Google 6/6 Pro Specs Leaked

[sze5003]

Good to know thanks for the info guys. Looking hard at the S22 ultra as my next go to. I have heard about some display bug or something along those lines. I also hear a software fix is in the works. Any experience on that front from your handsets?

The display issue is due to the gpu's in the European exynos version of the s22 series. I've read one report of it happening to a Snapdragon version too on reddit.

Samsung has acknowledged this and is pushing out an update to the exynos Europe market right now.

US market should get it soon too, but probably in March as in the US the carriers also has to approve and roll the update out.

How is the FP reader? that is my main complaint with the 6. Even after the updates, it is still hit or miss and slow.

Fingerprint reader is night and day difference from pixel 6 pro. It's instantaneous, I just need to train myself to not hold my thumb down anymore because that's what you have to do on the pixel.

It also has face unlock if you want to use that too. It's literally just place your thumb but place it fully and then lift up right away.

I have gotten it to tell me I'm doing something wrong if I purposely place my thumb half way it will tell me "cover the fp sensor full with the thumb" or "couldn't match thumb print."

 

[MrSquished]

So I've had the s22 ultra since the 22nd. I've been comparing it to the pixel 6 pro.

My first day of full charge was yesterday and it was off the charger at 7am, apps were all the same as on the 6 pro, fresh install of everything with no restore of backups or data except text messages and call history.

Usage pattern was the same as I'm working from home until middle of March. By 12am I had 30% with the s22 ultra and totaled 7hrs 12 min of screen time.

The 6 pro would be in the low 20's percentage wise and most usually max out at 5hrs and some change for screen time.

Today I used maps to navigate for 17 minutes and the S22U dropped only 3 percent vs 5-6 that the 6 pro usually would drop in that same time frame.

The S22U also has a better 5g modem. In the same areas, I constantly had full 5g bars whereas driving through that area with the pixel would constantly go from full bars, to 1-2 bars 5G, to LTE and back and forth.

Idle drain with always on display is much much better on the S22U as well. Not sure why since the Snapdragon 891 is supposed to be more power hungry but I think it handles lower efficiency tasks better.

Battery still says optimizing in settings so it's not done configuring it but the phone already told me it will put a bunch of apps in deep sleep since they haven't been used.

I love stock Android and the pixel experience but Google definitely needs to get their hardware and software in check. I always thought Samsung would be full of bloat but that wasn't the case here. It's fast, smooth, and has a ton of customization, more so than Pixel.

Personally the fact that I'm getting better battery life doing the same tasks and routines, better signal, and less idle drain, that's what I was expecting from the Pixel if they are going down the in house chip route.

Going to keep using it for the next few weeks and I think I'm going to stick with it unless something drastic happens. Then I'll be checking on the pixel 7 pro next November.

Without a doubt the ultra will get better battery life than the 6 pro. There was no doubt in my mind. Google just hasn't figured that out yet.

I am still blown away by your navigation drain though. I drove my gf to JFK yesterday, it was just over an hour on the way there and then also back was a bit longer due to traffic, but I shut it off at one point. I lost 12% an hour after I did the math. I think Google just has shitty QC unfortunately.

However I do lose way too much battery to mobile network standby so that will always ruin the battery life compared to the Samsung S22 Ultra.

I'm hoping either Google fixes their shit with the 7Pro or Samsung fixes their low light camera with their S23, and I'll get that phone next.
Samsung undoubtedly wins with battery life and the fps. I would switch to Samsung for the first time since the Galaxy 4, except I hear from Samsung users the phone kinda sucks for taking photos in lower light when anything moves a bit vs the Pixels (and iPhones as well). I just can't sacrifice the better camera in non ideal light situations, whereas I am generally always near a charger or have a battery pack in my sling. I will always lose that memory to a crappy photo.

The Ultra is $300 more than the 6 pro. It's 30% more, and it shows in some important categories, except in low light photography.\

I'm hoping Google fixes their shit with the 7pro or Samsung their low light photography with the S23 and I'll get whichever one does that.

