More importantly, how the fvck do you go 1 mph faster than someone if you are right behind their rear bumper. You only get to go 1 mph faster than them if you're *in front* of them. Skill is more important than a "1 mph" advantage.
poopaskoopa
Diamond Member
Although I can see lighter cars being faster, but is that 1mph claim even accurate?
MustangSVT
Lifer
AMEN!!! NASCAR, pffft what a joke 😉
thedarkwolf
Diamond Member
You do know Indy is a circle to right?
Man there is a lot of ass talking in here. I'm almost certain all of you have no clue what driving any race car is like, let alone what a difference 100 pounds can make. I can't stand Robby Gordon, but he has a point. He's just saying what the other drivers are thinking, but don't have the cajones to say. IRL is one of the few racing associations that doesn't weigh the cars WITH the driver. It just makes sense to weigh the cars with the driver.
I drive NASCAR modifieds, and believe me, 100 pounds makes a difference. In some divisions, including my own, 50 or 100 pounds is a weight penalty given by the rules for using a different engine or carb. For example in my division at certain tracks a 2 barrell carb is mandatory, but if you do want to run with a 4-barrell, which adds significant horsepower, you have to add 100 pounds to the car to even it out. Also, there are some divisions that give one weight, say 2800 pounds for a "crate engine" or 2900 pounds for a "tour legal" engine, which makes quite a bit more horsepower.
So, 100 pounds DOES make a difference. It's ridiculous that IRL doesn't weigh with the drivers like 90% of other racing associations.
I drive NASCAR modifieds, and believe me, 100 pounds makes a difference. In some divisions, including my own, 50 or 100 pounds is a weight penalty given by the rules for using a different engine or carb. For example in my division at certain tracks a 2 barrell carb is mandatory, but if you do want to run with a 4-barrell, which adds significant horsepower, you have to add 100 pounds to the car to even it out. Also, there are some divisions that give one weight, say 2800 pounds for a "crate engine" or 2900 pounds for a "tour legal" engine, which makes quite a bit more horsepower.
So, 100 pounds DOES make a difference. It's ridiculous that IRL doesn't weigh with the drivers like 90% of other racing associations.
DrPizza
Administrator Elite Member Goat Whisperer
no, if you read up, I point out that lighter = better acceleration.
a claim of 1mph is perhaps an over-simplification of the advantage. Since car racing fans simply wouldn't be satisfied with "it makes the car faster" meaning the car accelerates faster, they give them the 1mph figure to appease them. The people in charge realize the vast majority of their fans are too unedumacated 🙂 to understand F=ma
incidentally, someone implied earlier that increased weight meant more control. At the simplest level - friction vs. centripetal forces on a car going around a turn, the mass doesn't matter. If you double the mass of the car, you need twice as much friction to hold the car from sliding out of control. However, if you double the mass of the car, you've doubled the friction... it balances out. However, traction vs. friction makes the problem much more complicated.
Vic
Elite Member
It is an obviously unfair advantage, and one that virtually every other racing body in the world addresses through a system of weight equalization that takes into account the driver's own weight. That IRL does not do this is an oversight so glaring as to raise whole new questions, like the possibility of corruption.
oogabooga
Diamond Member
I dunno, i'm not a big fan of racing, but i'm pretty sure if one driver is 100lbs lighter and there is no specification, driving around with a lighter driver seems like an advantage to me.
Would i pout about it? probally not : but it is something to consider imo
ps : didn't gordon race Schumacher sometime last december? how'd that go? 😛
Would i pout about it? probally not : but it is something to consider imo
ps : didn't gordon race Schumacher sometime last december? how'd that go? 😛
Wow, its the most absurd whinning of all time.
1) Most drivers aren't over 200 lbs. More like 170-180 range.
2) Its men that have the advantage. They are stronger and can control the car better.
3) Its the first time ever in any sport that a male is complaining that a female has an advantge.
4) He needs to STFU.
1) Most drivers aren't over 200 lbs. More like 170-180 range.
2) Its men that have the advantage. They are stronger and can control the car better.
3) Its the first time ever in any sport that a male is complaining that a female has an advantge.
4) He needs to STFU.
Of course, lighter have an advantage but its really a moot point so he meeds to STFU.
The point is if lighter drivers make that much of a difference, then the owners need to start looking for 5'2, 115 lbs men to drive their car.
Thats why so see horse owners find the smallest guys to race their horses.
So instead of whinning how she has an advantage, the owners can do something about it.
Someone already mentioned a good analogy....its like a 5'2 guy complaining that a 7'0 has an advantage in basketball.
Maybe a 5'2 shouldn't pick basketball as his sport. Same as maybe a 6'2, 220 lbs guy shouldn't pick race car driving as his sport if it means he's at a disadvantage.
The point is if lighter drivers make that much of a difference, then the owners need to start looking for 5'2, 115 lbs men to drive their car.
Thats why so see horse owners find the smallest guys to race their horses.
So instead of whinning how she has an advantage, the owners can do something about it.
Someone already mentioned a good analogy....its like a 5'2 guy complaining that a 7'0 has an advantage in basketball.
Maybe a 5'2 shouldn't pick basketball as his sport. Same as maybe a 6'2, 220 lbs guy shouldn't pick race car driving as his sport if it means he's at a disadvantage.
mugs
Lifer
The point is, if two equally skilled drivers in equal cars raced, the one who weighed 100 pounds less would have a significant advantage over a 500 mile race. Weight also affects fuel consumption, which is a big factor in race strategy (Danika had to ease up at the end to conserve fuel, Wheldon ran out of fuel on his victory lap).
The comparison to basketball is poor, because in that case you can't equalize the two opponents. In auto racing you can very easily equalize everyone, so why not do it? 😕
I think there's a lot of people here who are just defending her because she's hot. :roll:
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