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Originally posted by: frostedflakes
A lot of stuff I don't really agree with. Fortunately the VP is pretty powerless compared to the President, so I'm not that worried.

But why do so many Democrats claim Dick Cheny is pulling Bush's strings?
 
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
And as VP or even President he will no longer be sponsoring Bills for the RIAA and the MPAA. Sounds like a win to me.

Yeah, we'll have him as President of the Senate, and in the 2nd most powerful executive position in the US.

We're going to be hearing a lot from "Old Joe"

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What and you think it would be different with that old crank McCain as President who just discovered the Internet last week?

That just means he hasn't been subject to the horrors of the internet like goat se, *****, or lemon party.
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
A lot of stuff I don't really agree with. Fortunately the VP is pretty powerless compared to the President, so I'm not that worried.

But why do so many Democrats claim Dick Cheny is pulling Bush's strings?

I'd guess Biden is too much of a showoff to pull Obama's strings from the shadows. He's too much of a pompous prick to not be in the spotlight and is probably going to overshadow his so called 'boss'.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: bamacre
These days the only thing that matters to people is that little R or D next to the name. They'll vote for the one that has raped them less, either less often, less violently, or less recently. What matters are not the issues, not political philosophies, but how much lube is being used and what flavor it is.

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"Join the Libertarian Party."

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Then go out and waste your vote."

 

Pliablemoose

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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
A lot of stuff I don't really agree with. Fortunately the VP is pretty powerless compared to the President, so I'm not that worried.

But why do so many Democrats claim Dick Cheny is pulling Bush's strings?

I'd guess Biden is too much of a showoff to pull Obama's strings from the shadows. He's too much of a pompous prick to not be in the spotlight and is probably going to overshadow his so called 'boss'.

I think Obama is acutely aware of this, have you seen the campaign sign?

http://blogsforjohnmccain.com/...as-enormous-ego-photos
 

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
And as VP or even President he will no longer be sponsoring Bills for the RIAA and the MPAA. Sounds like a win to me.

As the current administration has taught us, its not the bills being sponsored as much as it is the influence they have over bills being sponsored. ;)
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: bamacre
These days the only thing that matters to people is that little R or D next to the name. They'll vote for the one that has raped them less, either less often, less violently, or less recently. What matters are not the issues, not political philosophies, but how much lube is being used and what flavor it is.

Hehehehehehehehe!

"You people are all so damn stupid you screw yourselves"

"You are all totally fucked and it's all your fault."

"Wake up people and smell the coffee."

"Join the Libertarian Party."

"See the light and ring freedom's bell."

"Join with us is Savior's Hell."

"You too can howl and shout invective."

"And learn what it means to be inept and ineffective."

"Learn to piss and moan by rote."

Then go out and waste your vote."

Hehehehehehehehe!

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"As long as the Republicans don't win."

"The Corporate Lobbyists in bed with the Democrats fuck better."

"We should sanction Iran, because they are a threat to the US (and Obama said so)."

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"The Democrats never voted for the war in Iraq, and want peace with Iran."

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"Bill Clinton created an economic boom, and Al Gore invented the internet!"

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Originally posted by: frostedflakes
A lot of stuff I don't really agree with. Fortunately the VP is pretty powerless compared to the President, so I'm not that worried.

:) Psssst...this is 2008....where you been the last 8 years? :)
 

Farang

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Originally posted by: Tab
Meh. As a future software developer it's hard to find sympathy for those whom are constantly pirating material and then hide behind "privacy rights".

I'd say you're mostly right. I hate the MPAA and RIAA and whatnot but mostly it is because I do things they don't like.
 

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Barack Obama is selling people on promises to ?update and reform our copyright and patent systems to promote civic discourse, innovation and investment while ensuring that intellectual property owners are fairly treated.? However Obama?s new running mate has a track record for voting against the consumer in tech issues.

According to CNet?s Declan McCullough, Joe Biden traditionally has supported the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA)?s draconian measures against consumers.

Biden became a staunch ally of Hollywood and the recording industry in their efforts to expand copyright law. He sponsored a bill in 2002 that would have make it a federal felony to trick certain types of devices into playing unauthorized music or executing unapproved computer programs. Biden?s bill was backed by content companies including News Corp. but eventually died after Verizon, Microsoft, Apple, eBay, and Yahoo lobbied against it.

A few months later, Biden signed a letter that urged the Justice Department ?to prosecute individuals who intentionally allow mass copying from their computer over peer-to-peer networks.? Critics of this approach said that the Motion Picture Association of America and the Recording Industry Association of America, and not taxpayers, should pay for their own lawsuits.

Last year, Biden sponsored an RIAA-backed bill called the Perform Act aimed at restricting Americans? ability to record and play back individual songs from satellite and Internet radio services. (The RIAA sued XM Satellite Radio over precisely this point.)

So far Biden has refused to comment on his current stance on tech issues. According to GamePolitics Biden?s strong support of Intellectual Property rights is ironic in that he?s been nailed twice for plagiarism himself.

Biden?s past choices call to question what stance the potential Vice-President might take as the video game and electronic entertainment industries are weathering continual discussion regarding governmental regulation and the potential limitation or censoring of products made available on the US market. His traditional anti-consumer stance could mean he?d favor regulation over self-policing.

Change? catering to the RIAA and MPAA is change?

Sounds like the same old song and dance to me..a politician catering to industry groups.

Which is more important to Biden?

His political future and success with Obama?

Or his buddies at the RIAA and MPAA.
 

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Yeah, I really like Obama. That said, I really dislike Biden's proven record over MANY years of being 100% in the pocket(s) of the MPAA / RIAA. It makes me sick, actually, that our tax dollars are wasted by continually propping up an outdated and inefficient business model simply because the businesspeople in charge of said business model do not want to change with the times.
 

Red Dawn

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Sounds like a great reason to get him out of the Senate where he can do harm and make him VP where he is more or less harmless.
 

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The "tech" candidate of the future is clearly McCain :laugh:
 

Pliablemoose

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Biden is a horrible choice. IMHO he taints Obama's run.

I fucking hate Hillary, but would rather she got the nod over Biden.
 

manowar821

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Christ. So that's how he's going to pander to the mafIAA without pissing us off directly. Very clever...
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Sounds like a great reason to get him out of the Senate where he can do harm and make him VP where he is more or less harmless.

Im liking Biden as VP more and more each day!

I can imagine the RIAA and MPAA aren't enjoying the idea of Biden getting out of congress.

 

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Better than McCain. Anything else is irrelevant, unimportant, and if you try to say anything bad about Obama or Biden, I will cover my ears and yell "lalalalalalalaala I cannot hear you lalalalalalalaalalalala."