Google/Verizon. The end of the internet as we know it.

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spidey07

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Damn it's even worst then expected. If they get this the internet won't exist anymore.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-aaron/google-verizon-pact-it-ge_b_676194.html

Yet another in a long line of bloggers who totally don't understand the issue whatsoever and resort to fear mongering, "omg! It's the end of the Internet!" It's very obvious he doesn't know a thing about that which he is blathering on about.

No, it's the advancement and the beginning of a much, much, much BETTER Internet.
 

dmcowen674

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev
I continue to see nothing wrong with this model.


Say your local "hub" of ISP consumers contains 1000 users. Google has paid your ISP to add specific QoS priorities for YouTube. The routing capability available to your "hub" is limited. You want to watch a video on a random site. The other 999 users want to watch a video on YouTube. Their packets are going to get prioritized over yours (yes, QoS does mean prioritizing packets). With heavy usage, your local "hub" is going to saturate its entire allocated routing capability, meaning not everyone is going to get their packets as fast as possible. The QoS rules are going to route the YouTube packets more quickly than your random site packets. It probably won't be anything as dramatic as a 5 minute wait to buffer your video, but it's going to negatively impact your experience on sites that didn't pay your ISP, if ISP's network is near capacity.

Josh, your attempt at educating the uneducatable was admirable but you may as well have pounded your head against a brick wall for the same result.
 

spidey07

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All you tinfoil hat wearers should rejoice at this. I just read the google/verizon Joint Submission both sides agree there is the potential for abuse, but that said abuse of QoS should be stopped and fined. Best of both worlds and what I've been saying for years. Those in the know about networking know what can be done to advance The Internet and it needs to be done to have quality voice/video/data over The Internet. Without it we are stuck with what we have today.

D.
Google and Verizon agree that the focus of any nondiscrimination rule should be to
prevent harm to users or to competition


With respect to traditional Internet access services, the parties agree that differential
treatment of Internet traffic by network operators may be either beneficial or harmful to users.

Particular practices could be acceptable or unacceptable discrimination, depending on their effect
on competition and on users. While we do not necessarily agree on which side of the line
various practices may fall, we do agree that such practices should be evaluated on a case-by-case
basis
.

In other words do no harm to user traffic and prevent anti-competitive behavior, but allow QoS and a DiffServ model. This is a WIN/WIN for everybody.
 

13Gigatons

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I just don't trust them.

They have been overcharging for years for text messages on cell phones. I'm guessing they now want to sneak in that type of profit making into the internet as well.
 

spidey07

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I just don't trust them.

They have been overcharging for years for text messages on cell phones. I'm guessing they now want to sneak in that type of profit making into the internet as well.

And my guess is you still pay that price? The business of business us to make more money.