GOP set to ban *all* embryonic stem cell research?

[abaez]

http://corner.nationalreview.c...hmMzI0MGRmODZlZmM5ZDA=

I can understand someone objecting to embryonic research.. but this might be taking it a little too far.

 

[bamacre]

Much like immunity for the Telcom's, there is no way this will pass with a Democrat majority in Congress.

 

[brencat]

Red meat for the evangelicals for the upcoming voting season. No way this would pass even under the best of scenarios which the Repubs don't have anyway.

Move along...

 

[jackace]

This political war is getting hilarious and obvious. Both sides do it, but the only reason they are pushing this type of legislation right now is so they can stir up people and hopefully get more votes for John McCain in November.

 

[frostedflakes]

Originally posted by: bamacre
Much like immunity for the Telcom's, there is no way this will pass with a Democrat majority in Congress.

But immunity did pass... or was that supposed to be sarcasm.

 

[hellokeith]

Funny thing is, with all the breakthroughs in the last 2 years with adult and non-embryonic cell research, embryonic stem cell research is hardly even noteworthy by the most liberal supporters.

 

[jackschmittusa]

"not noteworthy"? Get real!

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

Republicans. Go team retards.

 

[Lemon law]

Read the link, this not legislation in any manner, shape, or form. This is the GOP platform the GOP may or may not in future ignore, but if the GOP does not win the Presidential elections in 08, , it ain't worth the paper its printed on.

Its also customary for the outgoing President to make a exciting pile of proclamations about national policy, and they often last a day or two until the new President gets around to deleting them.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Originally posted by: RocksteadyDotNet
Republicans. Go team retards.

LOL....surely you can do better than that.

 

[Red Dawn]

Brought to you by the same team that promotes I.D.

 

[Robor]

Good. I for one am glad to hear this and I hope the (D)'s push this issue to the front. It's a perfect example of how the 'holier than thou' (R) party is holding back scientific research in the name of their faith. I swear some of these idiots care more about cells in a test tube than people suffering with disease.

 

[GenHoth]

Originally posted by: Robor
It's a perfect example of how the 'holier than thou' (R) party is holding back scientific research in the name of their faith.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Originally posted by: jackace
This political war is getting hilarious and obvious. Both sides do it, but the only reason they are pushing this type of legislation right now is so they can stir up people and hopefully get more votes for John McCain in November.

FYI...McCain is pro-embryonic research.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Originally posted by: hellokeith
Funny thing is, with all the breakthroughs in the last 2 years with adult and non-embryonic cell research, embryonic stem cell research is hardly even noteworthy by the most liberal supporters.

Adult Stem Cells v. Embryonic Stem Cells
From everything I've read so far...adult stem cell research has actually been far more successful in providing cures for serious illnesses. Also, I understand that there have been some horrific failures with embryonic stem cell research where the stem cells form into tumors.

 

[lupi]

Didn't read the article since it wasn't posted, but seriously doubt it would pass as described by the OP.

 

[NeoV]

well then you need to ask actual scientists, instead of politicians, which types of stem cells they deem 'most promising'.

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: NeoV
well then you need to ask actual scientists, instead of politicians, which types of stem cells they deem 'most promising'.

The government's job is to regulate research based on ethical guidelines. The absence of ethics in research is a very scary path indeed. Whether or not you agree with embryonic stem cell research, the lack of acknowledgement of the imporance of ethical considerations in research by those in this forum is appalling. There's a reason each university and hospital has an ethics committee that is supposed to approve any research, including that on post mortem animal tissue. Poisoning the well, e.g.

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Brought to you by the same team that promotes I.D.

just demonstrates ignorance of this important issue.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan

Originally posted by: hellokeith
Funny thing is, with all the breakthroughs in the last 2 years with adult and non-embryonic cell research, embryonic stem cell research is hardly even noteworthy by the most liberal supporters.

Adult Stem Cells v. Embryonic Stem Cells
From everything I've read so far...adult stem cell research has actually been far more successful in providing cures for serious illnesses. Also, I understand that there have been some horrific failures with embryonic stem cell research where the stem cells form into tumors.

I have heard about this as well. Which makes embryonic stem cell research that less meaningful in the public eye. It simply fails to deliver.

 

[ProfJohn]

Lousy idea.

The first one was good with the "and" that allowed research on cells, but did not allow for the creation of embryos to get those cells.

The idea of creating embryos just to destroy them is pretty barbaric.

 

[ProfJohn]

Let's remember that this is just the party platform and will never be spoken of again after the convention.

The Democratic platform includes stuff that they would rather not have talked about either

The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and a woman's right to choose a safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay, and we oppose any and all efforts to weaken or undermine that right.

Any and all would mean attempts to outlaw late term abortion.

Overall this is a non-issue.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: jackace
This political war is getting hilarious and obvious. Both sides do it, but the only reason they are pushing this type of legislation right now is so they can stir up people and hopefully get more votes for John McCain in November.

Bad idea, people are sick of jesus nuts pulling this crap for the past 8 years. If he signs onto that, he'll lose whatever moderate base he might have.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Let's remember that this is just the party platform and will never be spoken of again after the convention.

The Democratic platform includes stuff that they would rather not have talked about either

The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and a woman's right to choose a safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay, and we oppose any and all efforts to weaken or undermine that right.

Any and all would mean attempts to outlaw late term abortion.

Overall this is a non-issue.

Would you really want someone that can't afford an abortion to have a kid? The job of Policy is to consider the facts AND the consequences.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Adult Stem Cells v. Embryonic Stem Cells
From everything I've read so far...adult stem cell research has actually been far more successful in providing cures for serious illnesses. Also, I understand that there have been some horrific failures with embryonic stem cell research where the stem cells form into tumors.

Are you kidding me?

So who is behind Stemcellresearch.org?

The domain is registered to a Daniel McConchie and the Center for Bioethics and Human Dignity. The CBHD isn't about research or science at all; it is, wouldn't you know it, a conservative religious organization. A specifically Christian group:

 

[manowar821]

WTF is wrong with these people?