Good Shoots: October Edition

[jackstar7]

From the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence FB page:

Just a few of the reasons people shot each other last month:

I ordered some food at a restaurant. When the cashier told me the price, I got upset. So I shot her repeatedly.
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/restaurant-worker-shot-customer-during-dispute-ove/nhwcY/

My boyfriend brought a shotgun home and told me I needed to learn how to use it. So I shot him.
http://www.foxsanantonio.com/news/f...hoots-kills-boyfriend-7715.shtml#.VFVNjb5d195

After Dad died, I wanted his tractor. My brother wanted it too, so I shot him in the head. http://www.baynews9.com/content/new...cles/cfn/2014/10/29/sumter_deputies_man_.html

I signed a contract to restore this guy's old truck, but when I told him it was going to cost more than I had estimated, he said he wouldn't pay. So I shot him.
http://www.wkyt.com/home/headlines/...ng-shooting--280386892.html?device=tablet&c=y

I was playing "gun tag" with a three-year-old child. He was pointing his toy gun at me, so I pointed my real, loaded handgun at him. I didn't really intend to shoot him, but I was drunk and I got carried away with the game.
http://newstalkkgvo.com/bail-set-fo...old-lake-county-boys-death/?trackback=fbshare

The gun I bought for protection didn't protect my home from being burglarized. When I saw that I had been robbed, I had a temper tantrum in my front yard. My 13-year-old neighbor saw me and started laughing, so I pulled my gun and shot him nine times. http://posttrib.suntimes.com/news/3...t-guns-down-neighbor-boy-13.html#.VFVw4L7SyS3

I was racing radio-controlled cars with another man. We got into an argument about who won the race, so I shot at him.
http://wreg.com/2014/10/16/man-shot-at-over-toy-race-car/

I like to play with my loaded gun while I watch The Walking Dead. I got a little fidgety while I was engrossed in the show and unintentionally shot my little brother to death.
http://www.kiiitv.com/story/26829560/man-accidentally-shoots-and-kills-brother

I was asleep and my cousin started jumping on my bed to wake me up, so I shot him to death.
http://www.wfmz.com/news/news-regio...ctims-cousin-in-fatal-berks-shooting/29137114

My friend jokingly slapped me in the face, so I jokingly shot her in the head with a gun I thought was unloaded. (It wasn't.)
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/n...lay-county/nhcFn/?__federated=1#__federated=1

At a gathering after a funeral, I asked a woman for her phone number. She said no (she was with her fiancé), so I shot her and five of her family members.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...etroit-bar-family-article-1.1966316?cid=bitly


Now, none of these are evidence of anything as they are simply anecdotes, but who can resist looking down at others? Who? Not you, certainly. And not me either. So I figure all the responsible gun owners should get a kick out of these.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Stupid and crazy (which is what most of these are) would find a way to harm itself and/or others, in some other manner than guns.

 

[Thebobo]

lol

Reminds me of this song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAKoU_W_mf8

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Stupid and crazy (which is what most of these are) would find a way to harm itself and/or others, in some other manner than guns.

I'm with you man I'd like to add how about keeping guns from the crazy.

 

[Jaskalas]

Many cases of people treating guns like toys. This is why we can't have nice things.

 

[Jaskalas]

Stupid and crazy (which is what most of these are) would find a way to harm itself and/or others, in some other manner than guns.

Yes and no... pulling a trigger is easy. Too easy.

 

[DrPizza]

Now, none of these are evidence of anything as they are simply anecdotes, but who can resist looking down at others? Who? Not you, certainly. And not me either. So I figure all the responsible gun owners should get a kick out of these.

And, every one of those should result in jail time. I'm not seeing what your point is. We could make a much longer list of people who carelessly killed others while driving their cars. If your point is that guns should be taken away from everyone because of a very very few individuals, then perhaps cars should be taken away from everyone?

 

[Jaskalas]

And, every one of those should result in jail time. I'm not seeing what your point is. We could make a much longer list of people who carelessly killed others while driving their cars. If your point is that guns should be taken away from everyone because of a very very few individuals, then perhaps cars should be taken away from everyone?

You realize that's going to happen, right? Soon as AI can drive us to our destinations, there will be a push to mandate its widespread use.

