Discussion Google Tensor SoC thread

[mvprod123]

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1966189210450493736

 

[511]

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1966189210450493736

Object Remover Photo Filter using SME if I am not wrong

 

[CouncilorIrissa]

Object Remover Photo Filter using SME if I am not wrong

Nope, these aren't. Photo Library, Object Detection and Background Blur do.

 

[511]

Nope, these aren't. Photo Library, Object Detection and Background Blur do.

They haven't given any data xDd. You are right it doesn't do anything

 

[DZero]

So... Tensor G5 is a hog... if somehow Kirin 9030 manages to beat Tensor G5, Google is totally screwed.

 

[lopri]

The chip is really a disappointment based on my Pixel 10 Pro use. Taking pictures, it feels like I time traveled to the days of Nexus 5X. Granted the resulting photos are of higher quality (if you are steady enough), but the shutter lag is just as bad. It is embarrassing.

Even simple things like manipulating wallpaper makes me feel like the phone is frozen at times, due to the time it takes to apply whatever the effect that is selected.

I do not understand why no reviewers saw fit to mention any of these. I mean, cameras are supposed to be Pixel's strength. Am I the only one experiencing camera lag?

 

[MarkizSchnitzel]

I tried my colleagues 10 Pro XL and it's definitely slow.
He did not see it.

But, he did get rid of it due to font scaling

 

[sze5003]

Funny to read about the camera being slow. That's what pixels kind of stand out for, taking good pics of anything that may be in motion.

Is it slow to process the image after or is the shutter slow?

That's the one thing I don't like about the S25 ultra and I am debating waiting to see if they did improve camera at all on the S26 ultra otherwise for the first time ever I may try an iphone just to see if I can deal with it.

I've been waiting to go back to Pixels after being on Samsung for a while but not at the cost of battery life and other shortcomings. Was hoping google finally got it right with the 10th generation.

 

[DZero]

Funny to read about the camera being slow. That's what pixels kind of stand out for, taking good pics of anything that may be in motion.

Is it slow to process the image after or is the shutter slow?

That's the one thing I don't like about the S25 ultra and I am debating waiting to see if they did improve camera at all on the S26 ultra otherwise for the first time ever I may try an iphone just to see if I can deal with it.

I've been waiting to go back to Pixels after being on Samsung for a while but not at the cost of battery life and other shortcomings. Was hoping google finally got it right with the 10th generation.

CPU wise they did it, GPU wise IS the issue. They went to an unsupported provider like Imagination (imagine being in that situation that some games does not support your GPU!)

Google has to make Imagination work, or the situation will end badly

 

[Tup3x]

GPU performance is pants and their CPU performance is about half what other flagships can do (also throttles pretty badly). This chip would be okay in <500 € phones but they are asking 2x more.

 

[DZero]

Is to think how Google, having all the process in their favor has to screw very hard with it.

If Huawei with the process against it, manages to pull a decent chip is a brutal hit for Google.

 

[regen1]

Tested: Google’s new GPU is a disaster for Pixel 10 game emulation

The Pixel 10’s new Tensor G5 GPU should’ve been an upgrade, but emulation tests show worrying performance drops and slower frame rates than last year.

www.androidauthority.com

 

[hemedans]

Tested: Google’s new GPU is a disaster for Pixel 10 game emulation

The Pixel 10’s new Tensor G5 GPU should’ve been an upgrade, but emulation tests show worrying performance drops and slower frame rates than last year.

www.androidauthority.com

Ps2 and wii isn't even heavy emulation nowadays, most lowend can Emulate them full speed and even upscale them.

 

[coercitiv]

But, he did get rid of it due to font scaling

The font scaling issue is a weird and major UX fail. After launch I was watching the pixel reddit and the most funny posts were about font scaling issues and the AI zoom feature which produced comical effects in some cases.

The not so funny part is Google is the asking price for Pixel 10 (and previously the 9). We have reached a point when the iPhone 17 is better value in terms of hardware for the money. (granted Pixels depreciate with the speed of light)

 

[Doug S]

The font scaling issue is a weird and major UX fail. After launch I was watching the pixel reddit and the most funny posts were about font scaling issues and the AI zoom feature which produced comical effects in some cases.

The not so funny part is Google is the asking price for Pixel 10 (and previously the 9). We have reached a point when the iPhone 17 is better value in terms of hardware for the money. (granted Pixels depreciate with the speed of light)

The only reason anyone buys a Pixel is because they want generic Android without vendor crap, and to get timely security fixes. Does anyone really buy it for the TPU? It has been a terrible value since Google stopped pricing it as the midrange phone it is and decided it deserved flagship pricing.

 

[LightningZ71]

I concur. I'm using a regular Pixel 8 right now and waited until it was discounted to around $399-$499 to buy in. My kids got 8a models when they went even cheaper. At those prices, they aren't bad buys. I expect that they will be usable for 3-4 years and will get replaced at that point. I have no real interest in any of the higher end models and won't be looking at upgrading again with any seriousness until the Pixel 11 generation has been out for at least half a year.

 

[moinmoin]

The only reason anyone buys a Pixel is because they want generic Android without vendor crap, and to get timely security fixes.

Phones with support for LineageOS and the likes are better for that purpose.

 

[Doug S]

Phones with support for LineageOS and the likes are better for that purpose.

That's extra work to set up and since the security chain of trust is broken NFC payments and banking apps won't work.

 

[moinmoin]

That's extra work to set up and since the security chain of trust is broken NFC payments and banking apps won't work.

That extra work is less and shorter than setting up Windows on a PC. Fair enough about NFC payments though. (Not sure what you mean with backing apps however, my one just works fine here.)

 

[misuspita]

I won't ever buy a phone that doesn't do banking NFC. Plus, when Huawei is better than you, go home Google. Buy some Mediatek or Qualcomm and shut the CPU division

 

[coercitiv]

I won't ever buy a phone that doesn't do banking NFC.

What are you talking about?

 

[ToTTenTranz]

I won't ever buy a phone that doesn't do banking NFC. Plus, when Huawei is better than you, go home Google. Buy some Mediatek or Qualcomm and shut the CPU division

My Pixel 7 Pro does banking NFC just fine.

 

[StinkyPinky]

My 10 Pro XL does NFC banking perfectly fine also.

Honestly, I haven't noticed any lag or slowdown on the phone at all. It's snappy in everything I use it for. Then again, I don't play games.

My main concern is the efficiency not the performance.

 

[MarkizSchnitzel]

You have LineageOS?
It used to be that some banks did not work on phones with custom ROMs and/or rooted.

 

[Doug S]

My Pixel 7 Pro does banking NFC just fine.

He's talking about phones that have had generic Android installed on them over the vendor install. The Pixel does it fine because its Android is the vendor Android. If you replaced it with Lineage or any other generic Android install you'd find Android Pay no longer works, as well as a number of banking/financial apps.