GOP: nothing to sell but fear itself

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GuitarDaddy

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Funny I'm trying to figure out what is liberal about Obama while you guys paint him as some socialist.

Voiced support of firing teachers in RI and privatize school systems. Check

Let insurance companies and pharma write health care legislation. Check.

Turns a blind eye toward torture and wire tapping. Check.

Escalate a never ending war into two more countries. Check.

Turn a blind eye to wall street greed and go soft on banking reform. Check.

Supported two more bailout of WS. Check.

Avoid dealing with outsourcing and talk up new free trade agreements. Check.

Lauded Reagan for his game changing politics and movment. Check.

No investigations into torture, into Iraq lies etc.

I never use the race card but really there is no other explanation for Obama hatred by RW.


But, But didn't you know that all negros are welfare socialists!! A good healthy fear of negros has gotten them this far, why should they stop now?
 

BoberFett

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This is the essence of party politics - my fears are real and inevitable whilst yours are merely politics. Both sides have elements of truth and elements of fantasy, but at the end of the evening "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you" remains a punch line.

Precisely.
 

BoberFett

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Wow. And here I thought you were just putting on some act to save face in that thread.
But no, referring to a self-professed gay escort as a ... gay escort, makes me a bigot in your book.

Are you really that stupid, or just hypersensitive about homosexuality?

Again, I ask what is the purpose of including sexual orientation in the person's description?

Do always refer to Obama as the black president? "Did you hear the black president's speech last night?" "What do you think of the black president's ideas?"

Pull your head out of your ass and take a breath, your brain is experiencing oxygen deprivation.
 

BoberFett

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So witty, so concise, so original!

I'd give you a cookie if I thought you could eat with your head up there.

Are you going to call me "gay" for your followup act?

Come on, you know you want to do it. Call me a "i love you."

Bigot.
 

Zebo

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But, But didn't you know that all negros are welfare socialists!! A good healthy fear of negros has gotten them this far, why should they stop now?

In all fairness it could be just plain ole ignorance and brand identity by the masses. I'm talking about leadership and the informed who deride him. No way is Obama even close to FDR, more Reagan and.er....Black Bush, a term I coined 6 months before election:)

Incidentally, at the time, people said ZEBO that's offensive or even racist, I countered, Investment banks, Big pharma and insurance don't give money to socialists or even polulist democrats, watch. I take no solace in being right about BlackBush.
 
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Harvey

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Not that the author is wrong, the Republicans don't have anything positive going for them right now. But how is this different from the Democrats?

Global Warming/Healthcare : Fear
Bush : Extreme feelings about the administration
Reactionary : Just read this forum
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TEH GLOBAL WARMINGZ IS GOING TO KILL US ALL IF WE DON'T GIVE OUR MONEY TO GOOOOOOREEEEEE!!!!!!!

WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!

Yep, no fear there.

The vast majority of the credible scientific community believes there is ample evidence to support the conclusion that man made pollution can, has and will continue to cause climate change. There is no such evidence from any credible historians, sociologists and other academics that any of the Obama administration's or the Democrats' legislative agenda has anything to do with "socialism." In fact, I doubt that many of those fear mongering Republicans could define the word, "socialism."

Let's see, getting sick and not having health insurance vs gay people getting married...
Which one is something real to fear and which one is merely politics?

Correction -- One is about human beings facing the possibility of grave illness, injury or death without the means to afford medical help, and the other is beyond "politics;" it's about spreading bigotry and, the subject of this thread, fear].

How many times has Obama dropped the 'depression' word to justify spending trillions? No fear there.

Are you going to tell us that the U.S. has not been in the worst recession since the Great Depression?

Are you going to tell us that the recession was not caused by the reduction of regulation and oversight started under Reagan and continued through Bush 41, Clinton and your mercifully EX-Traitor In Chief, George W. Bush?

Are you going to tell us that this recession would not have been worse had Obama not continued the counter-measures finally initiated at the very end of Bush-lite's administration and continued to act to turn the economy around?

If you answered yes to any of these questions, got ANY facts to support your your lame ass opinion? If not, as usual, your reality check has bounced.

