Google to kill ad-blocking in Chrome?

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rh71

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Used to use Opera until Chrome came into play more lightweight and faster. Now I'm trying Opera again and it's great they import all the bookmarks easily, etc. But I notice you can't modify mouse gesture behavior anymore. Mouse down for a new tab is just wack. Mouse up does nothing. Just wrong... all wrong.
 
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Captante

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Used to use Opera until Chrome came into play more lightweight and faster. Now I'm trying Opera again and it's great they import all the bookmarks easily, etc. But I notice you can't modify mouse gesture behavior anymore. Mouse down for a new tab is just wack. Mouse up does nothing. Just wrong... all wrong.


Give the Vivaldi browser a try if you like Opera. (original Opera engine/dev's)
 
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Will Chromium be allowed to use adblockers?

I doubt they'd block that there, but could be interesting. I'm not sure Microsoft would throw much a fit over that but they might.

I'm not even sure what this exactly means, as I don't think its exactly what is being said (them banning ad-blockers). This seems to be some change to other aspects (the way Chrome handles extensions) which will make ad-blockers as they currently are being done less effective. I don't know if that means much (what's to stop a developer from paying the enterprise license?). This reminds me of the doom that supposedly was going to happen when Firefox changed their extension setup, but it ended up not being that meaningful (for my stuff at least), while it included better built-in security/privacy features (which Google is also touting as part of this change).

Which, I was already switching back to Firefox for a lot of things, and I'll look for alternatives for what I was using Chrome for.
 

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I doubt they'd block that there, but could be interesting. I'm not sure Microsoft would throw much a fit over that but they might.

I'm not even sure what this exactly means, as I don't think its exactly what is being said (them banning ad-blockers). This seems to be some change to other aspects (the way Chrome handles extensions) which will make ad-blockers as they currently are being done less effective. I don't know if that means much (what's to stop a developer from paying the enterprise license?). This reminds me of the doom that supposedly was going to happen when Firefox changed their extension setup, but it ended up not being that meaningful (for my stuff at least), while it included better built-in security/privacy features (which Google is also touting as part of this change).

Which, I was already switching back to Firefox for a lot of things, and I'll look for alternatives for what I was using Chrome for.
Thanks for your input. I only have Chrome installed because a few sites I occasionally use don't won't with Firefox, my add-ons or the way I have it set up. I also have used a couple of chrome apps for quadcopter setup. I'm hoping I can get Chromium working for my needs. I also hope this doesn't mean devs will start charging for adblockers if they have to start paying for an enterprise license.
 

Number1

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Big Chrome fan here, switched to Opera a few weeks ago. What a difference. Built in VPN, add blocker, unbelievable.
 

OccamsToothbrush

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The second this update goes live im switching to FF.

Sorry to break this to you idiots at google but the internet is not usable without adblocking, its a shitty situation but thats the reality of it.

You feel that way, I feel that way and most people here feel that way. But the majority of people are either too stupid or too lazy to use ad blockers. Ads are the primary revenue stream for a lot of really rich companies like Google and Facebook. There are a lot of people looking at a lot of ads because they don't know any better. While this is enough to make any intelligent, tech-savvy person dump Chrome it's not going to be a big deal for Google. We're a small minority.
 

Red Squirrel

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I'm amazed there's even that many people using Chrome. You'd think the type of people that are savvy enough to stop using IE and install an alternative would be savvy enough to use a real browser and not one owned by a spy company.
 

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I'm amazed there's even that many people using Chrome. You'd think the type of people that are savvy enough to stop using IE and install an alternative would be savvy enough to use a real browser and not one owned by a spy company.

I use chrome for everything, spying is irrelevant as I assume everything is spying. I assume work knows everything I do on my phone, I assume my isp knows everything I do at home, I assume Goolge knows everywhere I go and everything I say, I assume Samsung knows everything I watch on my TV and I assume some hacker knows all my personal information. Privacy is dead.

All that being said the internet would be unusable with Ads so I will block them at the router level if ad block goes away.
 
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Number1

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I'm amazed there's even that many people using Chrome. You'd think the type of people that are savvy enough to stop using IE and install an alternative would be savvy enough to use a real browser and not one owned by a spy company.
How about Opera smart guy? I just switched from Chrome, wow I am impressed.
 

lxskllr

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Opera is fine too. Though it seems that one is kind of loosing traction these days. I remember before Chrome came out there was a decent split between Opera and Firefox.
I think your memory is faulty. I don't think Opera ever reached 10% of users, while firefox hit ~35% at its peak.

