Goodbye AC97

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Elcs

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Well, this has completely put me off buying an Audigy2 now.

I'll keep my Digital SoundStorm going for a while yet then. Hopefully I'll get some top quality Sound on my next motherboard.... I have nothing against soundcards or buying one but Im usually happy with what comes onboard as its better than what I had.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Originally posted by: Anubis

what does my M Audio revolution use? is it Ac97 a well?



Yes.

So basically AIWGuru is saying that the sound quality of my Abit NF7 is the exact same as my Audigy 2 which is the exact same as an M-Audio Revolution which is the exact same and a Soundblaster Live! because they're all AC97.

Unless he's saying that AC97 is some kind of minimum standard to ensure compliance across brands?
 

AIWGuru

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: AIWGuru

Originally posted by: Anubis



what does my M Audio revolution use? is it Ac97 a well?







Yes.



So basically AIWGuru is saying that the sound quality of my Abit NF7 is the exact same as my Audigy 2 which is the exact same as an M-Audio Revolution which is the exact same and a Soundblaster Live! because they're all AC97.



Unless he's saying that AC97 is some kind of minimum standard to ensure compliance across brands?

W.T.F.
-15 points for poor reading comprehension and -10 points for not knowing how to use google.
AC'97 is a standard...like directx. It doesn't mean that all cards which conform to it use the same converters, dsps...
:roll:

 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: AIWGuru



Originally posted by: Anubis







what does my M Audio revolution use? is it Ac97 a well?















Yes.







So basically AIWGuru is saying that the sound quality of my Abit NF7 is the exact same as my Audigy 2 which is the exact same as an M-Audio Revolution which is the exact same and a Soundblaster Live! because they're all AC97.







Unless he's saying that AC97 is some kind of minimum standard to ensure compliance across brands?



W.T.F.

-15 points for poor reading comprehension and -10 points for not knowing how to use google.

AC'97 is a standard...like directx. It doesn't mean that all cards which conform to it use the same converters, dsps...

:roll:

Oh my gosh, you totally pwned me! Maybe now you'll get off this thread, which you've been watching like a hawk, hoping to be able to throw around the weight of some tiny bit of info you have.

I think you missed the last line in my last post, which hinted that I do indeed know what AC97 is.

But just to run through it one more time, the Audigy 2 and Turtle Beach Santa Cruz are pretty much the exact same card, right?
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: htmlmasterdave
How far off is Audigy 2 from this standard? Will I care?

The Audigy 2 and pretty much all the other "premium" sound cards are far beyond the basic requirements of this standard. Unfortunately they're held back by some requirements of it...
 

jose

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AIWGuru: Which "thunking" the Audigy2 ZS supports 1.0 or 2.0 ??

I really don't care about SACD, because it's a Sony only format, and is converted(pcm) before processing.

Regards,
Jose
 

bluemax

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One word: ASIO

I'm wondering if MS cares about low-latency? Creative doesn't... as much as they like to say they have ASIO drivers, they don't work. Plain and simple.

And not every card conforms to AC97. Hence, ASIO.

But then not everyone cares about high-end, low-latency audio for recording and music composition...

 

Nebor

Lifer
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Originally posted by: bluemax
One word: ASIO

I'm wondering if MS cares about low-latency? Creative doesn't... as much as they like to say they have ASIO drivers, they don't work. Plain and simple.

And not every card conforms to AC97. Hence, ASIO.

But then not everyone cares about high-end, low-latency audio for recording and music composition...

I care about as much for low latency audio as I do for colour accurate CRTs. Some people need it, I don't. Give me an LCD and an Audigy 2 ZS any day.

And there are ASIO hacks that do work with the Audigy 2. It's supposed to be quite a bit of trouble getting them to work though.
 

exar333

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I don't think that everyone who uses onboard sound dosnt care about audio...I have liked some onboard solutions as much as many stand alone cards, while other onboard sound has been less than stellar. I know that when I use one of my computers that dosnt have a lot of room for a big speaker set, I really dont mind if I use onboard, because I dont need really exceptional sound quality...
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: exar333
I don't think that everyone who uses onboard sound dosnt care about audio...I have liked some onboard solutions as much as many stand alone cards, while other onboard sound has been less than stellar. I know that when I use one of my computers that dosnt have a lot of room for a big speaker set, I really dont mind if I use onboard, because I dont need really exceptional sound quality...

I'd say that using headphones requires a higher quality sound source than "big speakers"...