Goodbye SlySoft and AnyDVD

[JSt0rm]

exactly.

 

[JoeBleed]

interesting so you still think a 1080i50hz bluray will play on a ps3? I showed links that it wouldnt. Back it up if you think im wrong.

that's the thing, you never said it wouldn't play on a ps3. i pointed that out from the doom9 thread you posted. YOU said it wouldn't play on ANY region 1 player. I don't think anyone considered it over. The disk owner is supposed to be checking some things. but it's probably pointless as you'll never accept it. if it works, you'll just keep saying he converted it.

 

[JoeBleed]

we talked about a bunch of stuff. however this part of the thread was about that. You guys thought i was wrong and wanted to beat me up on something because you dont like me because of my stance on the piracy issue. You wanted to use this issue of regions codes to show why you need this software until I pointed out that that bluray wouldnt play regardless of region codes. then a big argument witha bunch of people who knew just enough to think they re right when they arent. Again bring some sources if you think im wrong.

and you want to talk about someone that is "emotional" about it. you're the one always saying people are "dog piling" on you or "beat you up". It's sad really. You can't communicate well so you blame others. And you still think this is about your stance on piracy??? really? :-/

as for bringing sources, i brought my source. My UK bought disk plays.

 

[JoeBleed]

posting this will prove to be painful i'm sure as you will not understand the original point that the amazon listing has errors cording to the owner.

http://www.arthousecowboy.com/journal/2013/1/25/how-to-watch-import-blu-rays.html

As stated here. most Blu-rays have their content in standard high definition formatting. Some standard def. extra's, or in worst case, the whole movie, is in 50hz. This is done due to poor authoring by the publisher or just a lazy publisher.

So, unless the player isn't a cheap piece of shit like the ps3 and a few others, it should still play it with out the region code as the player will convert it.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=95245

surprise. not a compatible Sony player on the list until ps4. Yet another reason to not like sony anymore.

So, unlike what you said and keep saying until recently, yes, you can play a 50hz blu-ray on a us TV if your don't have a POS player. Well. a less of a POS than the blu-ray players already are.

 

[JSt0rm]

His complaint about the disk was when he put it in the screen was black. He assumed this was from the country code so he did a bunch of stuff to the files and got it to play. I pointed out that his player wasn't compatible with pal and the world was turned on its end by all of you. Me, a professional, was wrong and you all were going to prove it. You could all smell blood in the water until finally over 10 pages of nonsense I was able to finally convince most of you. Now you want to say that I said no bluray player would play that disk? You are right now trying to move the goal posts because you want me to be wrong. I'm not wrong.

 

[JSt0rm]

and you want to talk about someone that is "emotional" about it. you're the one always saying people are "dog piling" on you or "beat you up". It's sad really. You can't communicate well so you blame others. And you still think this is about your stance on piracy??? really? :-/

as for bringing sources, i brought my source. My UK bought disk plays.

I literally fought off like 10 people in this thread. People calling for this to be nominated for ownership of the year. And you know what? Im gonna nominated it and all of you for ownership of the year. 😎

 

[JoeBleed]

http://community.us.playstation.com...L-region-Free-DVDs-on-PS3-in-USA/td-p/6221119


you cant play pal content on your tv idiot.

correction, you didn't say any player couldn't play it, you said the tv couldn't play it. it was noted later in the thread, not by you, that the player does the conversion, not the tv. So if his player is on the list and the disc isn't/wasn't region coded, it would work fine.

You said this several times. I should quote them all, but i'm not going to bother. It doesn't matter to you. You talk about changing goal posts... you kept switching between fps and hz. In addition, you keep calling people names just because they disagree with you. You call yourself a professional, you don't act like one.

I also didn't search the thread, but i did notice you were the one that mentioned "ownage" maybe others did, but i was only looking back at your posts briefly.

And i'll note, i didn't dog pile on you or attack you. I did question what you were saying and pointed out you kept ignoring parts of their statements. You also skipped several of my questions relating to the piracy topic. I set out to prove nothing. I only wanted to understand this as i thought they did away with ntsc/pall for blu-ray. it wasn't until this thread i found out they hadn't completely done away with it for some foolish reason. I do buy UK disks from time to time. this is an important issue. i don't want to have to rip and re-encode something to watch it. So this gives me info on something to be aware when shopping UK region discs. But, i watch everything on my computer so it may not even matter.

have a fun night doing what ever you do to have fun.

