good speakers?

[0roo0roo]

klipsch. tweeters are a must

nice bonus is replacement satts are cheap on their site ifu bang one up. and they sell stands and mounts and such

 

[imperfectcircle25]

Are you looking for just the speakers for $500?? Or does it need an amp and processor as well? Are you going to be using them for gaming, movies, or music or all three? Do you want just a pair of stereo speakers or do you want a 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound setup?? Im asking all this because most of the computer speakers ike Logitech or Creative are pretty good at movies and gaming but pretty horrible for 2channel music. If your not watching movies or gaming much you dont need a system with a sub, subs are not rreally needed with music if you have decent main speakers. I am not an audiophile really but I really cant stand bad sound especially with music. I would reccomend the following.
1. music only- get yourself a decent pair of active studio monitors. For $500 you can get a very nice pair like the Wharfedale Diamond 8.2pro, Tannoy Reveal, M-audio bx-5....etc These will sound way better than any computer type speaker as well as play far louder and clearer.

2. movie, music, gaming-it really depends on if you want surround sound or not. If you only want two channel get the same pair of active monitors as above but add a sub. If you want surround sound that option will be two expensive so your best be it one of the computer systems fropm Klipsch, Logitech and M-audio even makes one which is most likely better than the other two for slightly more money..

 

[spikespiegal]

And you're a true audiophile? What about organ music?

I helped a friend of mine build a custom sub-woofer for his home theater system, which already consisted of full range, $7,000 speakers. We used a 15" Adire Driver, and spec'd out the low frequency resonance to hit 16hz with an enclosure the size of an oil drum while keeping pristine distortion specs for perfect music reproduction. With 700watt plate amp, our system makes a pro class, $30,000 custom sound system in a ghetto pimp's boom truck sound like a stupid i-pod. We can get a lot deeper, and much cleaner, and we spent less than a grand. You can't get tower speakers for a grand that can do what the Adire can.

Otherwise, I agree. Small speakers = small sound, and you really need 5-6" paired drivers to do a decent job with near range PC audio. As I've said in other threads, there are dedicated studio monitors in the $200-300 range that will blow away this Klipsch and Logitech junk, and deliever much better bass without a sub.

 

[alcoholbob]

Organ music. Too funny. Who here DOES listen to organ music? Raise your hands.

Between Z-5500s and the Klipsch 5.1 Ultras (or $500 HTIB), considering the Klipsch 5.1 Ultras now sell for $200, I would say the Klipsch 5.1 Ultras.

 

[iRONic]

Originally posted by: jtgameover

my main question is this -- between a logitech z-5500, klispch 5.1's, or a < $500 home-theater system, what would be the best value? after reading around, my gut is leaning towards the logitech's... i am sure the klipsch and HT's kick its ass in sound quality in alot of places, but i doubt i am one guy who will really notice it. i also read a surprising number of horror stories where klipsch amps just die after two years. and it seems that the logitech speakers can be substituted as a home theater system, though not a great one....

I bought a new Klipsch ProMedia 4.1 system for my computer in 2000. It rocked hard until last July when a badass thunderstorm killt it.

An email and phone call to their CSR informed me that for $60 on a CC they would cover the repair and return shipping. I just needed to send them the satellite with the control pod on it and the guts to the sub woofer, which entailed removing eight screws. I shipped them back.

I received an email three weeks later with the FedX tracking #. Three days after that this is what arrived at my doorstep:

ProMedia Ultra 5.1

Included was a note that said "This unit is being sent to you in exchange for the one you sent in for repair, due to some unforseen problems that we are having getting the parts to repair your unit. I hope that this unit will be satisfactory."

"Please discard all the components that you have left of the other unit, as they are not compatible with this system."

Yeah, right... discard. I put two of the old 4.1 satellites in the rear of my HT setup. Instant killar upgrade!

As I mentioned in a previous post, I still have my twenty year old Klipsch Heresy II's upstairs on my stereo system. They still rock. Hard.

This is how a company keeps me as a customer for life. Quality products and excellent customer service.

 

[Ultralight]

Originally posted by: Astrallite
Organ music. Too funny. Who here DOES listen to organ music? Raise your hands.

