GOP candidates on what is the biggest problem in the world today

[norseamd]

Did Rand Paul really actually say that?

 

[pcgeek11]

What did the Democrat cadidates say?

Or was this a lopsided question?

 

[Bitek]

All these answers are dumb. Only Fiorinas would I agree with of it were actually happening

 

[nextJin]

Rand is talking about positive and negative rights to (what I'd imagine to be) an audience of highly religious people since al the answers are similar.

Rights aren't given to us from government they "should" just be protected by the government.

The OP says "Did Rand really just say that?" Yes, yes he did.

If Republicans have a supermajority and the presidency then decide that all liberals can no longer vote, or had to send their children to religious school every summer then your idea of where rights come from would be ill considered.

 

[justoh]

america's biggest moral threat = the world's biggest problem? Typical American arrogance (assuming op is American).

 

[MongGrel]

america's biggest moral threat = the world's biggest problem? Typical American arrogance (assuming op is American).

The thread title really is off from the question asked.

But even some of the responses to that one are a bit unnerving.

 

[JSt0rm]

damn it. God Consciousness™ sounds pretty cool.

 

[Jhhnn]

Kee-rist. That's like asking Cthulhu who's more evil than Cthulhu.

 

[trenchfoot]

Based on the thread title, the biggest problem in the world today as the Repubs see it is that they just can't seem to win the presidency any more. Well, that and the fact that Obama should have been a one term president. That failure on their part must still have their scalps itching badly.

Too bad the Repubs can't figure out a way to gerrymander and "Voter ID Law" their way into winning that election.

 

[Moonbeam]

Liberals are primarily concerned with justice and equality. Conservatives are too but to a lesser degree. However conservatives have a bunch more moral concerns that liberals do not, and this is the source of so much of our difficulties. Conservatives are worried about purity, they feel America is becoming impure. They worry about authority, that it is not being respected. They are concerned that group cohesion is breaking down, and that their teem spirit and loyalty will fail to preserve America. And so on.

A lot of these moral concerns are reflected in religion. Religions tell you what is pure and what isn't. They tell you who has authority. They tell you the true religion and the right group to belong to. They explain that the devil is going to win and some will be saved when he does.

It is a good thing to be pure, in the sense that it is good to do what makes you healthy. It is good to listen to the wiser when you are young. It is good to cultivate mentally healthy ideas and act positively in the world. It is good to work with others, to be a faithful friend, etc. But unfortunately religion has turned all of these positive aspects of life into a disease, a conviction that the faithful of the one true way are the only ones who are right. Sadly, this disease is very dangerous and will have to be treated somehow for the country to survive. The unconscious wish of the conservative mind is to see the world destroyed and we create what we fear if there is no form of intervention.

 

[alcoholbob]

Rand always says human rights are unalienable and don't come from government but from the creator (without being specific he can claim he didn't mean God but mother nature). It's his way of pandering to Christians and Libertarians at the same time.

 

[Moonbeam]

Rand always says human rights are unalienable and don't come from government but from the creator (without being specific he can claim he didn't mean God but mother nature). It's his way of pandering to Christians and Libertarians at the same time.

His or the founding fathers?

 

[trenchfoot]

Well, given what most of these Repubs answers are, as POTUS, I'd sure like to know what they're going to do about it in the way of what kinds of legislation they're going to promote, what executive actions they're going to take and just how they're going to fix this "loss of God conciousness", this "breakdown of the American family and marriage", this "losing track of where our rights come from..." and this "erosion of values" and "loss of clarity".

As president, how does one fix "loss of God conciousness" when our form of gov't is, by law, secular in nature? How, as president, can they promote religion when, by law, they are forbidden to? How are they, as president, going to fix this "breakdown in family" and oh yeah, especially "the breakdown in marriage"?

Seems to me all of this flowery rhetoric is going to miraculously vanish and get replaced by the same old agenda the Repubs have been pushing for since after WWII: Tax cuts for the rich, deregulate Wall St., Big Pharma, Big Oil, and privatize or kill every social assistance program now in existence to allow all of those big moneyed interests to get their hands on all of that gov't protected loot and scam their way into fortunes they they can only dream about at the moment.

edit- And what really gets me is these candidates talk of these values and infer that the Repub Party is the only party that stands for and shares these religious and family values when I know for a fact that most ALL Americans share in those values in one way or the another.

The only difference being that the Repubs in Congress are more than happy to legislate these values into law to force "their values" on the rest of the nation the way they see fit.

 

[UberNeuman]

 

[glenn1]

What would Democrats cite? Inequality, climate change, some other liberal boogeyman?

 

[trenchfoot]

You made me lol. I'd like to return the favor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAkXPpBnSkM

 

[Vic]

I don't know about the world, but what's wrong with America is that we're always talking about what we think is wrong. Our public discourse is dominated by fear and negativity. And a rose tinted view of the "good ol days" that ignores the fact that the kind of negativity from our political leaders that gets celebrated today was poorly tolerated by the public in the past.

 

[senseamp]

GOP is the biggest problem with America today.

 

[trenchfoot]

GOP is the biggest problem with America today.

As with all problem children that want the world to listen to them and give them every thing their little hearts desire, because they won't be given the presidency, they're having a real nasty hissy fit in the middle of Congress, threatening the nation to give them what they want or they will start breaking things and making everyone else's live miserable.

Well, as you've noticed, they're well into making good on that threat and the best way I know how to handle incorrigible obstinate spoiled brats like that is to point at them and laugh your ass off at them, and then let them exhaust themselves silly as they scream bloody murder and stomp their feet till their shins start fracturing and their vocal chords strangle themselves hoarse.

After that episode quiets down and they're left stewing in their unfulfilled demands, lock them in a dark stuffy closet and ignore them until they get ahold of themselves.

Repeat as necessary.

 

[pcgeek11]

Still haven't heard from the "other party" what they think?

 

[norseamd]

until they get ahold of themselves.

bwahahahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIQn8pab8Vc

 

[sportage]

What did the Democrat cadidates say?

Or was this a lopsided question?

Does it matter?
How bad do you want it to get?
Leave room for a tad of hope and sanity.

Republicans... U gotta love em. Or not.

 

[pcgeek11]

Does it matter?
How bad do you want it to get?
Leave room for a tad of hope and sanity.

Republicans... U gotta love em. Or not.

It matters as much as this does....

 

[thraashman]

All these answers are dumb. Only Fiorinas would I agree with of it were actually happening

Fiorina's answer is meaningless, but unlike the others it's not ragingly fucking stupid.

 

[Jhhnn]

I don't know about the world, but what's wrong with America is that we're always talking about what we think is wrong. Our public discourse is dominated by fear and negativity. And a rose tinted view of the "good ol days" that ignores the fact that the kind of negativity from our political leaders that gets celebrated today was poorly tolerated by the public in the past.

I think a lot of it started way back when an idolized former screen star turned politician said that government is the problem. It's led to some extreme contradictions in people's headsets.

Those who rave about how this is the greatest nation on earth are the first to rave about how our govt isn't worth a shit while being so intellectually shallow as to not realize that both can't be true at the same time.