Deeko
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I believe the issue is comparing the Galaxy S to the iPhone 3G. The body metal ring came with the iPhone 4.
I believe the issue is comparing the Galaxy S to the iPhone 3G. The body metal ring came with the iPhone 4.
it's dumb. people who thought the two phones were similar 2 years ago are now backtracking.
it doesn't matter if you think apple is an idiotic company suing left or right, but you should at least recognize the differences. furthermore the 2 additional buttons are not visible when the screen is off. Thus it's just that 1 button. Other android phones don't have a button at all. And you wonder why the SGS3 went to an ugly rectangular button.
Honestly look at what HTC did. Trackball for the Nexus One. Mechanical d-pad on the HTC Desire. Those are far different than the button in the SGS phone.
Let's not forget what they did with the SGS2 and adding double tap/long hold home for certain features kinda like the iPhone.
From a distance I might think iPhone once or twice. Looking at it head on 2 feet away... yeah obviously I can tell. But if I see someone tapping away on a screen a few seats down on the subway, I wouldn't really be staring to find out what they're using.
it doesn't matter if you think apple is an idiotic company suing left or right, but you should at least recognize the differences. furthermore the 2 additional buttons are not visible when the screen is off. Thus it's just that 1 button. Other android phones don't have a button at all. And you wonder why the SGS3 went to an ugly rectangular button.
Honestly look at what HTC did. Trackball for the Nexus One. Mechanical d-pad on the HTC Desire. Those are far different than the button in the SGS phone.
Let's not forget what they did with the SGS2 and adding double tap/long hold home for certain features kinda like the iPhone.
From a distance I might think iPhone once or twice. Looking at it head on 2 feet away... yeah obviously I can tell. But if I see someone tapping away on a screen a few seats down on the subway, I wouldn't really be staring to find out what they're using.
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Hah! good find.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/27/3192614/samsungs-beat-apple-strategy-copying-court-documents
Looks like there were people returning galaxy tabs because they thought it was an iPad2.
TuxDave
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- Oct 8, 2002
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hahahaha, that's pretty hilarious. It's amazing how polarized the iOS vs Android crowd has become after these past couple years of bickering.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarization_(psychology)
Oyeve
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Either that was a pisspoor excuse to return the product without penalty or people who cannot READ should not be buying electronics.
TuxDave
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People are not tech saavy? No way.....
Remember that CVS $59 Syvania netbook? I bet people bought that since "it's a super cheap computer!" Then they realized it's completely not what they expected. I bet the story with the Tab and Apple is the same. "They look about the same, they probably do the same thing except Samsung is cheaper". I doubt they even knew what Android or iOS was and how they don't talk to each other.
AstroManLuca
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Haha! It's funny because I posted back then that the Galaxy S looked like an iPhone knockoff. And I still think it does. More in the software than in the hardware. I always thought that version of TouchWiz was stupid and needlessly similar to iOS - they added the dot page indicator, rounded rectangular backgrounds for app icons, a dock with a shaded background, and all their PR shots showed the open app drawer instead of the home screen. It's quite obvious Samsung was actively trying to copy Apple in that regard.
Meanwhile, all of HTC's PR shots show the home screen with the big HTC Sense clock widget. So that's fairly far removed from Apple.
I still think that some of Apple's lawsuits are frivolous, but there are some cases where it's obvious Samsung is copying. They shouldn't be sued for making a black rectangular tablet, but I don't really feel sorry for them when they do everything in their power to make their own stuff look exactly like Apple stuff.
Take the Samsung Galaxy Ace, for instance. It looks more like an iPhone than any other phone on the market short of an actual knockoff. But of course Apple is not suing Samsung over it because it's a low end phone and not a serious competitor to them.
Phokus
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- Nov 20, 1999
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You'd think the words "SAMSUNG" or "GALAXY TAB" on the box or tablet would tip them off that it's not an IPAD2, but yes, lets cater to the lowest of the lowest common denominator.
I bet there are idiots who think the Samsung Galaxy III is an iphone 4s too.
TuxDave
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I bet that's true too!