Raises hand. Me! Me! Over here! Anyway...


Between Z-5500s and the Klipsch 5.1 Ultras (or $500 HTIB), considering the Klipsch 5.1 Ultras now sell for $200, I would say the Klipsch 5.1 Ultras.

Where can I find these Ultras? I've done some serious searching for Klipsch but I've never come across this particual model.

 

[iRONic]

Originally posted by: Ultralight

Originally posted by: Astrallite
Organ music. Too funny. Who here DOES listen to organ music? Raise your hands.

Raises hand. Me! Me! Over here! Anyway...


Between Z-5500s and the Klipsch 5.1 Ultras (or $500 HTIB), considering the Klipsch 5.1 Ultras now sell for $200, I would say the Klipsch 5.1 Ultras.

Where can I find these Ultras? I've done some serious searching for Klipsch but I've never come across this particual model.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16836119106

 

[Lasthitlarry]

Originally posted by: iRONic

Originally posted by: Ultralight

Originally posted by: Astrallite
Organ music. Too funny. Who here DOES listen to organ music? Raise your hands.

Raises hand. Me! Me! Over here! Anyway...


Between Z-5500s and the Klipsch 5.1 Ultras (or $500 HTIB), considering the Klipsch 5.1 Ultras now sell for $200, I would say the Klipsch 5.1 Ultras.

Where can I find these Ultras? I've done some serious searching for Klipsch but I've never come across this particual model.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16836119106

Newegg.... I think you squandered your research funds

 

[iRONic]

Originally posted by: Lasthitlarry

Newegg.... I think you squandered your research funds

How so?

 

[Ultralight]

Originally posted by: Lasthitlarry

Originally posted by: iRONic

Originally posted by: Ultralight

Originally posted by: Astrallite
Organ music. Too funny. Who here DOES listen to organ music? Raise your hands.

Raises hand. Me! Me! Over here! Anyway...


Between Z-5500s and the Klipsch 5.1 Ultras (or $500 HTIB), considering the Klipsch 5.1 Ultras now sell for $200, I would say the Klipsch 5.1 Ultras.

Where can I find these Ultras? I've done some serious searching for Klipsch but I've never come across this particual model.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16836119106

Newegg.... I think you squandered your research funds

LOL! Lasthitlarry, can you spare say $300.00???

 

[mikeford]

Under $100 pc speakers can work very well, 2.1 is a good arrangement, I use an old set of PC Works from Cambridge Soundworks on a couple of ours.

Over $100 and a cheap receiver with real hifi speakers has the edge, due to the power of even a cheap receiver and the flexibility. Keep in mind you really don't need new stuff, better to get used in good working order cheaper.

I like organ music. The reason some don't is that they have never heard it properly reproduced, or they just lack taste.

 

[videogames101]

Grab some logitech z-5500e's, or if your on a budget get the 5300's. There a serious bang for your buck, THX certified too! I can tell you the 5300 has some nice bass, and the highs are better then most i've heard. 5300 is only like $140 at the egg too.

 

[NanoStuff]

Originally posted by: videogames101
Grab some logitech z-5500e's, or if your on a budget get the 5300's. There a serious bang for your buck, THX certified too! I can tell you the 5300 has some nice bass, and the highs are better then most i've heard. 5300 is only like $140 at the egg too.

Omfgxorz THX? Woah that is eeextreme.

To be serious, if you're on a budget steer clear of the 5300s, they have a pitiful subwoofer.

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Originally posted by: videogames101
Grab some logitech z-5500e's, or if your on a budget get the 5300's. There a serious bang for your buck, THX certified too! I can tell you the 5300 has some nice bass, and the highs are better then most i've heard. 5300 is only like $140 at the egg too.

Omfgxorz THX? Woah that is eeextreme.

To be serious, if you're on a budget steer clear of the 5300s, they have a pitiful subwoofer.

Pitiful? I think not, i have bass almost halfway up and the house is shaking! i can't even turn the volume all the way up without waking up the neighbors.

 

[NanoStuff]

By pitiful I meant of poor sound quality. I have no argument against insufficient amounts of bass. I don't think it's possible to get a mainstream multimedia speaker system that doesn't have an excessively powerful subwoofer.

