Good read (partially quoted): How we would fight China

[arsbanned]

"The India-China two-way trade is now US$1 billion a month, compared to US$1 billion a year a decade ago. This twelve-fold increase in the last decade only goes to prove that though we are competitors in many respects, we are also complementary and supplementary to each other," an official statement said, quoting Kamal Nath. He also pointed out that if one takes ASEAN, China, Japan, Korea, and India together, the size of such an integrated market is that of the European Union in terms of income, and bigger than the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) in terms of trade.

 

[ntdz]

There is no way we'd lose a war to China, however, it's not something I ever want to see. When you look at China's recent history, they are a peaceful country, and I continue to believe they are to this day. I don't see China starting any wars, unless it relates to Taiwan. And the USA is sure as hell to not start a war.

Edit: As stated in the article, our navy has as much firepower as the rest of the world's navies put together. There are 36 aircraft carriers in operation in the world, we have 24 of them. China can't touch us.

 

[judasmachine]

the coming conflict with China will be an economic one. the powers that be don't care about their human rights record, that's just a tool they use to garner support. they know that china's economy is up and coming and could very well dominate the markets globally someday. this is what irks them so much. it will be a battle of industrial bases not military ones, unless we start to lose, then our guys will get desperate.

 

[Infohawk]

I'm not a fan of useless wars like Vietnam and Iraq, but I am a fan of being able to defend yourself against any possible aggressor. China is probably the biggest possible threat of the foreseeable future. It is possible if not likely that their economy will surpass ours and that they will gain a military edge that could ---for real--- jeopordize our freedom. How can we deal with that? 1) Make sure they develop democratically (remember democracies don't really fight each other too often) 2) keep up our work with science (and guess what that requires federal funding). I actually don't think this has to be too expensive. I think most of our military spending should be spent on WMDs (yes, I'm serious). MAD is not a bad defense. EDIT: stepping up the place and supporting democratic India is also a great idea.

 

[Whitecloak]

India will never trust China after the back-stabbing they encountered in 1965.

 

[Chinadefender]

India will never trust China after the back-stabbing they encountered in 1965.
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🙂O...More reading, less surfing Internet. The war is in 1962.

And border conflicts cannot be said as back-stabbing. And China initiatively returned all war prisoners and trophies back to India just after the war.China and India started their cultural and business communications long before Christianity was spreaded to Europe.

The point is that many countries worried about the saying "America always need an ememy", and cannot help asking "Who is the next"

Bush's doings has strengthened the suspicion.

Ally? Even British officials debate a lot about it. The article writer said about kicking off Atlantic, but many officials in Europe had said the same thing back.

Japan is the only choice when US went to military hostility against China, because it has been in fact occupited until now. But too much military cooperations will inevitably lead to a larger scale of suspicions about Japanese fascism among East Asia, and "target" worries among Europe and Russia.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Chinadefender
India will never trust China after the back-stabbing they encountered in 1965.
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🙂O...More reading, less surfing Internet. The war is in 1962.

And border conflicts cannot be said as back-stabbing. And China initiatively returned all war prisoners and trophies back to India just after the war.China and India started their cultural and business communications long before Christianity was spreaded to Europe.

The point is that many countries worried about the saying "America always need an ememy", and cannot help asking "Who is the next"

Bush's doings has strengthened the suspicion.

Ally? Even British officials debate a lot about it. The article writer said about kicking off Atlantic, but many officials in Europe had said the same thing back.

Japan is the only choice when US went to military hostility against China, because it has been in fact occupited until now. But too much military cooperations will inevitably lead to a larger scale of suspicions about Japanese fascism among East Asia, and "target" worries among Europe and Russia.

China worries the world as much if not more then the USA. SInce they're not as developed yet, they can "fly under the radar" for a while, but when it comes to allies, the USA has the advantage.

However, two nuclear powers are never going to go to war. Leaders are smart enough to know that nobody wins in that situation. Whatever happens, it will play out like a chess game.

 

[judasmachine]

there is one thorn in china's side that they are itching to remove. aegis destroyers in taiwan. just throwing it out there.

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Chinadefender
India will never trust China after the back-stabbing they encountered in 1965.
-------------------------------------------------------

🙂O...More reading, less surfing Internet. The war is in 1962.

And border conflicts cannot be said as back-stabbing. And China initiatively returned all war prisoners and trophies back to India just after the war.China and India started their cultural and business communications long before Christianity was spreaded to Europe.

The point is that many countries worried about the saying "America always need an ememy", and cannot help asking "Who is the next"

Bush's doings has strengthened the suspicion.

Ally? Even British officials debate a lot about it. The article writer said about kicking off Atlantic, but many officials in Europe had said the same thing back.

Japan is the only choice when US went to military hostility against China, because it has been in fact occupited until now. But too much military cooperations will inevitably lead to a larger scale of suspicions about Japanese fascism among East Asia, and "target" worries among Europe and Russia.

China worries the world as much if not more then the USA. SInce they're not as developed yet, they can "fly under the radar" for a while, but when it comes to allies, the USA has the advantage.