 

[sze5003]

Without a doubt the ultra will get better battery life than the 6 pro. There was no doubt in my mind. Google just hasn't figured that out yet.

I am still blown away by your navigation drain though. I drove my gf to JFK yesterday, it was just over an hour on the way there and then also back was a bit longer due to traffic, but I shut it off at one point. I lost 12% an hour after I did the math. I think Google just has shitty QC unfortunately.

However I do lose way too much battery to mobile network standby so that will always ruin the battery life compared to the Samsung S22 Ultra.

I'm hoping either Google fixes their shit with the 7Pro or Samsung fixes their low light camera with their S23, and I'll get that phone next.
Samsung undoubtedly wins with battery life and the fps. I would switch to Samsung for the first time since the Galaxy 4, except I hear from Samsung users the phone kinda sucks for taking photos in lower light when anything moves a bit vs the Pixels (and iPhones as well). I just can't sacrifice the better camera in non ideal light situations, whereas I am generally always near a charger or have a battery pack in my sling. I will always lose that memory to a crappy photo.

The Ultra is $300 more than the 6 pro. It's 30% more, and it shows in some important categories, except in low light photography.\

I'm hoping Google fixes their shit with the 7pro or Samsung their low light photography with the S23 and I'll get whichever one does that.

Another thing I forgot to mention is the screen on the ultra is gorgeous. The 6 pro screen is good, but the s22 screen is really sharp (you have to put it on QHD mode). It's also much brighter outdoors. Oh and they actually do adaptive brightness correct on the s22.

The 6 pro adaptive brightness would go crazy when I was in the same setting, it would keep changing.

As for the photo quality, it's really good. Honestly I can't tell much of a difference between the 6 pro and the S22U. It basically comes down to personal preference.

I will say that night photos are fine too, just a bit brighter, also some more detail on the Samsung compared to the pixel.

Where the 6 pro is better is photos where there are action shots or moving targets. This is something the pixel does really good.

I too hope Google figures it out next year because I'll go for the 7 pro. All other phones I had before the S22U were Google phones.

Unless like you said, Samsung fixes the action shots, I know Samsung has really good trade in deals for their devices and usually like $250 of accessories you can get when you preorder each year when a new device is out.

 

[Trader05]

My guess with the Pixel 7 it'll be a small incremental update for the SOC and camera setup, so it'll be a small adjustment and less of a mess on launch. I didn't think its a huge surprise with the big 12 update and Tensor being released around the same time that it wouldnt be smooth sailing. Being optimistic I hope with 12L and the March and April updates iron most things out for the 6 series. I haven't really had big issues like I stated before but I hope they tweak the modem a bit more so that it helps with the battery drain and connectivity. Google tends to keep the updates coming and fingers crossed to not break new things at the same time.

 

[MrSquished]

Android 12L came out today as the March update with some cool feature updates and lots of bug fixes, but the 6 series has to wait a couple more weeks.

 

[Trader05]

Just following up with the March 12.1 update. This should of been the launch software with this phone. Pretty much my signal issues are resolved, i havent had any drops since updating on Monday. They changed the haptic feedback with notifications and the app switcher which is less intense (i'm a fan of this). Overall smoother experience on my 6 Pro. As a plus I received the IOS emoji reactions as well after the update. Hopefully they dont ruin it with the April update 😂

 

[MrSquished]

Just following up with the March 12.1 update. This should of been the launch software with this phone. Pretty much my signal issues are resolved, i havent had any drops since updating on Monday. They changed the haptic feedback with notifications and the app switcher which is less intense (i'm a fan of this). Overall smoother experience on my 6 Pro. As a plus I received the IOS emoji reactions as well after the update. Hopefully they dont ruin it with the April update 😂

I had some issues getting off the beta to this but did 2 nights ago. Had to factory reset to get off the beta to this latest stable version. First half day on this release, battery life was terrible and phone ran hot. Read a thread about widgets being a problem for some folks, removed all mine and added them back. So far it's been a day and a half since then. Phone runs cool as a cucumber and so far, obviously a very small sample period, battery life with screen off seems noticeably better. Mobile network takes a lower percentage of battery life in the battery stats than it did prior. I think this version has a new radio version. Will check in after a few more days to see if it's a trend.

