GOP goes ahead with Rev. Wright ads.

[retrospooty]

Apparently its the GOP not McCain's campaign (whatever) The question is, will it work?

I dont think so... These aired for 2 weeks straight on all news channels (yes, even the liberal media ones). So ther is no new news here. The public has already decided its not important, and Obama has reputiated the remarks.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/polit...0/new-wright-ad-a.html

 

[jpeyton]

8 days before the election?

The electorate has already solidified.

 

[ProfJohn]

Who hired the narrator?? What an annoying voice.

 

[OrByte]

not only will it not work, it will backfire

One word to describe this "strategy" and it will be the FIRST word out of the Obama's camp:


desperation.

 

[sandorski]

Only the "My Country Right or Wrong" types or the Racist "Christian's" who didn't object to Falwell(and other's)making similar statements find anything truly objectionable with Rev Wright's statements. Mouth Breathers and Slow Witted are the only ones who can be fooled into making the link with Obama a Voting issue.

 

[Vic]

What about Hagee and Falwell, their own hateful post-9/11 comments, and McCain's close relationships to them? What about Palin's anti-semitic Pastor?

The greatest problem with McCain's desperate mudslinging campaign IMO is that all he ever seems to do is throw rocks from inside a glass house. The McCain faithful can't seem to see this because they are blinded to his faults, and assume some kind of Obamessiah phenomenon, but the reality is that everyone else, especially independents, are simply bemused by McCain's consistently ill-conceived political strategies.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Vic
What about Hagee and Falwell, their own hateful post-9/11 comments, and McCain's close relationships to them? What about Palin's anti-semitic Pastor?

The greatest problem with McCain's desperate mudslinging campaign IMO is that all he ever seems to do is throw rocks from inside a glass house. The McCain faithful can't seem to see this because they are blinded to his faults, and assume some kind of Obamessiah phenomenon, but the reality is that everyone else, especially independents, are simply bemused by McCain's consistently ill-conceived political strategies.

The real problem that I see is that McCain has almost no chance to win the election at this point. (not no chance, but a very small one) All he is doing at this point is whipping up about a third of the country into a frenzy about Obama. This won't make McCain win the election, but it will make governing more difficult for Obama. Strange from a campaign that bills itself "country first".

 

[theeedude]

If GOP had some brains left, it would use these resources to try to salvage some battleground congressional seats instead of wasting it on McCain's lost cause.

 

[Ferocious]

The Christian right won it for Bush in 2004. They came in during the final weeks and gave Ohio to Bush.

This time they need to come up with four states. Not likely....but certainly far from impossible.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Only the "My Country Right or Wrong" types or the Racist "Christian's" who didn't object to Falwell(and other's)making similar statements find anything truly objectionable with Rev Wright's statements. Mouth Breathers and Slow Witted are the only ones who can be fooled into making the link with Obama a Voting issue.

Yes, but the middle of country is littered with such people.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Why do they want to open the door to Palin's Witchdoctor?

They don't know when to shut up.
Any 5 year old even knows when to quit.

 

[JS80]

Dumb asses waited so long. They should have spammed the airwaves with him and not proud of cuntry michelle for the last 2 months.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: retrospooty
Topic Title: GOP goes ahead with Rev. Wright ads.

The question is, will it work?

McCain doesn't need the ads to win, the election is already his:

10-27-2008 More W.Va. voters say machines are switching votes

In six cases, Democratic votes flipped to GOP

WINFIELD, W.Va. -- Three Putnam County voters say electronic voting machines changed their votes from Democrats to Republicans when they cast early ballots last week.

This is the second West Virginia county where voters have reported this problem. Last week, three voters in Jackson County told The Charleston Gazette their electronic vote for "Barack Obama" kept flipping to "John McCain".

In both counties, Republicans are responsible for overseeing elections. Both county clerks said the problem is isolated.

Shelba Ketchum, a 69-year-old nurse retired from Thomas Memorial Hospital, described what happened Friday at the Putnam County Courthouse in Winfield.

"I pushed buttons and they all came up Republican," she said. "I hit Obama and it switched to McCain. I am really concerned about that. If McCain wins, there was something wrong with the machines.

"I asked them for a printout of my votes," Ketchum said. "But they said it was in the machine and I could not get it. I did not feel right when I left the courthouse. My son felt the same way.

Ketchum's son, Chris, said he had the same problem. And Bobbi Oates of Scott Depot said her vote for incumbent Democratic Sen. John D. Rockefeller was switched to GOP opponent Jay Wolfe.

"I touched the one I wanted, Rockefeller, and the machine put a checkmark on the Republican instead," Oates said of her experience Thursday.

Virginia Matheney, one of those voters, said Friday, "When I touched the screen for Barack Obama, the check mark moved from his box to the box indicating a vote for John McCain."

Retired factory worker Calvin Thomas of Ripley said he experienced the same problem.

"When I pushed Obama, it jumped to McCain. When I went down to governor's office and punched [Gov. Joe] Manchin, it went to the other dude.

"After I finished, my daughter voted. When she pushed Obama, it went to McCain. It happened to her the same way it happened to me," Thomas said.

 

[bdude]

Originally posted by: JS80
Dumb asses waited so long. They should have spammed the airwaves with him and not proud of cuntry michelle for the last 2 months.

Uh huh. See you on the 5th.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: JS80
Dumb asses waited so long. They should have spammed the airwaves with him and not proud of cuntry michelle for the last 2 months.

