GOP Getting Nervous about . . .

[CaptnKirk]

All the Money Going to Iraq

Washington Post (Just enter DOB, M or F, & ZIP)

Boy oh boy, there are some strange price tags in this . .
$ 900 Million to IMPORT Petroleum Products - in the 2nd largest supply source in the world ?
$ 200, 000 per person for an Iraqi Witness Protection Program ?
$ 54 Million for a computer study of Iraq Postal Service ?
$400 Million for Prisons at $ 50,000 per bed ?

Haliburton must be the one getting most of this contractor money.

 

[BOBDN]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
All the Money Going to Iraq

Washington Post <STRONG>(Just enter DOB, M or F, & ZIP)
</STRONG>
Boy oh boy, there are some strange price tags in this . .
$ 900 Million to IMPORT Petroleum Products - in the 2nd largest supply source in the world ?
$ 200, 000 per person for an Iraqi Witness Protection Program ?
$ 54 Million for a computer study of Iraq Postal Service ?
$400 Million for Prisons at $ 50,000 per bed ?

Haliburton must be the one getting most of this contractor money.

All a result of the foresight and planning of the Bush administration.

I wonder how much of the money from those RIDICULOUS expenditures will wind up lining pockets or be used for secret ops.

This is what passes for bringing freedom and democracy to Iraq according to the Bush administration.

What a disgrace.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Bring back Saddam! Bring back Saddam! No War for Oil! Bring Back Saddam!

 

[BOBDN]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Bring back Saddam! Bring back Saddam! No War for Oil! Bring Back Saddam!

It's good to see you haven't regenerated any brain cells galt.

Your support of Saddam is disgusting. You belong in a cell at Gitmo.

 

[tk149]

<Darth Vader> I feel a disturbance in the Force <Darth Vader>

Senate GOP leaders are rushing to bring the $87 billion request to a vote by the end of next week, prompting Democratic complaints that the measure is not being fully considered. Daschle questioned the need for haste, noting that Bremer told Democrats this week that the money will not be needed until January

This does not appear to be responsible fiscal policy.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: tk149
<Darth Vader> I feel a disturbance in the Force <Darth Vader>

Senate GOP leaders are rushing to bring the $87 billion request to a vote by the end of next week, prompting Democratic complaints that the measure is not being fully considered. Daschle questioned the need for haste, noting that Bremer told Democrats this week that the money will not be needed until January

This does not appear to be responsible fiscal policy.

...neither is the loss of $200B+ resulting from 9/11...think of it as an insurance policy and an expensive message to the world.

 

[BOBDN]

Originally posted by: tk149
<Darth Vader> I feel a disturbance in the Force <Darth Vader>

Senate GOP leaders are rushing to bring the $87 billion request to a vote by the end of next week, prompting Democratic complaints that the measure is not being fully considered. Daschle questioned the need for haste, noting that Bremer told Democrats this week that the money will not be needed until January

This does not appear to be responsible fiscal policy.

Well, American voters gave these radicals control of both houses of Congress. We can all see very clearly where that led.

The party of fiscal responsibility has led us from budget surplus to a record budget deficit, 3 million jobs lost, yearly increases in the number of Americans living in poverty and an unnecessary invasion that has cost us hundreds of billions and will cost us hundreds of billions more.

I sure hope Bush can steal another election. We really need this kind of leadership.

NOT.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

..so the plurality of America is radical, but your view(s) is more 'mainstream'? ...funny how that works.

...and the Democrats wonder why they control nothing in the country. Oh, wait, it's because we are all radical.

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: tk149
<Darth Vader> I feel a disturbance in the Force <Darth Vader>

Senate GOP leaders are rushing to bring the $87 billion request to a vote by the end of next week, prompting Democratic complaints that the measure is not being fully considered. Daschle questioned the need for haste, noting that Bremer told Democrats this week that the money will not be needed until January

This does not appear to be responsible fiscal policy.

...neither is the loss of $200B+ resulting from 9/11...think of it as an insurance policy and an expensive message to the world.

Invoking 9/11, classy.

Fact is it has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Anyone who isn't willing to look as the proposed expenditures in Iraq is idiotic. An 87 billion dollar figure should be scrutinized thoroughly. It's the administartions job to prove that it needs that money. If at the end it's proven that it's needed then it should pass, but not untill then. All that needs to happen is that it's passed by the end of the year, there's no need to rush it out now.

 

[BOBDN]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
..so the plurality of America is radical, but your view(s) is more 'mainstream'? ...funny how that works.

...and the Democrats wonder why they control nothing in the country. Oh, wait, it's because we are all radical.

Bush didn't get a plurality. He lost by 500,000 votes nationwide .....funny how that works.

We'll see what mainstream is in 2004.

 

[BOBDN]

Originally posted by: SViscusi

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: tk149
<Darth Vader> I feel a disturbance in the Force <Darth Vader>

Senate GOP leaders are rushing to bring the $87 billion request to a vote by the end of next week, prompting Democratic complaints that the measure is not being fully considered. Daschle questioned the need for haste, noting that Bremer told Democrats this week that the money will not be needed until January

This does not appear to be responsible fiscal policy.

...neither is the loss of $200B+ resulting from 9/11...think of it as an insurance policy and an expensive message to the world.

Invoking 9/11, classy.

