Good rice cooker for $69.99 at Marukai (socal)

kidthor

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The National SR-CG05N SR-CG05NW is on sale at Marukai for $69.99. The lowest I could find elsewhere was $82.00 or so, and good ol' Amazon has it for $100.00! It's a pretty good 3 cup rice cooker with fuzzy logic control... I bought it yesterday and it makes much better rice than my old one! Here's a site that has a picture of it: picture
 

carmann

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Originally posted by: rT10
what is fuzzy logic control?
I found this under rice cooker faqs from the link the op posted. I don't know about you but this is getting too deep for me :p


What is Neuro Fuzzy, Micom Fuzzy, Fuzzy Logic? This is so confusing. What's the difference between this and non "Fuzzy" Rice Cookers (traditional)??

Fuzzy logic was developed by scientists in the 1960s to solve problems that use quantitatively imprecise data instead of precise data. Many questions and situations cannot be precisely measured but can be given an imprecise measurement which allows adequate if not preferable calculation and solution. This simplifies many scientific computations and formulas that would otherwise be very difficult to compute. In the late 1980's and early 1990's, fuzzy logic's excellent ability to handle approximate information in a systematic way made it ideal for controlling and modeling complex systems where inexact models or systems with vagueness exist. Cooking rice is one such example. For example, the ideal temperature of cooking rice is dependant on the type of rice, the water condition, etc. All these variables are interdependent upon each other, can have a large range, and a change in one may affect another. Using fuzzy logic, intermediate values can be utilized to compute and calculate the ideal method/cooking time to produce rice.

What does this mean for you, the consumer? Better rice! But wait, what is Neuro Fuzzy? Neuro fuzzy is an advanced version of Fuzzy-logic that relies on neural networks to cook even better rice. For more information about fuzzy logic and neuro fuzzy, please search on Google.com for "What is Neuro Fuzzy" and "What is Fuzzy Logic"
 

ckmoocow

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Amazon.com has a Panasonic (same company as National) rice cooker for $59.88 w/ FREE shipping and NO tax. I just got it last week and made my first use of it today... works great! It's much better than the $100 Sanyo I bought that broke after a week. It cooks 2-6 cups of rice and comes with a steaming plate too!
 

rasputinj

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Originally posted by: ckmoocow
Amazon.com has a Panasonic (same company as National) rice cooker for $59.88 w/ FREE shipping and NO tax. I just got it last week and made my first use of it today... works great! It's much better than the $100 Sanyo I bought that broke after a week. It cooks 2-6 cups of rice and comes with a steaming plate too!

Nice find.

 

TekDemon

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Heh I have a neuro fuzzy equiped Zojirushi and it's friggin awesome =) but then I was REALLY pissed off to find that the week after I bought it from Amazon.com they came out with ADVANCED Neuro Fuzzy! GAHH!!!

It's like buying a Northwood only to find out Prescott is out. Damn it all! It probably pissed me off mostly because I had blown a large amount of money on something that is supposed to be "the best" and then it turns out it's just been outdone by the NEW best thing. Ugh.

Anyways, I wonder how the new Advanced Neuro Fuzzy cooked rice tastes...the Neuro Fuzzy is FANTASTIC though! Get some new grain Jasmine rice and it makes awesome awesome awesome rice. Used to be that the rice I ate at restaurants were sometimes better than the stuff we cooked at home, but now with Neuro Fuzzy, it's the opposite if I'm using good rice. =)

And thanks for the explanation, I never really had much of a clue as to exactly what the hell Neuro Fuzzy was, other than that it was the best(well until Advanced Neuro Fuzzy came out dammit).

I stuck an Athlon sticker on my Rice Cooker just because I have too many and I felt such a powerful processor equipped rice cooker needed to flaunt it's processing power, even if it's not really using an Athlon heh.

Zojirushi's stupid website confuses me further since it describes both Neuro Fuzzy models has having Advanced Neuro Fuzzy, although I guess they just mean it's advanced tech there, but I guess the new one has the MORE advanced Neuro Fuzzy. Personally I think the new shape looks kinda weird but I guess it's for the better cooking of the rice heh. The new one is the NS-ZAC series vs the old NS-JCC series. It seems to add a pre-washed rice cooking mode, along with a new detachable inner lid(dammit this actually sounds like a nice improvement), oooh a new completion melody signal instead of just beeping, and I think it's been tuned for sushi rice better? DAMMIT!