If Obama can take credit for preventing a depression I guess Bush can take credit for preventing another 9/11.. both can't be proven but why not while we are playing this game.

Fear No Evil said:
ObamaBigAssMistakeAmerika

Fear Evoking Absurd Reactionary Nonsense Obviously Entirely Void In Logic
 
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JSt0rm

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Funny I'm trying to figure out what is liberal about Obama while you guys paint him as some socialist.

Voiced support of firing teachers in RI and privatize school systems. Check

Let insurance companies and pharma write health care legislation. Check.

Turns a blind eye toward torture and wire tapping. Check.

Escalate a never ending war into two more countries. Check.

Turn a blind eye to wall street greed and go soft on banking reform. Check.

Supported two more bailout of WS. Check.

Avoid dealing with outsourcing and talk up new free trade agreements. Check.

Lauded Reagan for his game changing politics and movment. Check.

No investigations into torture, into Iraq lies etc.

I never use the race card but really there is no other explanation for Obama hatred by RW.

nice post zebo. I like you cuz your real about shit.
 

Carmen813

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You suggest that politicians use unsubstantiated fears to garner votes? YOU GO TO FAR SIR!!!
 

Jhhnn

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Well, one thing's for sure- Repubs need something to sell, and they can't exactly rest on their laurels, so Fear it is. I mean, it's worked for them before, actually one of their biggest all-time sellers...

And they desperately need to distract the electorate from their real accomplishments, anyway...
 

shadow9d9

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Not that the author is wrong, the Republicans don't have anything positive going for them right now. But how is this different from the Democrats?

Global Warming/Healthcare : Fear
Bush : Extreme feelings about the administration
Reactionary : Just read this forum

Except the healthcare problem is based on reality with massive increases in insurance premiums over 10 years.

40 million uninsured is reality, not fear.

People being denied pre-existing conditions, being kicked off coverage illegally, having rates skyrocket to get people off their plans, etc are all reality, not fear.
 

shadow9d9

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WTF? How about getting sick and not having health care because you don't have insurance versus getting sick and not having health care because the government is rationing it and you have been judged not worthy or because you to wait in the queue as in nations with socialized medicine? There are plenty of apples to apples comparisons to be made without resulting to other fruits, no pun intended.

If you want to do gay marriage, we're on the same side. But I would suggest "gay marriage will lead to a societal breakdown" versus "government spying on suspected terrorists will lead to government spying on you and discovering how small your penis really is."

You are already rationed. You already have to pay increases in premiums which have been 1000&#37; in 10 years or lose your coverage. Insurance companies already deny conditions, kick you off the plan if you cost them money, etc. You already have to wait in an empty hospital over 30 minutes while they process your insurance information and decide whether to admit you.
 

Patranus

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I think it is interesting how the OP claims that the GOP sells nothing but fear yet the last two events of domestic terrorism was carried out by "progressives".
 

spidey07

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I think it is interesting how the OP claims that the GOP sells nothing but fear yet the last two events of domestic terrorism was carried out by "progressives".

Very true. Where's the homeland security memo warning about left wing terrorists?
 

kage69

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Again, I ask what is the purpose of including sexual orientation in the person's description?

And again, your answer was provided in that thread. Why is it our gay posters don't have a problem with referring to gay escort as a gay escort? Where were the cries of bigotry from the gay community when the story broke? Why is it you are trying so hard to malign me as a bigot? Was that news that upsetting to you? Makes about as much sense as someone calling you a rascist for saying Obama is black. You're pulling an Al Sharpton, only over being fabulous instead of being black. Wtf is your problem?

Do always refer to Obama as the black president? "Did you hear the black president's speech last night?" "What do you think of the black president's ideas?"

Utter fail. Your comparison fails on so many levels I'm not sure where to begin.

Are you going to call me "gay" for your followup act?