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Opera has never gotten to 3%(worse than I remembered), and firefox peaked at 30% according to wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
 

Ken g6

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This has caused me to look into Firefox again. I discovered that I can install basically the same extensions on Firefox on my phone as on my desktop. So now my phone has ScriptSafe. :) (Because I like it better than NoScript.)
 

UsandThem

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This has caused me to look into Firefox again. I discovered that I can install basically the same extensions on Firefox on my phone as on my desktop. So now my phone has ScriptSafe. :) (Because I like it better than NoScript.)

That's what I have been playing around with for the last week or so. I always used Firefox up until 5-6 years ago, but after a big overhaul, they had issues with Norton extensions for well over a year, so I switched over to Chrome after getting fed up. In hindsight, I think the issue should have been placed on Norton, but I used their password extension for at least a decade, and I didn't want to transfer them over to another program. In the last year or two, Norton killed their old "password vault" extension off, so I was forced to do it anyways.

So far the nicest thing I notice with Firefox with an ad-blocker installed is most sites don't block their content until I disable it. I can read sites like TweakTown, Forbes, and USA Today just fine (which I couldn't do in Chrome).
 

ultimatebob

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The day that ad blockers stop working in Chrome will be the day I switch to Firefox as my primary browser.

That said, Google probably already knows that there are millions of people who think the same way I do, and will not remove Ad Blocker support for that very reason. At least they can track my browsing behavior if I continue to use Chrome, even if it is more difficult to profit off of that data with ad blocking turned on. They can still "get" me with targeted text ads in my Google search results and with GMail text ads, anyway.

If I switch to Firefox, my "Do Not Track" requests will actually get enforced at the browser level, and they lose a lot of good data collection on me. Who knows, I might even switch to Duck Duck Go as my default search engine... nah :)
 
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Captante

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The day that ad blockers stop working in Chrome will be the day I switch to Firefox as my primary browser.

That said, Google probably already knows that there are millions of people who think the same way I do, and will not remove Ad Blocker support for that very reason. At least they can track my browsing behavior if I continue to use Chrome, even if it is more difficult to profit off of that data with ad blocking turned on. They can still "get" me with targeted text ads in my Google search results and with GMail text ads, anyway.

If I switch to Firefox, my "Do Not Track" requests will actually get enforced at the browser level, and they lose a lot of good data collection on me. Who knows, I might even switch to Duck Duck Go as my default search engine... nah :)



My thoughts exactly although I prefer Startpage to DDG for privacy.

And until they can figure out a secure way to host advertising ... one which doesn't pop up in my face every 5 minutes (!!!) :mad: this is the only smart choice.
 

UsandThem

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I tried out the Opera browser based on several users mentioning it here. However, I had two concerns about it, so I uninstalled it after using it for a couple of days.

First off, it seems to work pretty good, and I had no issues browsing various sites. The bad: When first installing it, it asked what I wanted to import from my other browser. I specifically unchecked saved passwords, but it did so anyways. After seeing that, I wanted to see who owned it, and it appears it was purchased by a group of Chinese investors in 2016. So after those two things, I uninstalled it.
 

BudAshes

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I tried out the Opera browser based on several users mentioning it here. However, I had two concerns about it, so I uninstalled it after using it for a couple of days.

First off, it seems to work pretty good, and I had no issues browsing various sites. The bad: When first installing it, it asked what I wanted to import from my other browser. I specifically unchecked saved passwords, but it did so anyways. After seeing that, I wanted to see who owned it, and it appears it was purchased by a group of Chinese investors in 2016. So after those two things, I uninstalled it.

Try using https://brave.com/. it's basically chrome(chromium based) with scripts and ads blocked by default, no extensions needed. That being said the browser may collapse at some point as their business model may fail, but in the meantime it's pretty sweet.
 
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nakedfrog

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I'm amazed there's even that many people using Chrome. You'd think the type of people that are savvy enough to stop using IE and install an alternative would be savvy enough to use a real browser and not one owned by a spy company.
You didn't know Chrome now has a crushingly huge market share?