GOP Convention Problems - No one wants to show up!

[Tab]

While excitement is building for a Democratic Party convention capped by Barack Obama?s historic acceptance speech before a sold-out, 75,000-seat football stadium, the GOP convention the following week is shaping up to be a considerably more staid affair, marked by the conspicuous absence of many of the usual convention attendees. Republicans aren?t exactly planning to avoid the convention in droves. But compared to past conventions, lawmakers, lobbyists and candidates aren?t beating a path to St. Paul either. Of the 12 Republicans running in competitive Senate races ? five of whom are incumbents ? only three have said they will be attending the convention. Six are definite no-shows, and three are on the fence. ?Nobody likes a funeral,? said a Senate Republican press secretary who spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing ?the overall climate of general malaise about the party? as the reason for hesitance on the part of Republicans.

Rest of the story here.

So, of 12 republicans running only 3 will be attending and there are 3 three other who might show up.

Is Barack the nail in the coffin for the Republican Party? It's unfortunate, as I'm sure it won't be a good thing if the democrats get a majority in congress.

The next eight years will be interesting to watch - hopefully the republican party will be able to resurrect itself.

 

[nageov3t]

Is Barack the nail in the coffin for the Republican Party?

right now, 2-4 years of unilateral democratic control of Washington is probably the best thing that could happen to the GOP, especially with the mess that's going to greet the next president.

 

[Duwelon]

You're way too optimistic about how bad the RNC will be. If you showed half as much optimism for your country you would be a lot better off.

Nobody but McCain has a snowballs chance in hell of getting the nomination on the republican side, why would anyone else show other than to say they were there?

 

[ProfJohn]

Why would you include Barack in this post??

He has NOTHING to do with the GOP problems.

Look at the polls Barack is WAY behind where he should be, if anything he is helping the GOP.

If the Dems had nominated a centrist "blue dog" Democrat they would be walking away with the White House.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Why would you include Barack in this post??

He has NOTHING to do with the GOP problems.

Look at the polls Barack is WAY behind where he should be, if anything he is helping the GOP.

If the Dems had nominated a centrist "blue dog" Democrat they would be walking away with the White House.

Your flop sweat... it tastes so sweet.....

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Why would you include Barack in this post??

He has NOTHING to do with the GOP problems.

Look at the polls Barack is WAY behind where he should be, if anything he is helping the GOP.

If the Dems had nominated a centrist "blue dog" Democrat they would be walking away with the White House.

Your flop sweat... it tastes so sweet.....

but it's true.

 

[ProfJohn]

Wow delayed repost syndrome strikes again.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Why would you include Barack in this post??

He has NOTHING to do with the GOP problems.

Look at the polls Barack is WAY behind where he should be, if anything he is helping the GOP.

If the Dems had nominated a centrist "blue dog" Democrat they would be walking away with the White House.

Your flop sweat... it tastes so sweet.....

but it's true.

in your mind...

All the old rules are out - and it's anyone's game - so game away.....

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Is Barack the nail in the coffin for the Republican Party?

right now, 2-4 years of unilateral democratic control of Washington is probably the best thing that could happen to the GOP, especially with the mess that's going to greet the next president.

Unfortunately, but I seriously doubt they'll win by that much.

 

[OrByte]

The dems didnt create the general dislike of anything republican.

The GOP only has itself to blame. I don't feel sorry for any of the party faithful...you all deserve to have your party relegated to minority/powerless status. The hype surrounding the Dem Convention only makes the GOP convention all the more pathetic.

The Dems will win a TON in november...and it will be close to a super majority.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Why would you include Barack in this post??

He has NOTHING to do with the GOP problems.

Look at the polls Barack is WAY behind where he should be, if anything he is helping the GOP.

If the Dems had nominated a centrist "blue dog" Democrat they would be walking away with the White House.

Way down?

Obama currently has the lead...

Seriously, if Hilary got the nomination or Edwards McCain might have had a chance.

 

[ProfJohn]

I am not worried at all about a Barack victory.

Last time the Democrats controlled the White House in congress it was followed by a HUGE Republican victory in the mid terms and tax cuts, welfare reform and a balanced budget pushed by a Republican congress.

