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GOP aims to savage MoveOn.org

conjur

No Lifer
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/GOP_aims_to_savage_MoveOn._0711.html
From top White House operative Karl Rove to two of the party campaign committees, Republicans have launched a full-scale attack on MoveOn.org, questioning the liberal group?s patriotism and worldview, Roll Call reports in Monday editions. An example of this campaign can be found at the Drudge Report, which claimed Sunday evening to have obtained "exclusive" details about a MoveOn event instructing members not to wear 'Bush Liar' t-shirts. Excerpts follow (paid restricted article here).
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These attacks appear to have two purposes: One is to put the group and its Democratic allies on the defensive over support for the war on terror. And the second is to drive a wedge between Democratic candidates and the millions of dollars that MoveOn?s supporters have pumped into their campaigns.

With MoveOn fast becoming one of the Democratic Party?s most important fundraising sources, the second goal may end up being the more important one.

The 2006 Pennsylvania Senate race provides a window into the developing battle over MoveOn.org.

State Treasurer Bob Casey Jr. (D) was featured recently in a MoveOn e-mail designed to drive donors to support his challenge to Sen. Rick Santorum (R). Within the first 24 hours, the appeal brought in $150,000 for the Casey campaign.

But the National Republican Senatorial Committee immediately went on the offensive with a release titled, ?Casey Moves In With MoveOn,? alleging that the group?s e-mail on behalf of Casey shows how closely he is aligned with the ?ultra-liberal left.?

John Brabender, Santorum?s media consultant, predicted that if Casey continues to accept MoveOn money, he will have to answer for the group?s controversial policies, which include opposing military intervention in Afghanistan.

?You can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep,? Brabender said. A group like MoveOn ?will have a lot of trouble in Pennsylvania, particularly in the middle part of the state. The group will be hung around Bobby Casey?s neck.?
The GOP is feeling cornered by its repeated failures, ethics problems, and downright criminal activity. They're lashing out like a cornered and wounded predator and are now going to stoop to no low to protect their majority in the Senate. Here comes the '06 version of the '02 elections questioning the "patriotism" of liberals.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/GOP_aims_to_savage_MoveOn._0711.html
From top White House operative Karl Rove to two of the party campaign committees, Republicans have launched a full-scale attack on MoveOn.org, questioning the liberal group?s patriotism and worldview, Roll Call reports in Monday editions. An example of this campaign can be found at the Drudge Report, which claimed Sunday evening to have obtained "exclusive" details about a MoveOn event instructing members not to wear 'Bush Liar' t-shirts. Excerpts follow (paid restricted article here).
#

These attacks appear to have two purposes: One is to put the group and its Democratic allies on the defensive over support for the war on terror. And the second is to drive a wedge between Democratic candidates and the millions of dollars that MoveOn?s supporters have pumped into their campaigns.

With MoveOn fast becoming one of the Democratic Party?s most important fundraising sources, the second goal may end up being the more important one.

The 2006 Pennsylvania Senate race provides a window into the developing battle over MoveOn.org.

State Treasurer Bob Casey Jr. (D) was featured recently in a MoveOn e-mail designed to drive donors to support his challenge to Sen. Rick Santorum (R). Within the first 24 hours, the appeal brought in $150,000 for the Casey campaign.

But the National Republican Senatorial Committee immediately went on the offensive with a release titled, ?Casey Moves In With MoveOn,? alleging that the group?s e-mail on behalf of Casey shows how closely he is aligned with the ?ultra-liberal left.?

John Brabender, Santorum?s media consultant, predicted that if Casey continues to accept MoveOn money, he will have to answer for the group?s controversial policies, which include opposing military intervention in Afghanistan.

?You can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep,? Brabender said. A group like MoveOn ?will have a lot of trouble in Pennsylvania, particularly in the middle part of the state. The group will be hung around Bobby Casey?s neck.?
The GOP is feeling cornered by its repeated failures, ethics problems, and downright criminal activity. They're lashing out like a cornered and wounded predator and are now going to stoop to no low to protect their majority in the Senate. Here comes the '06 version of the '02 elections questioning the "patriotism" of liberals.

big suprise - rove using any means necessary to get the job done. he's a poor excuse for a moral being and serves only to further his party while completely ignoring the welfare of the country. lots of people are guilty of this in the gov't but rove has lowered the bar even further....
 