 

[PokerGuy]

Good thing we make laws for all of society based on anecdotes and biased reporting..... Oh wait, no, we don't (or at least, we shouldn't). Worthless drivel.

 

[jackstar7]

Good thing we make laws for all of society based on anecdotes and biased reporting..... Oh wait, no, we don't (or at least, we shouldn't). Worthless drivel.

I literally called out exactly what I was doing.

 

[jackstar7]

You realize that's going to happen, right? Soon as AI can drive us to our destinations, there will be a push to mandate its widespread use.

A mandate I am anxious to see come to pass, too.

That would be a sign of societal progress that would actually seem futuristic within my lifetime.

 

[doubledeluxe]

Gun accidents and crime in the USA are very high. Something needs to be done.

We aren't as bad as South America but we're like 3x worse than the rest of the developed world.

 

[BoberFett]

If the people killed were Democrats, then it's OK with me.\


Over the line.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[jackstar7]

If the people killed were Democrats, then it's OK with me.

Pretty much a lock with the kids.

So few of the young know what's best for them comes from Republicans and Libertarians.

 

[alzan]

Yet more proof that some people react emotionally to certain situations; if those people have access to a gun there will be these incidents and more. All the training in the world won't prevent it.

 

[Zaap]

That people drowning in the shallow end of the gene pool do stupid and violent things does not make for a convincing argument for the more intelligent to disarm themselves. Quite the opposite actually.

 

[jackstar7]

That people drowning in the shallow end of the gene pool do stupid and violent things does not make for a convincing argument for the more intelligent to disarm themselves. Quite the opposite actually.

Of course. It has always been in the interests of the "better" class of people to protect themselves from the "lessers".

If catapults were still a thing, you'd just see walls around communities rise. In this case, you best make sure you are armed, lest these "stupid" people get too close with their own guns.

Remember, the higher you are, the greater the number of threats constantly trying to take it all away.

 

[Zaap]

If catapults were still a thing, you'd just see walls around communities rise.

If no one had invented the automobile we'd all still have to ride horses and I could finally have one.

 

[jackstar7]

If no one had invented the automobile we'd all still have to ride horses and I could finally have one.

Not sure it's remotely correct, but this corresponds how?

 

[CPA]

A mandate I am anxious to see come to pass, too.

That would be a sign of societal progress that would actually seem futuristic within my lifetime.

No, that would be control. Now, if you feel that controlling citizens is societal progress than more power to you. I, on the other hand, don't.

 

[Paratus]

So if you are a small business owner what's your risk assessment in allowing weapons on the premises vs not allowing weapons?

Basically what's riskier, accidental shooting in your store vs armed customer stops armed felony of some sort.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

So if you are a small business owner what's your risk assessment in allowing weapons on the premises vs not allowing weapons?

Basically what's riskier, accidental shooting in your store vs armed customer stops armed felony of some sort.

Or customer accidently shoots someone dead who is not a robber or the clean up fee to remove the blood from the carpet.
How about doing more cash drops so if a robbery happens its a smaller amount of money around?

 

[frowertr]

So if you are a small business owner what's your risk assessment in allowing weapons on the premises vs not allowing weapons?

Basically what's riskier, accidental shooting in your store vs armed customer stops armed felony of some sort.

I am a small business owner. Retail gift shop. No issues with patrons coming in with concealed firearms. I carry one myself.

 

[PokerGuy]

So if you are a small business owner what's your risk assessment in allowing weapons on the premises vs not allowing weapons?

That's a no-brainer. There is virtually no additional risk in allowing law abiding citizens carrying in your store, anyone who is up to no good will do whatever they plan on doing regardless of what your little sign says on the door.

 

[Paratus]

That's a no-brainer. There is virtually no additional risk in allowing law abiding citizens carrying in your store, anyone who is up to no good will do whatever they plan on doing regardless of what your little sign says on the door.

Just to be clear

The risk from allowing law-abiding citizens from carrying in your store is the very small chance of an accidental shooting.

The risk from not allowing law-abiding citizens from carrying in your store is the very small chance they could stop a shooting by someone who is up to no good.

I actually don't know the likelihood of either of these cases. I think for certain businesses asking law-abiding citizens to leave them at home is reasonable, but for others it isn't.