Obama gets into the White House the Democrat leadership in the house pushes him to the left, like they did centrist Bill Clinton, and the American people go "WTF" and elect a bunch of Republicans in 2010.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
I am not worried at all about a Barack victory.

Last time the Democrats controlled the White House in congress it was followed by a HUGE Republican victory in the mid terms and tax cuts, welfare reform and a balanced budget pushed by a Republican congress.

Obama gets into the White House the Democrat leadership in the house pushes him to the left, like they did centrist Bill Clinton, and the American people go "WTF" and elect a bunch of Republicans in 2010.

I need a bucket for that flop sweat.....

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
I am not worried at all about a Barack victory.

Last time the Democrats controlled the White House in congress it was followed by a HUGE Republican victory in the mid terms and tax cuts, welfare reform and a balanced budget pushed by a Republican congress.

Obama gets into the White House the Democrat leadership in the house pushes him to the left, like they did centrist Bill Clinton, and the American people go "WTF" and elect a bunch of Republicans in 2010.

hehe more PJ predictions!!

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Why would you include Barack in this post??

He has NOTHING to do with the GOP problems.

Look at the polls Barack is WAY behind where he should be, if anything he is helping the GOP.

If the Dems had nominated a centrist "blue dog" Democrat they would be walking away with the White House.

Way down?

Obama currently has the lead...

Seriously, if Hilary got the nomination or Edwards McCain might have had a chance.

Are you guys really clueless or do you just play clueless on P&N??

Realclearpolitics Presidential poll average Obama +4.8
link

Generic Congressional Vote Democrats +11.8
Generic congressional ballot

So despite ALL the good coverage or Obama. The endless magazine covers: Rolling Stone, NewsWeek, Ebony etc etc etc.
Despite the HUGE media coverage of his trip to Europe, btw 200,000 people came to listen to him in Berlin.
Despite everything going in his favor he is polling 7 points behind his party.

Mike Dukakis had a 18!!!!! point lead in July 1998 link
18!!!!!!!!!!
Then: great economy, popular President, world peace and yet the Democrat led by 18!!!!!
Today: lousy economy, unpopular President, world at war and yet the Democrat leads by 4???

For the record pre-convention Dukakis had a 6 point lead., which is still better than Obama is doing.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Why would you include Barack in this post??

He has NOTHING to do with the GOP problems.

Look at the polls Barack is WAY behind where he should be, if anything he is helping the GOP.

If the Dems had nominated a centrist "blue dog" Democrat they would be walking away with the White House.

Way down?

Obama currently has the lead...

Seriously, if Hilary got the nomination or Edwards McCain might have had a chance.

Are you guys really clueless or do you just play clueless on P&N??

Realclearpolitics Presidential poll average Obama +4.8
link

Generic Congressional Vote Democrats +11.8
Generic congressional ballot

So despite ALL the good coverage or Obama. The endless magazine covers: Rolling Stone, NewsWeek, Ebony etc etc etc.
Despite the HUGE media coverage of his trip to Europe, btw 200,000 people came to listen to him in Berlin.
Despite everything going in his favor he is polling 7 points behind his party.

Mike Dukakis had a 18!!!!! point lead in July 1998 link
18!!!!!!!!!!
Then: great economy, popular President, world peace and yet the Democrat lead by 18!!!!!
Today: lousy economy, unpopular President, world at war and yet the Democrat leads by 4???

For the record pre-convention Dukakis had a 6 point lead., which is still better than Obama is doing.

Well, that seems to be the end of Obama then, and you should be relaxed over it. but somehow you're not...

Why so serious?

 

[First]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Is Barack the nail in the coffin for the Republican Party?

right now, 2-4 years of unilateral democratic control of Washington is probably the best thing that could happen to the GOP, especially with the mess that's going to greet the next president.

I think the mere fact that the Obama and the Dems are going to be following the disaster that has been the 2000-2006 Bush-Repub administration will make them look infinitely better, actually. It's not like they have to follow Lincoln or FDR, they're following one of the worst presidents and Congresses in U.S. history.

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Why would you include Barack in this post??

He has NOTHING to do with the GOP problems.

Look at the polls Barack is WAY behind where he should be, if anything he is helping the GOP.