You telling us those mudslingers cant take care of themselves?

Should we feel sorry for Moveon.org?
Or should we feel sorry the democrats are relegated to having to associated with an outfit like that to fundraise?
 
Originally posted by: zendari
Stoop to no low? You can't stoop any lower than the anti-Americans at moveon.org!

Like you even know what they represent beyond what your GOP talking points tell you. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: zendari
Stoop to no low? You can't stoop any lower than the anti-Americans at moveon.org!

Like you even know what they represent beyond what your GOP talking points tell you. :roll:

I saw them at the opening of that movie about global warming causing an ice age in 36 hours.

 
Originally posted by: Genx87
You telling us those mudslingers cant take care of themselves?

Should we feel sorry for Moveon.org?
Or should we feel sorry the democrats are relegated to having to associated with an outfit like that to fundraise?

Originally posted by: zendari
Stoop to no low? You can't stoop any lower than the anti-Americans at moveon.org!

I have seen flat out lies on www.heritage.org. That is anti-american.

Moveon.org is just voicing their opionions and that is protected by the first admendment.

But you people will never say your party is wrong.


 
Originally posted by: outriding
Originally posted by: Genx87
You telling us those mudslingers cant take care of themselves?

Should we feel sorry for Moveon.org?
Or should we feel sorry the democrats are relegated to having to associated with an outfit like that to fundraise?

Originally posted by: zendari
Stoop to no low? You can't stoop any lower than the anti-Americans at moveon.org!

I have seen flat out lies on www.heritage.org. That is anti-american.

Moveon.org is just voicing their opionions and that is protected by the first admendment.

But you people will never say your party is wrong.

Oh I see opinions cant be lies.

I really enjoyed the expose they did about Bush being Hitler. I am sure as Jon Stewert put it "Hitler was pissed".



 
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: zendari
Stoop to no low? You can't stoop any lower than the anti-Americans at moveon.org!

Like you even know what they represent beyond what your GOP talking points tell you. :roll:
They tried to ruin the Super Bowl last year.
 
I don't think the GOP is concerned about anything the opposition is doing. They are just taking a preemptive strike to hit the dem's strength. Rove understands that the masses in America are not terribly informed and lovers of labels and sound bites. Take a good look at the responses you have gotten - Moveon.org is Anti-American and Mudslingers.
The GOP has been throwing sh*t around and all the faithful see is the opponent?s mud. Hell, when I have mentioned in various forums that dems need to take a "fight fire with fire" approach, the responses have largely been "we are above all that". An unrealistic attitude for politics IMHO.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: outriding
Originally posted by: Genx87
You telling us those mudslingers cant take care of themselves?

Should we feel sorry for Moveon.org?
Or should we feel sorry the democrats are relegated to having to associated with an outfit like that to fundraise?

Originally posted by: zendari
Stoop to no low? You can't stoop any lower than the anti-Americans at moveon.org!

I have seen flat out lies on www.heritage.org. That is anti-american.

Moveon.org is just voicing their opionions and that is protected by the first admendment.

But you people will never say your party is wrong.

Oh I see opinions cant be lies.

I really enjoyed the expose they did about Bush being Hitler. I am sure as Jon Stewert put it "Hitler was pissed".

the U.S. has run a trade deficit for most of its history, even during periods of economic growth

www.heritage.org

Do you see the problem.

If you have a half a brain you can see the differences between bush and hitler.

But the hertiage.org you really have to know econ to know what they are talking about. and even people with a brain will not know that.

BTW Jon Stewart runs a fake news show and if you cannot figure that out then you are really sad.





 
Originally posted by: outriding
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: outriding
Originally posted by: Genx87
You telling us those mudslingers cant take care of themselves?

Should we feel sorry for Moveon.org?
Or should we feel sorry the democrats are relegated to having to associated with an outfit like that to fundraise?

Originally posted by: zendari
Stoop to no low? You can't stoop any lower than the anti-Americans at moveon.org!

I have seen flat out lies on www.heritage.org. That is anti-american.

Moveon.org is just voicing their opionions and that is protected by the first admendment.

But you people will never say your party is wrong.

Oh I see opinions cant be lies.