 

[JSt0rm]

fps is hz/2 in this context.

And tvs and bluray players can both be wrong. In his case his tube tv was wrong and his bluray player was wrong.

I skipped a ton of shit. This isnt jstorm's ama.

i play fps games competitively for fun.

let it be known I dont even read your posts. I skim them.

 

[JoeBleed]

fps is hz/2 in this context.

And tvs and bluray players can both be wrong. In his case his tube tv was wrong and his bluray player was wrong.

I skipped a ton of shit. This isnt jstorm's ama.

i play fps games competitively for fun.

let it be known I dont even read your posts. I skim them.

I'm not surprised with your responses and attitude. typical for someone that thinks they know everything. and fps isn't the same as hz. they may be linked; but they are two different things.

I'm also not sure where you got the tube tv from. I don't remember him mentioning a tube tv other than point out old examples where it would/should be a problem. Stop skimming posts and then answering them. either read the whole thing, think about it, then answer it, or don't answer it at all.

 

[Homerboy]

Still delivering!

 

[JSt0rm]

I'm not surprised with your responses and attitude. typical for someone that thinks they know everything. and fps isn't the same as hz. they may be linked; but they are two different things.

I'm also not sure where you got the tube tv from. I don't remember him mentioning a tube tv other than point out old examples where it would/should be a problem. Stop skimming posts and then answering them. either read the whole thing, think about it, then answer it, or don't answer it at all.

in the context of this discussion they are the same. Why do you think everyone else disappeared from this thread? Eh? If they were right they would be in here ripping me apart. But they wernt. So they decided to let it die. You apparently wont let it die and here it is for all to see.

You want to backtrack through every conversation that was had over the last 20 pages? Why? The guy mentioned his tube tv and I was responding to that. So what? The issue was already cleared up. i.e. that bluray disk wasnt going to play on his system regardless of the region codes. It was such a simple little thing that because of everyone around heres perceived expertise it took 20 pages to slog out the real answer. Do you think I would ever want to continue on with a conversation on audio/video technical things with you people ever again? hell no.

Im not here to educate you on random little things that dont matter (unless you buy a blu-ray from the uk thats a bit weird) and I'm certainly not here to be reported to the mods because you dont like me or get beaten up because I have the "wrong" opinion on file sharing.

A bunch of people came into this thread during that conversation and basically admitted they do it so don't tell me this software is about legit users. Buying a gray market item isnt even a legit purchase, so of course the guy had problems. Whats funny is he mis-understood WHY it wasn't playing.

But yeah Im the bad guy. 10 dudes with a little bit of knowledge about av they got in highschool are the good guys.

And here we are another reason why pros shouldnt interact with home users about these things. I had basically the same conversation regarding upmixing, downmixing and fold downs at avsforums except they were genuine in listening to the reasons and it was civil. However it took a ton of time. You all, on the other hand, are dicks. You wanted me to be wrong and you still want me to be wrong as if that somehow validates your opinions on file sharing, buying gray market and ripping digital copies (that you didnt buy) to your hard drives. It was all pretty pathetic and pretty standard fair for the people who call this place home.

And you still are trying to do that exact thing but now its about tube tvs. What should we talk about regarding tube tvs? His tube tv? the one that is ntsc? Maybe I can have 10 people trying to trip me up with not correct tech word usage and me making assumption of knowledge that were incorrect. Telling me that will nominate me for ownership of the year and that I must not be good at my job? All because I have the wrong opinion on file sharing.

You all are the worst example of group think Ive ever seen first hand.

 

[JSt0rm]

Still delivering!

Do you want to contribute? Or thread crap. Dont worry I wont report you to the mods. Im not a pussy like that.

 

[Homerboy]

Do you want to contribute? Or thread crap. Dont worry I wont report you to the mods. Im not a pussy like that.

