GOOGLE = SPYWARE ?!?!

[milagro]

food for thought

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Sounds like yet another paranoid anti-establishment rant to me. I will give up Google when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers!

 

[illusion88]

They claim to have evidence... Where is it?

 

[gopunk]

1. google is not a federal website
2. so does just about every other site.... the geolocation stuff probably results in better searches anyways
3. same for all other sites
4. that's because it was a dumb question
5. okay...
6. right, so if you are illiterate and/or blind and can't read their prominent notice of this (and it is prominent), you should be scared
7. i care
8. and what, this is bad? i don't want a search engine that people can manipulate
9. okay.

whoever wrote that list needs to lay off the crack

 

[milagro]

not sure...but do you really think its NOT true? I mean you would think they would need to collect that info anyways to make their engine more efficient. Just not something most people would think of though... on their main site it looks like they have a google proxy that can be used instead...

 

[HEMIFREAK]

how to "opt out" on google's tracking

 

[m2kewl]

i think it's probably true. you need to remember the nsa doesn't discriminate - it spies on everything.

 

[Soybomb]

I believe google has servers in multiple pops. This makes "geolocation" very useful for very legitimate means. Which server are you closest to?

" Google wants to hire more people with security clearances, so that they can peddle their corporate assets to the spooks in Washington." How dare they hire qualified people to try and make money!!

"Surfers like the cache, but webmasters don't." I wish this freak would speak for themselves. If questionable content is deleted from my servers and I'm no longer hosting it, I don't care who else has it as they're now legally responsible for it. Googles cache offers way more useful purposes than harmful and as I have no problem with it at all and infact welcome it.

"No webmaster can avoid seeking Google's approval these days, assuming he wants to increase traffic to his site. If he tries to take advantage of some of the known weaknesses in Google's semi-secret algorithms, he may find himself penalized by Google, and his traffic disappears." I'm paranoid but still want to submit my site to the search engine anyone since most people aren't as crazy as I am. I tried to cheat the system but they busted me and smacked be down. The nerve.

"With 150 million searches per day, most from outside the U.S., Google amounts to a privacy disaster waiting to happen. Those newly-commissioned data-mining bureaucrats in Washington can only dream about the sort of slick efficiency that Google has already achieved. Google deserves your nomination for corporate Big Brother of the Year. " Maybe this persons effort would be better spent on real issues, like the genuine big brother with patriot acts, DMCAs, Total Information Awareness, etc.

I'd worry more about being tracked from shopping with my credit card than I would from using windows.

 

[milagro]

Originally posted by: HEMIFREAK
how to "opt out" on google's tracking

wonder why those other yahoos left that off their main site

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito
Sounds like yet another paranoid anti-establishment rant to me. I will give up Google when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers!

 

[milagro]

I guess what I'm really wondering is why are so many ATOTer's aggressive Adaware users but would tend to blow this off? where do you draw the line?

 

[dahunan]

GoogleCache is the greatest invention Evar

Are you familiar with http://news.google.com/ <<that be the schiznit

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: milagro
I guess what I'm really wondering is why are so many ATOTer's aggressive Adaware users but would tend to blow this off? where do you draw the line?

Because this is being used to enhance a Tool that I personally use and Appreciate Very Much

 

[Miramonti]

They say they don't sell or give away the information, but they definitely don't say that its discarded either.

You never know, they are so good, google could be targeted by monopoly accusations in the future, depending on how their business evolves and whether or not there are many claims of 'unfair business practices' related to their ranking algorithms/processes. Not saying its warranted or not by any means, but it just may get to that imo. If that happens I imagine they would be sued to reveal the major points in their ranking algorithms to help level out the playing field for website operators to get their pages ranked higher.

 

[ReiAyanami]

 

[BadNewsBears]

Are they saying spooks as in blacks.? Racist crack pipe toting 45 year old live with his mom kinda guy.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

So use a frickin' proxy server, block cookies to Google, and don't install that goddamn toolbar.

Problems solved. Now, how about those fearmongering asspirates have a nice tall steamy mug..

- M4H

 

[Howard]

That point about not responding is utter BS. I emailed them and received a reply in 4 hours.

 

[HendrixFan]

I bet this was cooked up by a group that develops other search engines, since Google kicks the living sh!t out of them.

Google rules!

 

[ViRGE]

If I recall correctly, google-watch.org was set up by one of the larger anti-Google groups because of the page-ranking system. I believe it was an organization who tried to sell help to people on cheating page-rank, and got caught red-handed. I can't find the article for this off the top of my head though, so I apologize.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: ViRGE
If I recall correctly, google-watch.org was set up by one of the larger anti-Google groups because of the page-ranking system. I believe it was an organization who tried to sell help to people on cheating page-rank, and got caught red-handed. I can't find the article for this off the top of my head though, so I apologize.

Is this it? -- Meet Mr. Anti-Google

 

[Yomicron]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: ViRGE
If I recall correctly, google-watch.org was set up by one of the larger anti-Google groups because of the page-ranking system. I believe it was an organization who tried to sell help to people on cheating page-rank, and got caught red-handed. I can't find the article for this off the top of my head though, so I apologize.

Is this it? -- Meet Mr. Anti-Google

So basically this guy (google-watch.org founder Daniel Brandt) is mad that a search for Donald Rumsfeld returns a DoD link before it returns a link to Brandt's own NameBase site ("an online database of thousands of citations to influential people").

 

[Hamburgerpimp]

With the Google Toolbar, I work a few hours a week for my old company and make a few hundred dollars. Google rocks!

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: milagro
I guess what I'm really wondering is why are so many ATOTer's aggressive Adaware users but would tend to blow this off? where do you draw the line?

because this is a bunch of broohaha over *nothing*. just don't enable advanced features (they make it really clear to you what this does). and all that crap about logs?

EVERY major site keeps logs containing that information, these people clearly do not know how the internet works.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: milagro
I guess what I'm really wondering is why are so many ATOTer's aggressive Adaware users but would tend to blow this off? where do you draw the line?

because this is a bunch of broohaha over *nothing*. just don't enable advanced features (they make it really clear to you what this does). and all that crap about logs?

EVERY major site keeps logs containing that information, these people clearly do not know how the internet works.

And as stated above the site is really motivated by the hatred of a scam artist who tried to sell ways to cheat the page-ranking system.

Is the the guy who filed some frivolous lawsuit after trying to cheat on the rankings, or was that some other scum?

Google is the most useful tool on the internet, so anybody slamming it had better have good reasons not just pique over being caught scamming.