I really enjoyed the expose they did about Bush being Hitler. I am sure as Jon Stewert put it "Hitler was pissed".

the U.S. has run a trade deficit for most of its history, even during periods of economic growth

www.heritage.org

Do you see the problem.

If you have a half a brain you can see the differences between bush and hitler.

But the hertiage.org you really have to know econ to know what they are talking about. and even people with a brain will not know that.

BTW Jon Stewart runs a fake news show and if you cannot figure that out then you are really sad.

I didnt see you bringing any information to disprove it. Should we take your word heritage is wrong?

The Jon Stwerat comment was more a jab at the left here. They have moved him from fake news comedian to a legitimate political source.


 
Why is this even remotely shocking. This is politics.

MoveOn has spent the last two years trying to beat up on Bush. What is wrong with Bush throwing a bit back their way? I guess the left can only dish it out, but when paybacks come, they cry about it.

Sad. If MoveOn can't even play at the base level of politics, they have some serious problems in front of them.
 
Where are all the left's political geniuses? Can't they call on all those college professors who couldn't succeed in the real world?
 
Originally posted by: zendari
Where are all the left's political geniuses? Can't they call on all those college professors who couldn't succeed in the real world?

clinton was a political genius however it's hard to beat out pure evil (rove). college professors who couldn't succeed in the real world? a lot of college professors i had did very well in the "real world" and later in life returned to academia to give back some of the experience and knowledge they gained.
 
Originally posted by: irwincur
Why is this even remotely shocking. This is politics.

MoveOn has spent the last two years trying to beat up on Bush. What is wrong with Bush throwing a bit back their way? I guess the left can only dish it out, but when paybacks come, they cry about it.

Sad. If MoveOn can't even play at the base level of politics, they have some serious problems in front of them.
This isn't fighting against an ideology. It's fighting against one organization in attempt to smear it to reduce the amount of money raised and to stigmatize association with the group with being unpatriotic and "ultra-liberal". This is taking the 90s GOP and it's denegrating of the "L" word to even greater extremes.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: outriding
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: outriding
Originally posted by: Genx87
You telling us those mudslingers cant take care of themselves?

Should we feel sorry for Moveon.org?
Or should we feel sorry the democrats are relegated to having to associated with an outfit like that to fundraise?

Originally posted by: zendari
Stoop to no low? You can't stoop any lower than the anti-Americans at moveon.org!

I have seen flat out lies on www.heritage.org. That is anti-american.

Moveon.org is just voicing their opionions and that is protected by the first admendment.

But you people will never say your party is wrong.

Oh I see opinions cant be lies.

I really enjoyed the expose they did about Bush being Hitler. I am sure as Jon Stewert put it "Hitler was pissed".

the U.S. has run a trade deficit for most of its history, even during periods of economic growth

www.heritage.org

Do you see the problem.

If you have a half a brain you can see the differences between bush and hitler.

But the hertiage.org you really have to know econ to know what they are talking about. and even people with a brain will not know that.

BTW Jon Stewart runs a fake news show and if you cannot figure that out then you are really sad.

I didnt see you bringing any information to disprove it. Should we take your word heritage is wrong?

The Jon Stwerat comment was more a jab at the left here. They have moved him from fake news comedian to a legitimate political source.


link
 
Originally posted by: Genx87

Oh I see opinions cant be lies.

I really enjoyed the expose they did about Bush being Hitler. I am sure as Jon Stewert put it "Hitler was pissed".

I'm sorry....but I am 100% positive that the "Hitler" comparison was NOT done, condoned or supported by Moveon.org. It was an INDEPENDANT submission in a commercial contest. But I'm sure that you know that GenX.

Why don't you show evidence that Moveon.org ran any other comparison that called Bush Hitler or STFU until you get a clue as to what you are talking about.

Originally posted by: Zendari

They tried to ruin the Super Bowl last year.

Just HOW did they try to ruin the Super Bowl? By being upset that an advertisement that they wanted to legally pay for was not allowed to be run? Or are you more worried about the content of the ad? Do you have a clue either as to the content of the ad? The ad was a spot that showed small children working in jobs that ran with a caption at the end that thanks to the Bush admin fiscal policies, these children would have to pay back the deficits that this administration and Republican-run Congress are building up. Care to dispute the validity of that Zendari? Is it the ad or the truth what would "ruin" your reality?
 