How am I thread crapping? I was PRAISING this thread. More entertaining than most. Or did you just skim my post before you responded?
Report me if you must... from what I can see, you're the only one that's gotten a mod warning in here thus far.

 

[JoeBleed]

I don't care what we talk about. I don't think i ever said your tech input was wrong. I was arguing the fact you seemed to be ignoring what the owner was saying about the incorrect posting info from amazon. I've only focused on how you've selectively answered things and keep "changing the goal post" yourself. And i also said this was new information to me.

I will say i have a negative opinion of you due to your blanket assumption that we are all pirates and using the software of topic to pirate discs. I also didn't read many, only one that i remember, saying they ripped discs they didn't own. You are wrong about what AnyDVD HD does to the video content when decrypting. You did concede to that.

Why is buying any blu-ray discs from the UK weird to you? Why wouldn't you if it's a better set and sometimes it even comes out cheaper even after shipping. buying a gray market disc may not be a legit purchase in terms of the distributor, but it isn't illegal. So why does it matter? And buying directly from Amazon, i doubt would be a gray market purchase.

I'll also add, perhaps people wouldn't be a dick to you if you weren't a dick to them first. I realize this is ATOT, but no everyone here is a dick and does enjoy learning things. That there are a lot of trolls here. Also, the professionals i know in different fields are happy to talk about it and go into detail, it's the assholes that do nothing but bitch and moan about users and think they are far above them.

And i'm not trying to bring the discussion to tube tvs you mentioned it again saying he was trying to play it on a tube tv. i said i didn't think that was the case, he, or another poster, only said with the right player, it wouldn't matter if it was a tube tv. Unless i missed what you are referring too. hard to trust you as you don't post any prof and only skim comments before you decide to inject your thoughts on the matter.

At any rate, i'm very glad AnyDVD HD continues to live on. Long live our rights to use products we buy the way we want to and not be shackled by large corporation's over reaching practices.

Edit: and i'll add, for whatever it is worth, i'm not the one reporting you to the mods. didn't realize someone was. figured one of them was just following this thread.

 

[Homerboy]

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[poofyhairguy]

At any rate, i'm very glad AnyDVD HD continues to live on.

Agreed. Hopefully that means someone will take on UHD disks since DVDFab won't.

The sad truth is that any victory is probably short lived because optical media is a dying format. If they can be ripped I plan to buy some UHD disks before my main TV is 4K (akak I can watch them) just to start hoarding a format that might end up like 3D.

 

[Homerboy]

Agreed. Hopefully that means someone will take on UHD disks since DVDFab won't.

The sad truth is that any victory is probably short lived because optical media is a dying format. If they can be ripped I plan to buy some UHD disks before my main TV is 4K (akak I can watch them) just to start hoarding a format that might end up like 3D.

Agreed on all accounts.

 

[JSt0rm]

Agreed. Hopefully that means someone will take on UHD disks since DVDFab won't.

The sad truth is that any victory is probably short lived because optical media is a dying format. If they can be ripped I plan to buy some UHD disks before my main TV is 4K (akak I can watch them) just to start hoarding a format that might end up like 3D.

4k wont end up like 3d. We need the high resolution. I have a 64" plasma and its not big enough but I'm not gonna get anything bigger at 1080p. For a real movie experience you need it to be a bit larger for proper eye tracking of film.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Agreed on all accounts.

🙂

I mean, I don't mind if formats die and they are replaced. A huge huge chunk of my movie library is ripped HD DVDs I got for dollars apiece on eBay back when that format died. The problem is if UHD dies unlike 3D Blu Rays or HD DVDs the alternative will be streaming and optical media will die with it.

That reminds me, I need to start hoarding cheap 3D Blu Rays. I don't really like 3D, but I have three 3D tvs and the prices are dropping.

 

[JSt0rm]

once physical media is dead the used market will dry up. You have all accepted that for your videogames. The trade off is convenience and lower prices for a lot of content. Expect the same to happen.

 

[Homerboy]

🙂

I mean, I don't mind if formats die and they are replaced. A huge huge chunk of my movie library is ripped HD DVDs I got for dollars apiece on eBay back when that format died. The problem is if UHD dies unlike 3D Blu Rays or HD DVDs the alternative will be streaming and optical media will die with it.