If the Dems had nominated a centrist "blue dog" Democrat they would be walking away with the White House.

Way down?

Obama currently has the lead...

Seriously, if Hilary got the nomination or Edwards McCain might have had a chance.

Are you guys really clueless or do you just play clueless on P&N??

Realclearpolitics Presidential poll average Obama +4.8
link

Generic Congressional Vote Democrats +11.8
Generic congressional ballot

So despite ALL the good coverage or Obama. The endless magazine covers: Rolling Stone, NewsWeek, Ebony etc etc etc.
Despite the HUGE media coverage of his trip to Europe, btw 200,000 people came to listen to him in Berlin.
Despite everything going in his favor he is polling 7 points behind his party.

Mike Dukakis had a 18!!!!! point lead in July 1998 link
18!!!!!!!!!!
Then: great economy, popular President, world peace and yet the Democrat lead by 18!!!!!
Today: lousy economy, unpopular President, world at war and yet the Democrat leads by 4???

For the record pre-convention Dukakis had a 6 point lead., which is still better than Obama is doing.

Well, that seems to be the end of Obama then, and you should be relaxed over it. but somehow you're not...

Why so serious?

:thumbsup: :laugh:

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
I am not worried at all about a Barack victory.

Last time the Democrats controlled the White House in congress it was followed by a HUGE Republican victory in the mid terms and tax cuts, welfare reform and a balanced budget pushed by a Republican congress.

Obama gets into the White House the Democrat leadership in the house pushes him to the left, like they did centrist Bill Clinton, and the American people go "WTF" and elect a bunch of Republicans in 2010.

Bill was in office for 8 years, so why do you think Obama will be gone after 4? Of course, the greater problem here is your preference to see more of the same that we've already had for 8 years. But you already know that's a problem and I know you're trying to work on it.

 

[KGB]

The GOP is the victim of their own failures.

Perhaps they should've booked the convention in a phone booth.

 

[Thump553]

Interesting logic on PJ'sa part-our boy has screwed up the country so bad that we'd rather have your guy take the blame for the rebuilding. Must be pretty sad when even diehard fanboys acknowledge how miserably their party has run the country into the ground.

But back to the original topic, when was the last time the GOP convention was interesting? I don't recall any. But I'm definately tuning in to catch Cheney and Bush's speeches. Oh, and thank you again, GOP spinmeisters, for featuring those two in your convention.

 

[Lemon law]

Why all the doom and gloom, by the time the GOP opens up the dusty storerooms where they relegate their token this, token that, and token every other minority, we will hardly recognize the old gray GOP elephant that will look so much bigger. Think a red white and blue Mastodon at least.

And suddenly the GOP will have more colors than a peacock and be as fun as a barrel of monkeys.

And who know, maybe they will spike McCain's Geritol with something, and he may even look temporarily alive. Made for TV pride.

But you know its going to be exciting when Cheney opens up the spectacular with the chant of eight more years, eight more years.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: Tab

Is Barack the nail in the coffin for the Republican Party?

I doubt that Obama has had much to do with the Republican Party's current malaise. A better question might be, "Was George Bush, arguably the worst president in the nation's history, the nail in the coffin for the Republican Party"

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Originally posted by: Tab

Is Barack the nail in the coffin for the Republican Party?

I doubt that Obama has had much to do with the Republican Party's current malaise. A better question might be, "Was George Bush, arguably the worst president in the nation's history, the nail in the coffin for the Republican Party"

20-30 years from now I will be very interested in researching that theory. I am not certain if he is the worst Pres in history, but his impact when it comes to the future of the Republican Party will be something that I want to spend time looking into.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: Evan LiebI think the mere fact that the Obama and the Dems are going to be following the disaster that has been the 2000-2006 Bush-Repub administration will make them look infinitely better, actually. It's not like they have to follow Lincoln or FDR, they're following one of the worst presidents and Congresses in U.S. history.

Will it make them look better? That's hard to say. Considering all of the problems this nation faces, if they can't fix the mess they're inheriting, much of which they contributed to themselves, then the Democrats might not look so rosy. In other words, even though Bush has proven himself to be an awful president, how will the Democrats be perceived if the nation's problems worsen under their watch?