My first summer job just out of high school was for a computer store doing repairs. After two years of that I lost all hope in humanity. I can easily picture someone dropping of their SGS3 and asking me "hey, I'm having trouble with my iPhone, can you help?" The iPhone brand is so strong that I bet lots of people use iPhone and Smartphone interchangeably.
I wonder if iPad has become synonymous with tablet for some people. They go in asking for an iPad. BB guy says "Oh, a tablet? Let me redirect you to the ones we make more money on..."
Though, my tech illiterate inlaws are capable of calling a tablet a tablet and distinguishing between brands ("is that one of those tablet computer things?").
Kind of reminds me of how in the southern U.S. when people will ask if you want a Coke, even if they only have 7-up or other types of soda/pop.
That said, there are some interesting implications if this were true. Apple could lose their iPad trademark if it becomes synonymous with tablets in general and people just refer to all tablets as an iPad. Aspirin and Yo-Yo were once both trademarks in the U.S. but became generic, so now anyone can use them to refer to their product of that type.
There are a lot of other similar trademarks that are probably at risk and may eventually lose their protection. Band-aid is prime example. I'd imagine that most people don't even know that that's a trademark and not a generic term.
Bateluer
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- Jun 23, 2001
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I am reasonably sure this applies to every Best Buy that carries Apple products. If you look where the iPads are displayed, they're on their own brightly light kiosk. They will be 4 iPads attached to stands, two iPad 2s, two iPad 3s. A black and white one for each. There will be a large panel with the Apple logo and images of the iPads towards the rear of the kiosk. Usually, iPad models are stored under the kiosk table in locked cabinets.
By contract, the Samsung Galaxy Tabs are displayed in a much smaller end table piece, or along side the Asus, Acer, and Toshiba devices. Apple and Samsung are the only ones that ever had their own segregated displays.
Apple has great marketing, far better than any other company. There is no possible way that even the most computer illiterate person could walk into a Best Buy and purchase a Galaxy Tab thinking it was an iPad with these displays. It simply isn't possible.
The sales person may show the customer several models, but its still the customer who makes the decision and they know full well if they'r buying an iPad or not.
SlitheryDee
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I kinda figured all current smartphones are copying the iphone. It was the first one to do the large screen with all but a few buttons activated through the touchscreen wasn't it? It was definitely the first one to sell really well anyway. All other current smartphones seem to clearly be rather blatant copies of that same general design, even if there are minor variations between them.
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LOL!!! This quote is almost sig worthy considering all of his posts in MD&G...
In other news, the iPhone design is based on a Sony designer's ideas:
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/07/early-iphone-prototypes-drew-inspiration-from-sony-ipod-mini/
"According to internal Apple communications, then-executive Tony Fadell circulated an article among those involved in the iPhone project which outlined various qualities that a mobile device should have according to a Sony industrial designer. The Sony designer described "portable electronic devices that lacked buttons and other 'excessive ornamentation,' fit in the hand, were 'square with a screen' and had 'corners [ which ] have been rounded out.'""
So Sony should be demanding billions from Apple instead?
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/07/early-iphone-prototypes-drew-inspiration-from-sony-ipod-mini/
"According to internal Apple communications, then-executive Tony Fadell circulated an article among those involved in the iPhone project which outlined various qualities that a mobile device should have according to a Sony industrial designer. The Sony designer described "portable electronic devices that lacked buttons and other 'excessive ornamentation,' fit in the hand, were 'square with a screen' and had 'corners [ which ] have been rounded out.'""
So Sony should be demanding billions from Apple instead?
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I missed the part that pointed out the Sony device apple copied. Oh wait, they just built their product based on what a designer said? What did they copy then? What would Sony sue for? If they have a case then they should definitely go after it.
Sony came up with the design ideas that Apple copied. Apple sued Samsung for copying the copied ideas of rounded corners.
Bateluer
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Yes, the early iterations of the S1s did look a lot like an iPhone under the right circumstances. And that comments from 2 years ago really backs me up too, it ticked off Apple. And by ticked off, I mean homicidal rage.
SlitheryDee
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lol! I love the idea that what they're fighting over is rounded corners. :awe:
The prototype looks like from Sony, but the end result iPhone looks nothing like the Sony device.
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