Luckily I never had signal issues. I too got the iOS emoji reactions finally as well, that was nice, I agree.

 

[MrSquished]

Battery is just way better with screen off. 0% battery drain in 3 hours of the phone just sitting idle with the phone in deep sleep 89% of that time (no ambient display of course)

 

[MrSquished]

Yeah standby/screen off battery is on another level compared to before. They must have updated the radio. Other people reporting the same.

FPS feels better too. I would still love an upgrade for the FPS though.

 

[nisryus]

Anyone has a Pixel 6 (not 6 Pro) and have compared quality of pictures taken with digital zoom?

I have a Pixle 4a and its digital zoom is alright when i use it outdoor under 3x zoom. Got worst if i tried 5x. Pictures became very pixelated when i tried with 3x zoom in door, even with good lighting.

i am thinking of giving the 4a to the kid, and get a Pixel 6 (or 6a when it comes out) for myself. The 6 Pro is just too pricey and wife doesn't sees the justification to spend that much. Rumor has it that 6a will have same camera spec as Pixel 5, so ultra wide and no optical zoom. Not sure if how good that would be comparing to the 4a.

 

[Trader05]

Anyone has a Pixel 6 (not 6 Pro) and have compared quality of pictures taken with digital zoom?

I have a Pixle 4a and its digital zoom is alright when i use it outdoor under 3x zoom. Got worst if i tried 5x. Pictures became very pixelated when i tried with 3x zoom in door, even with good lighting.

i am thinking of giving the 4a to the kid, and get a Pixel 6 (or 6a when it comes out) for myself. The 6 Pro is just too pricey and wife doesn't sees the justification to spend that much. Rumor has it that 6a will have same camera spec as Pixel 5, so ultra wide and no optical zoom. Not sure if how good that would be comparing to the 4a.

Im not a huge fan of the digital zoom with the newer sensor, everything looks oversharpened and saturated compared to the older sensors (3 and up). Id maybe hold out for the 6a. I have a Pro and when it uses the Telephoto its a huge difference compared to the digital zoom on the main sensor.

 

[nisryus]

Im not a huge fan of the digital zoom with the newer sensor, everything looks oversharpened and saturated compared to the older sensors (3 and up). Id maybe hold out for the 6a. I have a Pro and when it uses the Telephoto its a huge difference compared to the digital zoom on the main sensor.

I might have to increase my level of persuasion to get my wife to approve getting a 6 Pro.

I wonder how the 6a will be? So far all the rumors but nothing to really show what 6a truly is. Probably will reveal during I/O event... but so far.. away...

 

[Trader05]

I might have to increase my level of persuasion to get my wife to approve getting a 6 Pro.

I wonder how the 6a will be? So far all the rumors but nothing to really show what 6a truly is. Probably will reveal during I/O event... but so far.. away...

Yeah...im curious also. Usually the A series has less ram, worse screen and an older version of gorilla glass than the flagships. If they actually include the same Tensor chip, i wonder if they will have the older Sony main sensor or the newer Samsung. The main sell for me is an overall smaller 6.

 

[MrSquished]

The June update has been really good. The FPS is excellent. Everything runs very smoothly. But it's terrible that Google took this long to fix a basic feature for so many people. It wasn't that bad for me before but it's definitely on another level now.

I'll wait until the pixel 7 is out for a couple months to listen to lots of feedback before I think of switching to that.

 

[sze5003]

The June update has been really good. The FPS is excellent. Everything runs very smoothly. But it's terrible that Google took this long to fix a basic feature for so many people. It wasn't that bad for me before but it's definitely on another level now.

I'll wait until the pixel 7 is out for a couple months to listen to lots of feedback before I think of switching to that.

Yea that's basically what I'll do too. Instead of buying right at launch. The pixel 7 series are still going to use a Samsung modem too which I'm really not excited about.

 

[MrSquished]

Yea that's basically what I'll do too. Instead of buying right at launch. The pixel 7 series are still going to use a Samsung modem too which I'm really not excited about.

