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cmdrdredd

cmdrdredd

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Roland00Address said:
Yes I have not rooted my nexus 7. I have rooted and installed cyanongenmod on my touchpad and an old phone, but only after I do not need them anymore and someone made a list of instructions aka a how to.
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Well, all you need to do is boot to your custom recovery (that you used to flash roms in) and select the backup option. That will make a backup of your current OS state that you can restore again from the custom recovery. So if you ever get stuck you can always restore back to a working state.
 
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Roland00Address

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OBLAMA2009 said:
two years ago they gave out nexus 7, nexus phone and qball. last year they gave out pixels. this year a crappy watch dat dont do jack, soundz like a rip off to me
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First world problems, they give me cool stuff but not as cool as I would like.
 
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Suspicious-Teach8788

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As an attendee, I'll be honest and say I was there for the free stuff. It was a bit disappointing we only get watches this year. Would've liked a new tablet or something. But oh well. Yes, yes its free, but I/O has always been known for gadgets.

Moving on though, I do find L to be a much needed polish of Android. We've been sitting on the same UI since 4.0, which is very nice, but lacking features. The custom ROM scene has really been pushing the limits in terms of what Android can do, but overall we haven't seen any major OS update since 4.1. Most of the rest of the updates are separate apps that bring in more functionality, but in the end we aren't getting more controls and toggles and features in the OS itself.

The new interface does leave some questions though. Are slide out menus to stay? Or are they going away? We spent so much time bringing them in, and while I'm not a huge fan, I've adopted. What's worse is the Google+ app right now where I have to reach to the top to interact with the app and I have to go back to the main page to switch to a different page as a result of the lack of a slide out menu.
 
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Roland00Address

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DLeRium said:
As an attendee, I'll be honest and say I was there for the free stuff. It was a bit disappointing we only get watches this year. Would've liked a new tablet or something. But oh well. Yes, yes its free, but I/O has always been known for gadgets.
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The purpose of the conference is for people to be better developers not free stuff. Google bribes attendees like a parent bribes a child with a promise of a present if they eat their vegetables. Also the idea of gifts are to get developers do to program due to new API versions or new form factor of devices.

2008 no giveaways
2009 Android 1.6 phone
2010 Android 2.3 phones two models depending on your location and thus the carrier type
2011 Android 3 tablet, 1st gen arm chromebook, lte hotspot
2012 Android 4.0 phone, 4.0 tablet, chromebox, nexus q
2013 Chromebook pixel showing off high end hardware can work for chrome and developers should see chrome as could be nice not just cheap.
2014 Two android wear watches

Like I said first person problems about complaining of the quantity or quality of FREE stuff. Google's gifts are very logical, they gove their kids chocolate milk so their kids get vitamin d and calcium, instead of soda which is what the kids really want.

Love Google IO for the stuff, come for the learning.
 
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SAWYER

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I wonder how long before Pioneer and other car stereo companies put out Android stereos
 
gorcorps

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DLeRium said:
As an attendee, I'll be honest and say I was there for the free stuff. It was a bit disappointing we only get watches this year. Would've liked a new tablet or something. But oh well. Yes, yes its free, but I/O has always been known for gadgets.

Moving on though, I do find L to be a much needed polish of Android. We've been sitting on the same UI since 4.0, which is very nice, but lacking features. The custom ROM scene has really been pushing the limits in terms of what Android can do, but overall we haven't seen any major OS update since 4.1. Most of the rest of the updates are separate apps that bring in more functionality, but in the end we aren't getting more controls and toggles and features in the OS itself.

The new interface does leave some questions though. Are slide out menus to stay? Or are they going away? We spent so much time bringing them in, and while I'm not a huge fan, I've adopted. What's worse is the Google+ app right now where I have to reach to the top to interact with the app and I have to go back to the main page to switch to a different page as a result of the lack of a slide out menu.
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Oh oh oh.... Dibs on the disappointing free stuff. I'll PM my address, thanks =)
 
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s44

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Anyone know whether we'll see preview images for GPE devices? Or kernel source, which would have about the same effect.
 
sweenish

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s44 said:
Anyone know whether we'll see preview images for GPE devices? Or kernel source, which would have about the same effect.
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I doubt it. They posted definitively what devices will get the preview. There will likely be custom ROMs built on the images, though. Hopefully they will work well enough.

I got the Android SDK set up and unlocked my N7 last night to try this out. I'll be leaving my phone alone.

And then I'll probably re-lock once L drops officially in the fall.
 
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s44

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Yeah, I guess I'll flash the 4.4.4 GPE ROM today then. Ah well.
 
Ravynmagi

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Google IO tickets are $900. I think a little complaining when the gift goes from a $1500 laptop the previous year to a $400 pair of watches is acceptable. :p
 
cmdrdredd

cmdrdredd

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Ravynmagi said:
Google IO tickets are $900. I think a little complaining when the gift goes from a $1500 laptop the previous year to a $400 pair of watches is acceptable. :p
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Well, as was said you are there for the information presented. I've been to a couple Graphic Artist conventions and never got a thing and I paid to get in too.

Maybe Google should have never given stuff away in the first place. It's especially bad when many people probably don't actually pay out of pocket to attend and their employer is footing the bill or the only reason they bother to go is because they think they can get some new stuff nobody has yet they can flip on ebay, locking out legit developers who would go for the actual conference and info.
 
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Roland00Address

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Ravynmagi said:
Google IO tickets are $900. I think a little complaining when the gift goes from a $1500 laptop the previous year to a $400 pair of watches is acceptable. :p
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If you are a developer you are paying $900 to do your job better. Continuing education is required in almost all technical fields. $900 is reasonable and par for the course.
 
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Suspicious-Teach8788

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Honestly, I'm just commenting on that it'd be nice to have a bigger giveaway. With that said I'm satisfied. I'm not parading around Google I/O with protest signs saying "MOAR GIVEAWAYS." I do think its justified that some people are disappointed that we went from a $1500 laptop to $200 wearables. Fine $200 x 2. Should anyone be infuriated over this? No, but its understandable why there is some disappointment. But that's just about it.

Anyway, I had to give my badge to a buddy to get my LG G Watch today. He's an iOS developer, but I figure he wants to venture into Android, so he's probably a good replacement.
 
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soccerballtux

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Roland00Address said:
If you are a developer you are paying $900 to do your job better. Continuing education is required in almost all technical fields. $900 is reasonable and par for the course.
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a little complaining is acceptable. and lol @ google IO being "continuing education" that will help you "do your job better"
 
sweenish

sweenish

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soccerballtux said:
a little complaining is acceptable. and lol @ google IO being "continuing education" that will help you "do your job better"
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It's two days full of sessions for devs to learn to better use the API's and strategies for monetizing and utilizing modern design techniques. If not continuing education, what then?
 
Commodus

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Google is certainly right to lower expectations, not the least of which is that it could turn into a huge backlash if/when the company doesn't have a big hardware-related announcement one year. Apple has no problems attracting a ton of developers to WWDC, and it doesn't give out a thing -- the last thing Google wants is the perception that it has to bribe developers into supporting Android.
 
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Commodus said:
the last thing Google wants is the perception that it has to bribe developers into supporting Android.
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I think the bigger issue is that a lot of non-developers will go to get whatever free gear Google is handing out, especially if it is worth more than the ticket price, which takes spots away from developers who might be interested in attending.
 
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