GOP forces new House vote on health overhaul

[sportage]

Here we go again... well kinda.

"Senate parliamentarian finds ‘2 minor provisions’ that violate budget rules"
MSNBC
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36016267/ns/politics-health_care_reform/

WASHINGTON - Senate Republicans succeeded early Thursday in forcing a change in a measure altering President Barack Obama's newly enacted health care overhaul, meaning the bill will have to return to the House for final congressional approval.

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Two minor provisions violate Congress budget rules. The provisions deal with Pell grants for low-income student.

Those two provisions will be removed from the bill, and he expected the Senate to approve the measure and send it to the House.

The measures would not alter the policy or cost of the bill and the House was expected to “easily pass” them.
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I wonder if the child abuse laws apply to senate republicans?
If not... we could just smack their naughty behinds and send them to bed without their din din.

 

[Farang]

Might as well toss in a public option

 

[Patranus]

Um. Looks like the Democrats forced another voted because they wrote a shitty piece of legislation that violated the rules.

Not really sure how you can put that on the GOP.

 

[sportage]

Hopefully... Pelosi will use her oversized gavel on a few Boehner heads this time. Whack a nut anyone?

 

[cubby1223]

^^^
interesting that you would be advocating violence against politicians

 

[sportage]

Well I didn’t necessarily mean hit them on the head.
Maybe somewhere else a bit lower, thus qualifying to join the boys choir.

 

[nick1985]

sportage, you realize in 8 months Boehner will be the speaker, right? Maybe he can hit Pelosi a few times then. Fair enough, right?

 

[zsdersw]

sportage, you realize in 8 months Boehner will be the speaker, right?

I'd love to see that not happen.. not because I think Pelosi should remain the speaker, but because I love to see armchair political experts like yourself make predictions and fail.

 

[nobodyknows]

sportage, you realize in 8 months Boehner will be the speaker, right? Maybe he can hit Pelosi a few times then. Fair enough, right?

At the rate he's going he'll be in Gitmo by then.

 

[nick1985]

I'd love to see that not happen.. not because I think Pelosi should remain the speaker, but because I love to see armchair political experts like yourself make predictions and fail.

Quote me now then. After these fall elections Pelosi is out, Boehner is in.

 

[nick1985]

At the rate he's going he'll be in Gitmo by then.

You make more and more sense everyday.

*edit*

Wasn't your pal supposed to close Gitmo? I forget

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Quote me now then. After these fall elections Pelosi is out, Boehner is in.

Quoted for posterity

Nick thinks the Rebubs pick up at least 38 seats in the house come nov :biggrin:

 

[nick1985]

Quoted for posterity

Nick thinks the Rebubs pick up at least 38 seats in the house come nov :biggrin:

I think they have a good chance.

I also think its a forgone conclusion that Harry Reid will be out of office at that time. Even if only that happens I'll be happy

 

[nobodyknows]

Might as well toss in a public option

Wouldn't that be poetic justice!!

 

[Carmen813]

Um. Looks like the Democrats forced another voted because they wrote a shitty piece of legislation that violated the rules.

Not really sure how you can put that on the GOP.

Conspiracy theory time!

The argument against a public option all along was that they didn't have 60 votes in the Senate. It might have 51.

The argument against voting for any amendment to the reconciliation act was that the House would need to take up another vote. That's unavoidable now.

Perhaps they deliberately wrote this so that the Senate could vote on a public option amendment in the reconciliation process. Then the House, which already passed a bill with a public option in it, could pass it as well.

 

[umbrella39]

sportage, you realize in 8 months Boehner will be the speaker, right?

Bookmarked.

Your side is NOT being seen in a very good light this morning after America has had a chance to listen to some of the threats being left for our senators/reps on their voice mails.

The guys/gals you think that are going to pick up seats are the ones who fueled and continue to fan these flames. All it is going to take is for one of these threats to come to fruition and you can stick a fork in the GOP in 8 months and for some time to come. It's fucking disgusting and irresponsible to continue to pander to this ever growing fringe of nutbags (some of which post here on a daily basis).

 

[Circlenaut]

God I really, REALLY hope they push the public option with this. Health care is one industry that should be socialized. Some things are better socialized, others not so much.

 

[Fingolfin269]

WTF are provisions about pell grants in a bill on health care?

 

[Lemon law]

I have to wonder about the Sportage statement , "Two minor provisions violate Congress budget rules. The provisions deal with Pell grants for low-income student.

Those two provisions will be removed from the bill, and he expected the Senate to approve the measure and send it to the House.

The measures would not alter the policy or cost of the bill and the House was expected to “easily pass” them."
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My quibble may be on the Senate side, I agree the house will likely correct the pell grant problems, but if the bill then has to go back to the Senate, there will be all kinds of room for endless delaying tactics.

But if so, I think polling will be in favor of the D's, and more and more R's will be leery about being on the wrong side of Public opinion. Make too many changes in the provisions, and the D's lose the benefits in polling.

 

[cubeless]

WTF are provisions about pell grants in a bill on health care?

pretty common sidecar stuff... the goal is to get another happy thing for some constituency... will be very odd if they really hurt themselves with this...

 

[her209]

Will the VP come in to overrule?

:hmm:

 

[woolfe9999]

Conspiracy theory time!

The argument against a public option all along was that they didn't have 60 votes in the Senate. It might have 51.

The argument against voting for any amendment to the reconciliation act was that the House would need to take up another vote. That's unavoidable now.

Perhaps they deliberately wrote this so that the Senate could vote on a public option amendment in the reconciliation process. Then the House, which already passed a bill with a public option in it, could pass it as well.

I still don't understand how the public option, which is the creation of a new program, could pass the Senate Parliamentarian as reconciliation. Perhaps if they use an existing program and simply supply funding for it. If memory serves, the Senate bill creates a non-profit option that is government regulated. Perhaps all they'd have to do is supply that with public funding and you have a public option?

- wolf

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

I seriously doubt they will push the public option at this point given the tentative swing in support for the bill as is.

 

[xj0hnx]

WTF are provisions about pell grants in a bill on health care?

Because the bill sucks so bad that they had to bribe even democrats to vote for it.

 

[Fingolfin269]

pretty common sidecar stuff... the goal is to get another happy thing for some constituency... will be very odd if they really hurt themselves with this...

Oh, I know it's common. I still don't like it.