However, two nuclear powers are never going to go to war. Leaders are smart enough to know that nobody wins in that situation. Whatever happens, it will play out like a chess game.

perhaps "little" proxy wars?

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: judasmachine

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Chinadefender
India will never trust China after the back-stabbing they encountered in 1965.
-------------------------------------------------------

🙂O...More reading, less surfing Internet. The war is in 1962.

And border conflicts cannot be said as back-stabbing. And China initiatively returned all war prisoners and trophies back to India just after the war.China and India started their cultural and business communications long before Christianity was spreaded to Europe.

The point is that many countries worried about the saying "America always need an ememy", and cannot help asking "Who is the next"

Bush's doings has strengthened the suspicion.

Ally? Even British officials debate a lot about it. The article writer said about kicking off Atlantic, but many officials in Europe had said the same thing back.

Japan is the only choice when US went to military hostility against China, because it has been in fact occupited until now. But too much military cooperations will inevitably lead to a larger scale of suspicions about Japanese fascism among East Asia, and "target" worries among Europe and Russia.

China worries the world as much if not more then the USA. SInce they're not as developed yet, they can "fly under the radar" for a while, but when it comes to allies, the USA has the advantage.

However, two nuclear powers are never going to go to war. Leaders are smart enough to know that nobody wins in that situation. Whatever happens, it will play out like a chess game.

perhaps "little" proxy wars?

Like Korea and Vietnam?? They didn't solve much and I doubt that's the way it would play out. China has the advantage of dirt cheap labor, so they wpould rather fight it out economically. Look at what Japan has done and the strenght of the Yen. China is in a similar situation as Japan used to be, but take it times a factor of, I don't really know, say 100?? That is their economic potenial and the rest of the world knows it. On top of that they're already the closest thing to another superpower like the USSR used to be.

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: judasmachine

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Chinadefender
India will never trust China after the back-stabbing they encountered in 1965.
-------------------------------------------------------

🙂O...More reading, less surfing Internet. The war is in 1962.

And border conflicts cannot be said as back-stabbing. And China initiatively returned all war prisoners and trophies back to India just after the war.China and India started their cultural and business communications long before Christianity was spreaded to Europe.

The point is that many countries worried about the saying "America always need an ememy", and cannot help asking "Who is the next"

Bush's doings has strengthened the suspicion.

Ally? Even British officials debate a lot about it. The article writer said about kicking off Atlantic, but many officials in Europe had said the same thing back.

Japan is the only choice when US went to military hostility against China, because it has been in fact occupited until now. But too much military cooperations will inevitably lead to a larger scale of suspicions about Japanese fascism among East Asia, and "target" worries among Europe and Russia.

China worries the world as much if not more then the USA. SInce they're not as developed yet, they can "fly under the radar" for a while, but when it comes to allies, the USA has the advantage.

However, two nuclear powers are never going to go to war. Leaders are smart enough to know that nobody wins in that situation. Whatever happens, it will play out like a chess game.

perhaps "little" proxy wars?

Like Korea and Vietnam?? They didn't solve much and I doubt that's the way it would play out. China has the advantage of dirt cheap labor, so they wpould rather fight it out economically. Look at what Japan has done and the strenght of the Yen. China is in a similar situation as Japan used to be, but take it times a factor of, I don't really know, say 100?? That is their economic potenial and the rest of the world knows it. On top of that they're already the closest thing to another superpower like the USSR used to be.

I agree for the most part, just offering food for thought really. Yes Korea and Vietnam were new lows for us, and ultimately useless. Well unless you live in Seoul, and not worshipping what's his name.

[edit for spelling. apparently my grasp on the language is at a major low also.]

 

[Whitecloak]

Originally posted by: Chinadefender
India will never trust China after the back-stabbing they encountered in 1965.
-------------------------------------------------------

🙂O...More reading, less surfing Internet. The war is in 1962.

And border conflicts cannot be said as back-stabbing. And China initiatively returned all war prisoners and trophies back to India just after the war.China and India started their cultural and business communications long before Christianity was spreaded to Europe.

The point is that many countries worried about the saying "America always need an ememy", and cannot help asking "Who is the next"

Bush's doings has strengthened the suspicion.

Ally? Even British officials debate a lot about it. The article writer said about kicking off Atlantic, but many officials in Europe had said the same thing back.

Japan is the only choice when US went to military hostility against China, because it has been in fact occupited until now. But too much military cooperations will inevitably lead to a larger scale of suspicions about Japanese fascism among East Asia, and "target" worries among Europe and Russia.

My mistake. I was thinking of another war.

I live in India and the general perception among the intelligentsia is that the Chinese ought to be treated with caution.

 

[arsbanned]

More or less caution than the U.S.?

 

[Whitecloak]

Originally posted by: arsbanned
More or less caution than the U.S.?

The average Indian would strongly prefer association with the US than with China. I cannot speak for the establishment though.

 

[Chinadefender]

It is normal to be with cautions.🙂

The point would be the current and expeected policies.