Yeah I'm hesitant about that too. It is a newly designed modem though, I think Google just can't put in the Qualcomm and keep the prices that low. They really want to hit those price points it seems.

 

[nisryus]

Ordered my Pixel 6 today since its $100 off on Amazon. Afterward a coworker told me about the new problem people are having - dead pixels on the screen?! Looked like some people claimed software update fixed their problem, while some said no.

Will see how it goes when it arrives tomorrow.

 

[nisryus]

So far so good. Only had experience one incidence where I couldn't sent any text. Reboot and fixed.

I got a Spigen case, but thinking of tempered glass to cover the screen, and maybe the camera array. Problem is it might affects the fingerprint reader. The fingerprint reader has been rock solid and I never experienced any problem which people were complaining about.

Has anyone use any film or tempered glass protector for their Pixel 6?

 

[igor_kavinski]

So far so good. Only had experience one incidence where I couldn't sent any text. Reboot and fixed.

Needing to reboot a phone is an extreme measure. Usually, phones have an uptime of weeks to months. If you have to reboot again before a whole month is over, you would simply be accepting a compromise.

 

[sze5003]

So far so good. Only had experience one incidence where I couldn't sent any text. Reboot and fixed.

I got a Spigen case, but thinking of tempered glass to cover the screen, and maybe the camera array. Problem is it might affects the fingerprint reader. The fingerprint reader has been rock solid and I never experienced any problem which people were complaining about.

Has anyone use any film or tempered glass protector for their Pixel 6?

When I had my 6 pro I used a tpu film screen protector. I did register my thumb multiple times because the fingerprint reader they used is capacitive not ultrasonic so it's not as quick. But I didn't encounter any issues with it aside from it being slower and less consistent but it was like that from the beginning and just a characteristic of the reader itself.

 

[sze5003]

Needing to reboot a phone is an extreme measure. Usually, phones have an uptime of weeks to months. If you have to reboot again before a whole month is over, you would simply be accepting a compromise.

Probably had to reboot to send the text because the modem in the pixel phones isn't that good and many times it would show signal bars but not actually get signal/data. I thought they had resolved this after the march update but you can't fix old/bad hardware with software.

Hopefully the 7 series will use a better modem, although it will still be a Samsung modem.

 

[nisryus]

I think the text issue had to do with a missing update. As soon as I rebooted the phone and was able to sent the text. I checked and saw there was a system update.

Has anyone used this kind of screen protector before (PET file)?
Supershieldz Designed for Google Pixel 6 Screen Protector, High Definition Clear Shield (PET)

I see there are screen protectors which also come with camera protector.
One type has cut out
Mowei [3+2 Pack] for Google Pixel 6 Screen Protector
the other doesn't
OMOTON Screen Protector for Google Pixel 6 5G

 

[MrSquished]

Installing Android 13 on the 6P now. Looks to have a lot of fixes plus important ones to just the 6 series. It seems like this is a turn towards Tensor tweaked OS for Google - unlike for other phones, once you install Android 13 on a 6 series Pixel you can no longer roll back to 12. Even with flashing the phone after wiping it. It makes an incremental change to the bootloader where that is not possible.

 

[spdfreak]

Installing Android 13 on the 6P now. Looks to have a lot of fixes plus important ones to just the 6 series. It seems like this is a turn towards Tensor tweaked OS for Google - unlike for other phones, once you install Android 13 on a 6 series Pixel you can no longer roll back to 12. Even with flashing the phone after wiping it. It makes an incremental change to the bootloader where that is not possible.

I have a 6 on T-mo and it is still on 12. Will they roll out 13 as an update? I wonder if the 6A is on 13...

 

[Commodus]

I have a 6 on T-mo and it is still on 12. Will they roll out 13 as an update? I wonder if the 6A is on 13...

Absolutely, it's deploying that way now... just gradually.

At any rate, the most recent Android 12 monthly releases seem to have transformed the Pixel 6. The fingerprint reader works reasonably quickly for me these days! My main phone is an iPhone (I'm spoiled, I know) but I would happily jump to my Pixel if I had to.