Originally posted by: outriding
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: outriding
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: outriding
Originally posted by: Genx87
You telling us those mudslingers cant take care of themselves?

Should we feel sorry for Moveon.org?
Or should we feel sorry the democrats are relegated to having to associated with an outfit like that to fundraise?

Originally posted by: zendari
Stoop to no low? You can't stoop any lower than the anti-Americans at moveon.org!

I have seen flat out lies on www.heritage.org. That is anti-american.

Moveon.org is just voicing their opionions and that is protected by the first admendment.

But you people will never say your party is wrong.

Oh I see opinions cant be lies.

I really enjoyed the expose they did about Bush being Hitler. I am sure as Jon Stewert put it "Hitler was pissed".

the U.S. has run a trade deficit for most of its history, even during periods of economic growth

www.heritage.org

Do you see the problem.

If you have a half a brain you can see the differences between bush and hitler.

But the hertiage.org you really have to know econ to know what they are talking about. and even people with a brain will not know that.

BTW Jon Stewart runs a fake news show and if you cannot figure that out then you are really sad.

I didnt see you bringing any information to disprove it. Should we take your word heritage is wrong?

The Jon Stwerat comment was more a jab at the left here. They have moved him from fake news comedian to a legitimate political source.


link


His data goes back to 1974.


 
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: Genx87

Oh I see opinions cant be lies.

I really enjoyed the expose they did about Bush being Hitler. I am sure as Jon Stewert put it "Hitler was pissed".

I'm sorry....but I am 100% positive that the "Hitler" comparison was NOT done, condoned or supported by Moveon.org. It was an INDEPENDANT submission in a commercial contest. But I'm sure that you know that GenX.

I'm not familiar with this issue, but was the commercial or whatever hosted on moveon.org servers or at least linked to from their web page?

 
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: Genx87

Oh I see opinions cant be lies.

I really enjoyed the expose they did about Bush being Hitler. I am sure as Jon Stewert put it "Hitler was pissed".

I'm sorry....but I am 100% positive that the "Hitler" comparison was NOT done, condoned or supported by Moveon.org. It was an INDEPENDANT submission in a commercial contest. But I'm sure that you know that GenX.

I'm not familiar with this issue, but was the commercial or whatever hosted on moveon.org servers or at least linked to from their web page?
It was hosted on their servers. Supposedly they removed it, yet some months later someone on a right-wing blog showed it was still there being hosted, if you knew the proper URL. It took about 4 hours for that to be changed and for the file to disappear again.
 
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: Genx87

Oh I see opinions cant be lies.

I really enjoyed the expose they did about Bush being Hitler. I am sure as Jon Stewert put it "Hitler was pissed".

I'm sorry....but I am 100% positive that the "Hitler" comparison was NOT done, condoned or supported by Moveon.org. It was an INDEPENDANT submission in a commercial contest. But I'm sure that you know that GenX.

Why don't you show evidence that Moveon.org ran any other comparison that called Bush Hitler or STFU until you get a clue as to what you are talking about.

Originally posted by: Zendari

They tried to ruin the Super Bowl last year.

Just HOW did they try to ruin the Super Bowl? By being upset that an advertisement that they wanted to legally pay for was not allowed to be run? Or are you more worried about the content of the ad? Do you have a clue either as to the content of the ad? The ad was a spot that showed small children working in jobs that ran with a caption at the end that thanks to the Bush admin fiscal policies, these children would have to pay back the deficits that this administration and Republican-run Congress are building up. Care to dispute the validity of that Zendari? Is it the ad or the truth what would "ruin" your reality?

Poor CBS, for refusing to air an add that would insult and turn off half of their viewers! You typically have little to gain and a lot to use by siding with the radical leftists. But I guess the Janet Jackson incident took its place and screwed CBS over.

The defecits as a % of the GDP aren't as bad as the Dems claim. If you want to see the truth about who is robbing our children look at the social security looters.

Only the Dems and their blind followers would attempt to destroy what is supposed to be a simple fun evening for the family to spend time together and enjoy for their misguided agenda.
 
You know children do this kind of thing. They gang up on the kid who is most likely to tell the truth when the parents start asking questions.

Silencing dissent is a childish, and treasonous effort.
 
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