Why would I? I'm only interested in facts, and have no reason to believe you're gay. Even if you were, big deal, it's not like you'd also be performing as a shill for an anti-gay administration. Hypocrisy and double standards are interesting - rants from PC obsessed twirps like you? Not so much. lol, what act? You're the only one dancing around here. Funny how our resident gay posters don't share your sensitivity here, you'd think they'd chime in what with all the bigotry flying around, no?

Come on, you know you want to do it. Call me a "i love you." Bigot

A bigot that supports gay marriage, lol, thanks for playing. Sorry, all I can call you is an idiot, because that's all you're acting like. Idiot.
And now idiot, I won't divert this thread any more over your issue. I'm confidant anyone reading that thread or this one can see it for what it is.
 

GuitarDaddy

Lifer
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Originally Posted by Patranus
I think it is interesting how the OP claims that the GOP sells nothing but fear yet the last two events of domestic terrorism was carried out by "progressives".

Very true. Where's the homeland security memo warning about left wing terrorists?

Leave it to you two geniuses to equate fear mongering voters with domestic terrorism:) two totally unrelated concepts. And then try and pin domestic terrorism on progressives.

Add your two IQ's together and your total is somewhere between moroon and dimwit
 

heyheybooboo

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Thread: GOP: nothing to sell but fear itself

and: GOP TAX CUTS!



Did I mention: GOP TAX CUTS!



Don't forget: GOP TAX CUTS!



(errr ... pay no attention to the GOP failure to offset spending resulting in a massive increase in the baseline budget deficit)




The GOP: Where LOL bi-sects WTF?





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kage69

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What sickening political end do you refer to? Are you referring to using 9/11 as an excuse to enact the Patriot Act, for example? If so, I would agree but would also point out that the Democrats were complicit and Obama has renewed it.

Iraq was inexcusable and you will get no argument from me.

No, I wasn't referring to the horribly named Patriot Act, that's another issue.

Although it's been toned down considerably, the GOP politicized 9/11 in a number of ways, playing with people's emotions, and feeding them bullshit in the process. The RNC held their 04 convention in NYC for chrissake, east coast bastion of liberalism that they love to bash. Why? 9/11. The timing of terror alerts post 2001 doesn't really pass the sniff test when you take into account the time line of (R) scandals and (D) events either. http://www.historycommons.org/timel...side_iraq=complete_911_timeline_terror_alerts
Were Dems whipping the public up into a fearful frenzy over imminent chem/bio attacks? Remember the guy with the Saran wrapped house?

Vote for Dems, get another 9/11. Dems are unpatriotic and will get people killed. This was the basic message of the GOP for years, and I have yet to see anything by the Dems that is similar.

I am hardly a defender of Republicans but the notion that Democrats don't use FUD is absurd.

Do I have to post everything in bold or something? FFS I didn't say Dems don't use FUD! Repubs use it like pros, and have no qualms about involving taboo subjects like 9/11. Capiche?
 
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IndyColtsFan

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No, I wasn't referring to the horribly named Patriot Act, that's another issue.

Although it's been toned down considerably, the GOP politicized 9/11 in a number of ways, playing with people's emotions, and feeding them bullshit in the process. The RNC held their 04 convention in NYC for chrissake, east coast bastion of liberalism that they love to bash. Why? 9/11. The timing of terror alerts post 2001 doesn't really pass the sniff test when you take into account the time line of (R) scandals and (D) events either. http://www.historycommons.org/timel...side_iraq=complete_911_timeline_terror_alerts
Were Dems whipping the public up into a fearful frenzy over imminent chem/bio attacks? Remember the guy with the Saran wrapped house?

Vote for Dems, get another 9/11. Dems are unpatriotic and will get people killed. This was the basic message of the GOP for years, and I have yet to see anything by the Dems that is similar.



Do I have to post everything in bold or something? FFS I didn't say Dems don't use FUD! Repubs use it like pros, and have no qualms about involving taboo subjects like 9/11. Capiche?

What you're missing is that the Democrats would, if necessary, stoop to using events like 9/11 to further their agenda if given the chance. That is my point. The Republicans just happened to be in power at the time; had the Democrats been in power, I have no doubt they would have used it to further whatever goal they might have had.

These two parties are despicable and that is what people need to understand.