Anyway, these suckers are the serious top of the line stuff...check it out: http://www.zojirushi.com/ricecookers.html and the prices WILL reflect it...the new one is a $250+ cooker in case you care. It's $279.00 at Amazon.com and there's only 1 left in stock so if you want one you better order now! Although I'm sure there are places to get it cheaper than $279 heh.

MMMM now I'm hungry dammit!
 

zsir

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The amazon link is a good but plain old rice cooker........... (i.e) turn it on........it cooks and turns off...

With fuzzy logic you can program it to turn on and start cooking at a specific time.....They can also go into warm mode and keep the rice warm for 48 hrs
 

wjones

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Originally posted by: TekDemon
Heh I have a neuro fuzzy equiped Zojirushi and it's friggin awesome =) but then I was REALLY pissed off to find that the week after I bought it from Amazon.com they came out with ADVANCED Neuro Fuzzy! GAHH!!!

We are in the same boat, I bought it in early Dec 2002 ;) I got an Gold Box offer and I can't wait for the new NS-ZAC series. The new one is more compact, this is a nice feature for small kitchen.

Here is the price I paid:
Item(s) Subtotal: $199.99
Shipping & Handling: $12.07
Gold Box Discount: -$46.00
Promotional Certificate: -$5.00
Super Saver Discount: -$12.07
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Total Before Tax: $148.99
Estimated Tax: $0.00
Gift Certificate Amount: -$80.00
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Grand Total: $68.99
 

wjones

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Originally posted by: TekDemon
Anyway, these suckers are the serious top of the line stuff...check it out: http://www.zojirushi.com/ricecookers.html and the prices WILL reflect it...the new one is a $250+ cooker in case you care. It's $279.00 at Amazon.com and there's only 1 left in stock so if you want one you better order now! Although I'm sure there are places to get it cheaper than $279 heh.
From above linked, I found the Zojirushi NS-ZAC18 for $162.88 + shipping
 

Mysterie

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Don't forget Marukai's vast selection of 98 cent stuff. They often have great stuff like umbrellas, etc.
BTW. sometimes they oval shaped cookers leak water onto the rice (ehwww) making them soggy. At least our nearly $200 Zojirushi Neuro Fuzzy did. Hope they improved the design since then.
 

drewshin

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isn't fuzzy logic what you find in the pot after leaving the rice in it a few days?

nice deal, zojirushi sounds great but i couldnt bring myself to pay $200 for a rice cooker. :)
 

nautiazn85

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woow so much information about rice cookers... I have no clue what the big deal is and I freakin' eat rice everyday.
 

kidthor

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Yeah, Marukai has a pretty good selection of 98 cent items! I got a little glass teapot with a filter in it for only 98 cents!!! What brand of rice do you guys use? I use Tamanishiki myself...
 

TekDemon

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Originally posted by: wjones
From above linked, I found the Zojirushi NS-ZAC18 for $162.88 + shipping

Yeah that was the store that first started carrying the ZAC and they had a crazy low price too, but then Zojirushi got pissed off at them and forced them to raise their price.

Which reminds me, I also bought it at Amazon.com...but it was back in September 2002? It showed up in my GoldBox and Amazon was giving out $20 promo certificates if you spent enough in the Kitchen section, so I paid $135.79(I had a promo certificate from before that took off another $10 or maybe it was a coupon?) minus the $20 promo =) Hot diggity

Otherwise the deal at that online store would have been MUCH better than the Amazon deal and I would have cried ;) Anyway for a 10 cup cooker that's a pretty decent price right now, but if you're a bachelor or don't have too big of a family you should consider the 5 cupper which is already enough rice for 4-5 people Here because from what I understand the 10 cupper isn't as good if you're just going to cook one or two cups of rice yourself because of how big the pan is and how the rice ends up sitting in it. Of course that was based on the older design that I bought so I don't know if the new 10 cup model has been redesigned to cook 1 cup rice better, but it's obviously being tuned for cooking large amounts of rice so I would go for the 5 cup model myself(I'm a bachelor lol) it's actually big enough to cook rice for a family of four though unless your family is really a bunch of pigs lol

Heh I guess I might take the rice a little too seriously but it's really tasty stuff when cooked well.