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
By pitiful I meant of poor sound quality. I have no argument against insufficient amounts of bass. I don't think it's possible to get a mainstream multimedia speaker system that doesn't have an excessively powerful subwoofer.

Well, excessive bass is what it's all about for me, bass is bass, but i doubt many people could tell the difference when you have it cranked up.

 

[NanoStuff]

The difference is all the more noticeable when it's cranked up, and the 5300s subwoofer sounds bad. 5500s are respectable for their price point, the 5300s fail.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
By pitiful I meant of poor sound quality. I have no argument against insufficient amounts of bass. I don't think it's possible to get a mainstream multimedia speaker system that doesn't have an excessively powerful subwoofer.

powerful..not exactly. boomy yes. accurate no. thats the problem.

 

[alcoholbob]

Originally posted by: Ultralight

Originally posted by: Lasthitlarry

Originally posted by: iRONic

Originally posted by: Ultralight

Originally posted by: Astrallite
Organ music. Too funny. Who here DOES listen to organ music? Raise your hands.

Raises hand. Me! Me! Over here! Anyway...


Between Z-5500s and the Klipsch 5.1 Ultras (or $500 HTIB), considering the Klipsch 5.1 Ultras now sell for $200, I would say the Klipsch 5.1 Ultras.

Where can I find these Ultras? I've done some serious searching for Klipsch but I've never come across this particual model.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16836119106

Newegg.... I think you squandered your research funds

LOL! Lasthitlarry, can you spare say $300.00???

Ultralight, if you live in the US, Best Buy has been selling them for $199 for weeks.

 

[alcoholbob]

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
By pitiful I meant of poor sound quality. I have no argument against insufficient amounts of bass. I don't think it's possible to get a mainstream multimedia speaker system that doesn't have an excessively powerful subwoofer.

Well, excessive bass is what it's all about for me, bass is bass, but i doubt many people could tell the difference when you have it cranked up.

Deep bass is what you hear and feel, the long whuuuump. Excessive (upper bass) like the Logitechs (without the accompanying deep bass) is basically just what they call "one-note" bass because its so much louder than anything else. It's also the kind of bass that annoys your neighbors. I don't think you could annoy your neighbors with an SVS-PB12 Ultra/2 that goes deep below 20hz, with a 1KW amp than you as much as you could with say the Logitech Z-5500s, or any number of multimedia subs that sound like they have a +20db boost somewhere at 90hz, and are down around 80db at 40hz.

 

[PurdueRy]

Originally posted by: Astrallite

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
By pitiful I meant of poor sound quality. I have no argument against insufficient amounts of bass. I don't think it's possible to get a mainstream multimedia speaker system that doesn't have an excessively powerful subwoofer.

Well, excessive bass is what it's all about for me, bass is bass, but i doubt many people could tell the difference when you have it cranked up.

Deep bass is what you hear and feel, the long whuuuump. Excessive (upper bass) like the Logitechs (without the accompanying deep bass) is basically just what they call "one-note" bass because its so much louder than anything else. It's also the kind of bass that annoys your neighbors. I don't think you could annoy your neighbors with an SVS-PB12 Ultra/2 that goes deep below 20hz, with a 1KW amp than you as much as you could with say the Logitech Z-5500s, or any number of multimedia subs that sound like they have a +20db boost somewhere at 90hz, and are down around 80db at 40hz.

exactly what I was thinking :thumbsup:

 

[sandeep108]

Deep bass is what you hear and feel, the long whuuuump. Excessive (upper bass) like the Logitechs (without the accompanying deep bass) is basically just what they call "one-note" bass because its so much louder than anything else. It's also the kind of bass that annoys your neighbors. I don't think you could annoy your neighbors with an SVS-PB12 Ultra/2 that goes deep below 20hz, with a 1KW amp than you as much as you could with say the Logitech Z-5500s, or any number of multimedia subs that sound like they have a +20db boost somewhere at 90hz, and are down around 80db at 40hz.

QFT

 

[mikeford]

Good bass is a lot more about a sense of space, and things shaking without any sound at all, but I am also a sucker for impact bass (chest thumping typically around 60 to 120 hz and maybe 115 db).