That reminds me, I need to start hoarding cheap 3D Blu Rays. I don't really like 3D, but I have three 3D tvs and the prices are dropping.

I have never, and will never care about 3D movies for home viewing.

Well... unless it gets to the point where I don't need to wear glasses. Then maybe I'd have some for the "fun of it"

I just do not want to fumble with physical media anymore. It's death has been too slow as far as I'm concerned.

 

[JoeBleed]

once physical media is dead the used market will dry up. You have all accepted that for your videogames. The trade off is convenience and lower prices for a lot of content. Expect the same to happen.

I don't like giving up discs for games and pretty much forced to used a service for the online portion to work. I don't game much, but the few i do have, i'm stuck with the service. What happens if they go under?

With movies, streaming the way it currently is, streaming is horrible in terms of compatible quality. download speeds aren't there for everyone to handle good quality streaming. I could only accept no media for video if i can download it at higher bitrate that are typically on the discs and not be locked to a service/provider. I want it to be mine to keep. But it's not like what i'll accept will be main stream. I just hope it doesn't happen to video.

Just because we don't really have much, or any, choice with games now, doesn't mean we like it. The services they provide have some decent benefits, but some of them have gone down and the money spent there has been lost. This isn't a big issue with streaming; but i want to own, not basically rent.

 

[Homerboy]

I don't like giving up discs for games and pretty much forced to used a service for the online portion to work. I don't game much, but the few i do have, i'm stuck with the service. What happens if they go under?

With movies, streaming the way it currently is, streaming is horrible in terms of compatible quality. download speeds aren't there for everyone to handle good quality streaming. I could only accept no media for video if i can download it at higher bitrate that are typically on the discs and not be locked to a service/provider. I want it to be mine to keep. But it's not like what i'll accept will be main stream. I just hope it doesn't happen to video.

Just because we don't really have much, or any, choice with games now, doesn't mean we like it. The services they provide have some decent benefits, but some of them have gone down and the money spent there has been lost. This isn't a big issue with streaming; but i want to own, not basically rent.

I'm the opposite -- I can't stand physical disks (games, music, movies... whatever). I like having all of those things available to me on any TV/PC/device in the house at any time.

I understand the fear of a service going under and losing those games that I had through that service, but I'm pretty confident Valve will be around for a while so I'm comfortable buying games from them (granted I couldn't tell you the last release-day game I've purchased, I'm years behind in AAA titles)

 

[ControlD]

I'm the opposite -- I can't stand physical disks (games, music, movies... whatever). I like having all of those things available to me on any TV/PC/device in the house at any time.

I guess I'm sort of in the middle. When I am watching a movie on my home theater, I generally want the physical disk. I have found things that look acceptable on a 52" TV don't necessarily still look good on a 120" projector. In those cases I very much prefer to have a physical BR disk. At the same time I like having those same movies available for streaming if I want to watch on my iPad or Roku. I guess I find the best option is owning the physical disk and then being able to rip for convenience.

For games, I am fine with digital distribution but that's more because the files reside on my hard drive and I'm not relying on a good connection speeds for anything more than the initial download.

 

[Homerboy]

I guess I'm sort of in the middle. When I am watching a movie on my home theater, I generally want the physical disk. I have found things that look acceptable on a 52" TV don't necessarily still look good on a 120" projector. In those cases I very much prefer to have a physical BR disk. At the same time I like having those same movies available for streaming if I want to watch on my iPad or Roku. I guess I find the best option is owning the physical disk and then being able to rip for convenience.

For games, I am fine with digital distribution but that's more because the files reside on my hard drive and I'm not relying on a good connection speeds for anything more than the initial download.

I agree with all this and totally get it. I have the physical disks on shelves/in buckets. Most are ripped to HD for streaming to any of the TVs in the house, the iPads, phones whatever... I just will never agree with me buying the disk and then having to purchase it digitally for any device I want to play it on.

For God's sake, even the cable companies don't do this anymore -- with my UVerse subscription I can stream my TV feed to any device I want -- at home or traveling.