You type really well for a guy with a hood over his head.....

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: JS80
Dumb asses waited so long. They should have spammed the airwaves with him and not proud of cuntry michelle for the last 2 months.

Because that tactic worked so well for Hillary?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: JS80
Dumb asses waited so long. They should have spammed the airwaves with him and not proud of cuntry michelle for the last 2 months.

Yeah, shit like issues and what they really stand for is just bullsheit, better to concentrate on talking points about their associates.

I can't imagine anything near this SHIT in England, here it's about the issues and no one really gives a fuck about anything else unless it's criminal and affects the issues.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: Ferocious
The Christian right won it for Bush in 2004. They came in during the final weeks and gave Ohio to Bush.

This time they need to come up with four states. Not likely....but certainly far from impossible.

They need more than 4 states... Of the closest 10 races, he needs all 10. If Obama wins Virginia and McCain wins all the rest below, Obama wins 277 to 261.

http://www.realclearpolitics.c...bama_vs_mccain/?map=10

Florida (27) 48.2 45.5 Obama +2.7
Nevada (5) 49.0 45.5 Obama +3.5
North Car (15) 48.8 47.2 Obama +1.6
Missouri (11) 47.4 46.8 Obama +0.6
Indiana (11) 46.8 46.5 Obama +0.3
Colorado (9) 51.0 44.8 Obama +6.2
Ohio (20) 50.5 44.2 Obama +6.3
Virginia (13) 51.3 44.0 Obama +7.3
Montana (3) 44.5 47.8 McCain +3.3
West V.(5) 42.2 50.2 McCain +8.0

 

[bdude]

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Ferocious
The Christian right won it for Bush in 2004. They came in during the final weeks and gave Ohio to Bush.

This time they need to come up with four states. Not likely....but certainly far from impossible.

They need more than 4 states... Of the closest 10 races, he needs all 10. IF Obama wins virginia and McCain wins all the rest, Obam wins.

http://www.realclearpolitics.c...bama_vs_mccain/?map=10

Florida (27) 48.2 45.5 Obama +2.7
Nevada (5) 49.0 45.5 Obama +3.5
North Car (15) 48.8 47.2 Obama +1.6
Missouri (11) 47.4 46.8 Obama +0.6
Indiana (11) 46.8 46.5 Obama +0.3
Montana (3) 44.5 47.8 McCain +3.3
Colorado (9) 51.0 44.8 Obama +6.2
Ohio (20) 50.5 44.2 Obama +6.3
West V.(5) 42.2 50.2 McCain +8.0
Virginia (13) 51.3 44.0 Obama +7.3

9 days left!!!

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

McCain doesn't need the ads to win, the election is already his:

Obama's ground campaign needs to convert over from GOTV to "Protecting the Vote."

Its time people staked out these polling sites with explicit instructions to voters to review their on-screen ballot before "clicking" the vote button. According to the officials in W VA there is a summary screen of some sort that allows voters to review their decisions prior to "clicking" the vote button.

This is something I would take a day off to do. This business about screwy voting machines has just got to stop.

DOUBLE CHECK YOUR VOTE!!!

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: JS80
Dumb asses waited so long. They should have spammed the airwaves with him and not proud of cuntry michelle for the last 2 months.

Yeah, shit like issues and what they really stand for is just bullsheit, better to concentrate on talking points about their associates.

I can't imagine anything near this SHIT in England, here it's about the issues and no one really gives a fuck about anything else unless it's criminal and affects the issues.

The problem with the Wright tactic is that it is inherently racist. And bear with me, because I hate to play this card. It's just that the only significant difference between Obama's church and preacher, and McCain's and Palin's churches and preachers, is that Obama's church and preacher are black and teach a black-oriented theology.
McCain's religious supporters, Hagee and Falwell, are (or were) quite radical in their own right. They blamed 9/11 as God's punishment to America for being tolerant towards gays. Wright blamed 9/11 as God's punishment to America for racism against blacks. At the same time, Palin's church teaches that terrorism is God's punishment to the Jews for not accepting Christianity.

So we really only have 2 choices here for why McCain would play this game. Either he's throwing rocks from a glass house and is just hoping the rest of us won't notice (what I would like to believe), or he is intentionally playing the race angle here, i.e. white fundie hate churches are a-okay but evangelical black liberation churches are not.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: JS80
Dumb asses waited so long. They should have spammed the airwaves with him and not proud of cuntry michelle for the last 2 months.

Eh, don't listen to this clown. He's just a coward with a keyboard.

 

[StageLeft]

Some people around here called the timing on that quite well.

Still, I voted no because I have not seen enough yet to do an 11th hour switch to McCain and Obama is VERY far ahead with electorals.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: JS80
Dumb asses waited so long. They should have spammed the airwaves with him and not proud of cuntry michelle for the last 2 months.

But that only serves to rile up the ultra right that is already voting for McCain... He NEEDS independants and they DONT like negative crap that isnt relevant. They want to know about the issues.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: sandorski
Only the "My Country Right or Wrong" types or the Racist "Christian's" who didn't object to Falwell(and other's)making similar statements find anything truly objectionable with Rev Wright's statements. Mouth Breathers and Slow Witted are the only ones who can be fooled into making the link with Obama a Voting issue.

Yes, but the middle of country is littered with such people.

and the most horrific thing about our system is that they are the ones who vote the most

Not the wealthy and not the young educated students..

the retired fanatics and the lower middle class

"god damn america" ... I think he already did.. ever hear of The Bush Family