Fact is it has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Anyone who isn't willing to look as the proposed expenditures in Iraq is idiotic. An 87 billion dollar figure should be scrutinized thoroughly. It's the administartions job to prove that it needs that money. If at the end it's proven that it's needed then it should pass, but not untill then. All that needs to happen is that it's passed by the end of the year, there's no need to rush it out now.

The only reason to rush it now is so Halliburton/Cheney can get their hands on it before the money stops flowing.

This is what we get when radical Republicans control government. Deficits, poverty, war and war profiteering.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

...and good talking points about the wealthiest 1%

 

[DealMonkey]

Man oh man, I almost missed Galt around here. Yeah Galt, tying Iraq to 9/11 has become worse than passe. Even your main-main Bushie and pals have fessed up. There's no connection. Besides, SH had 12 long years to hatch a plot against us, or to hand of "WMDs" to terrorists, and he didn't. About the worst thing he could dream up was to shoot some triple-A at our boys enforcing the no-fly zones once in a while. Ooooooh, scary people.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Man oh man, I almost missed Galt around here.

We are about to release some data Monday, so I had to earn my cheese the last two weeks. Fear not, friend, I stop back in from time to time

 

[kage69]

Yes, there is A LOT wrong with this picture, no doubt there. What I do doubt is your integrity BOOOOB..do you have any idea how asstastically retarded and hypocritical you sound berating someone else of their 'support of Saddam' ???? Feel free to take that personally; your hatred of Bush is so prevalent that you, on several occasions, painted Saddam as a victim and even confirmed you believe the Iraqis would be better off with him still in power.

You want to post things that illustrate your point? Fine, but enough with the slams, you're obviously in no position to criticize anyone here.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Nice

 

[Wolfdog]

Granted Saddam wasn't the best of sorts. I do believe that he was taken from power illegally. Where are the WOMD? Basically a lie. The same one that allowed his prodigy to be murdered. All in the name of democracy. Sometimes the US is so hipocritical about the rest of the world. The kind of things that the US government has done to other countries that the general populace never hears about. You know that the US funded and supplied Alqueda with arms during the Afghanistan war? That money being spend in Iraq is based on disinformation that the administration propigated for whatever reason. Plenty of reason to put Benedict Arnold...er...Bush in prison for purgering himself before congress. Although it will never happen, since the 48% that voted for him have no concept of what real democracy is. For the people, by the people. Not one greedy guy trumpeting around, spreading lies. As example look how quickly he passed the buck when he wanted to give billions to Africa. Didn't they give Iraq materials to purify uranium? I swear it was the speech writer that put it in there. IQ's must have dropped sharply in the US. He hasn't earned a penny since he stole the office.

 

[Moonbeam]

Seed money for Republican contributions.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Seed money for Republican contributions.

It worked; I threw the party a hundred last week. God bless America.

 

[ITJunkie]

Invoking 9/11, classy.

Fact is it has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Anyone who isn't willing to look as the proposed expenditures in Iraq is idiotic. An 87 billion dollar figure should be scrutinized thoroughly. It's the administartions job to prove that it needs that money. If at the end it's proven that it's needed then it should pass, but not untill then. All that needs to happen is that it's passed by the end of the year, there's no need to rush it out now.

Well said. :beer:

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Hope congress remembers this.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: ITJunkie

Invoking 9/11, classy.

Fact is it has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Anyone who isn't willing to look as the proposed expenditures in Iraq is idiotic. An 87 billion dollar figure should be scrutinized thoroughly. It's the administartions job to prove that it needs that money. If at the end it's proven that it's needed then it should pass, but not untill then. All that needs to happen is that it's passed by the end of the year, there's no need to rush it out now.

Well said. :beer:

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Hope congress remembers this.

Yep - I agree. ALL gov't expenditures should be scrutinized. They all should be able to PROVE they need the money and that it's going exactly where it needs to go. Somehow though I don't think that is going to happen any time soon. The Dems will forget their little game they are playing right now when it comes to social spending The Repubs really need to seize on this "scrutiny" push that the dems are using as a political trick. I say that all expenditures for next year be looked at...starting with SS.

CkG

 

[LunarRay]

I agree with the look see at SS. I say end the program now. Give back every cent put in by the folks 39 and under and let them do what they want with the $. When they reach retirement they can rely on whatever they invested in to survive (or starve). Those over 39 through 49 get to stop putting $ in and get a check from SS based on their contribution compounded at the RFR of TBills amortized over their expected life with the unused balance given to their beneficiaries and those 50 and over contribute (along with employers) as is now and with all the current benefits (disability etc.) accruing to them. All funds to come from the SS Trust for the payout and if the Trust runs out it comes out of the General Fund. End the Program now.. But! If you invest in Enrons and they go broke so do you. No bail out! You simply starve! or as ROBOCAD says "Let their families care for them".

 

[LunarRay]

posted twiceteen times

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: LunarRay "Let their families care for them".

As people did before the gov't stepped in and thought they could do it better

CkG

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: LunarRay "Let their families care for them".

As people did before the gov't stepped in and thought they could do it better

CkG

Well... there is more madness to my post then meets the eye.. You see, to do what I suggested above (SS end) would engender a greater degree of fiscal responsibility in the Congress in both fiscal policy and in monitoring or creating the means to monitor the typical 'investment' grade corporations. IF the future retirement of you all is dependent on this you WILL watch every move government makes and every dime they spend. Bazillions of dollars spent and put to debt will tweak the nerve or many who now are apathetic to what it means. Wars will not be so eagerly supported, it seems to me.