GOP please make the Christian case for your policies.

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Bird222

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I guess he just wanted to be a troll.
once logic entered the thread, Op dissappeared.

What is up with you guys? Nobody is trolling, I am asking a pretty straight forward question and I am not getting a whole lot of response. I have no problem with logic and I have not disappeared.
 

sandorski

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FYI...the topic is you.

The OP asked a legitimate question. Especially considering how a particular and significant portion of a Christian segment of US Society indeed does view the GOP as the more Christian Political Party.

I'll just note this though: That Christian segment mostly supports the GOP due to its' views on Moral Issues than on its' Economic Views. However, they have largely adopted and/or shaped their Religious Belief regarding Economics around the GOPs' views in the process. In part their Belief is centered around the Bible and in another part they have centered their Belief around the GOPs' policies.

On the GOPs' side, they are mostly simply interested in getting Votes. They have not claimed that their Economic Policies are Biblical or even their Social Policy which attracts certain Christians for that matter. The GOPs' main incentive is not the Bible, but Votes and it just so happens that Bible Believing Christians were a large unaddressed Voting Block that they could exploit for their own benefit.

So in essence, the GOP doesn't need to explain the Biblical aspect of their Policy. That is for the Christians who espouse the whole of the GOP Policy to explain. That said, not all Christians who Vote GOP agree with the whole Policy of the GOP. In fact, when asked, many are aware of certain conflicts with the Bible and the GOP and/or their agreement with the idea that the Democrats also have the more Biblical position on certain Issues. Their choice for the GOP is largely based upon the Moral Issues which they have deemed more important than Economic Issues.
 

piasabird

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O'Bammah attended a Black Theology Church that preached hatred of white people. I think God has reserved a place for people that hate.

Love thy neighbor as thyself.

As I have loved you, Love one another.

There are probably as many conervative chiristians as there are liberal christians. Where does this hatred of Christians come from?

Liberals have a need to help people and Christians have a need to help people. This need to help your neighbors and friends is not evil just because you are a christian. Maybe some people's real motivation is they are just greedy.
 

sao123

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What is up with you guys? Nobody is trolling, I am asking a pretty straight forward question and I am not getting a whole lot of response. I have no problem with logic and I have not disappeared.

not getting any response? No less than 3 people have given you the correct answer, including myself and sandorski after me, with our answers all mostly in agreement. So how do YOU respond to those answers?

ignoring the truth doesnt make it go away...
 

Bird222

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not getting any response? No less than 3 people have given you the correct answer, including myself and sandorski after me, with our answers all mostly in agreement. So how do YOU respond to those answers?

ignoring the truth doesnt make it go away...

I didn't say I wasn't getting ANY response, I said "a whole lot". Compared to the other posts in this thread, I don't think many deal with the question presented. Maybe I should have tailored the question to discuss 'non-social' issues. Anyhoo, so is it your theory that most of these folks are only voting GOP because of the social issues, i.e. they don't really believe in 'war', they believe in the minimum wage, etc?
 
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jhbball

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O'Bammah attended a Black Theology Church that preached hatred of white people. I think God has reserved a place for people that hate.

Love thy neighbor as thyself.

As I have loved you, Love one another.

There are probably as many conervative chiristians as there are liberal christians. Where does this hatred of Christians come from?

Liberals have a need to help people and Christians have a need to help people. This need to help your neighbors and friends is not evil just because you are a christian. Maybe some people's real motivation is they are just greedy.

We the people, think you're a douche.
 
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Bird222...there are Christians on all sides of the political spectrum. However, I believe that the abortion issue is probably one of the primary reasons that many typically vote Republican. Many Christians believe that human life is sacred and that abortion is morally wrong. Surely you know this.
 

Phokus

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Bird222...there are Christians on all sides of the political spectrum. However, I believe that the abortion issue is probably one of the primary reasons that many typically vote Republican. Many Christians believe that human life is sacred and that abortion is morally wrong. Surely you know this.

The irony, of course, is that they cheer invading countries for no reason. The sanctity of life!
 

Scotteq

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The irony, of course, is that they cheer invading countries for no reason. The sanctity of life!


Sanctity Of Life...

Yeah: Because for thousands of years, God has "NOT" been a leading cause of Death.


[George_Carlin] ..if everything that ever lived is dead... And everything that's alive is *going* to die... Where does the "Sacred" part come in??.....

Viruses, mold, mildew, maggots, fungus, weeds, E. Coli bacteria, the crabs.

Nothing sacred about those things.

So at best the sanctity of life is kind of a selective thing. We get to choose which forms of life we feel are sacred, and we get to kill the rest. Pretty neat deal, huh? You know how we got it? We made the whole fucking thing up!
[/George_Carlin]
 

JD50

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I didn't say I wasn't getting ANY response, I said "a whole lot". Compared to the other posts in this thread, I don't think many deal with the question presented. Maybe I should have tailored the question to discuss 'non-social' issues. Anyhoo, so is it your theory that most of these folks are only voting GOP because of the social issues, i.e. they don't really believe in 'war', they believe in the minimum wage, etc?

The reason that you aren't getting many responses is because most people don't base their political beliefs soley off of their religious beliefs.
 

JD50

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The irony, of course, is that they cheer invading countries for no reason. The sanctity of life!

The people that supported invading other countries believed what our political leaders were telling us at the time, which is that these other countries were a threat to us. Irony not found.
 

Scotteq

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The reason that you aren't getting many responses is because most people don't base their political beliefs soley off of their religious beliefs.



Indeed - One might even be of the completely ridiculous and unheard of opinion that Religion has no business in Government and that the Government has no business in Religion.


But whatever.
 

sao123

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I didn't say I wasn't getting ANY response, I said "a whole lot". Compared to the other posts in this thread, I don't think many deal with the question presented. Maybe I should have tailored the question to discuss 'non-social' issues. Anyhoo, so is it your theory that most of these folks are only voting GOP because of the social issues, i.e. they don't really believe in 'war', they believe in the minimum wage, etc?

and there is the fundamental flaw in your thinking...
no political candidate is perfect for everyones entire set of beliefs. Therefore you vote for those who either agree with most of your beliefs, or who side with your most important ones.

to MOST christians... social issues (abortion, homosexuality, freedom of religion) are far more important than economic ones(socialism, minimum wage, health care, etc). That is why they vote GOP.
 
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