Good Ram for A64 3200+

[faye]

Hi all,

I am currently using Corsair and Geil (total of 1.5gb of ram)

Do i need to change another brand? sometimes i got a feeling it is the ram making my system unstable. It will turn itself of all of a sudden.

So i guess the ram is doing all the bad things, now i don't overclock even i put all those Aquagate and Zalman HSF... but still happens the same..
I am going to exchange the PSU soon...
the other hand, i want to change my ram, what brand is good for AMD cpu?
I think i will tend to overclock after an year.

Thanks

 

[Atheus]

You are running 2T timings right? A64 is not stable with 1T and 4 DIMMs. Assuming you are running 2T, Do the PSU swap (Antec sucks) and if that doesn't fix it try removing the 2x256 and just running the Corsair.

The memory that is good for you depends on how/what you intend to overclock. If you just want the best of the best - get something with TCCD chips.

 

[faye]

i just want stable...

2T? do you mean the Latency?

 

[GeeFizzleDizzle]

Originally posted by: Atheus
(Antec sucks)

You are obviously an idiot.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: GeeFizzleDizzle

Originally posted by: Atheus
(Antec sucks)

You are obviously an idiot.

Watch it noob - personal attacks not allowed here. I've had several Antecs, all have failed, one went bang and took other components with it. OK, they are better than a $10 Taiwanese box, but not as good as other cheaper options like Fortron/Sparkle.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: faye
i just want stable...

2T? do you mean the Latency?

It's usually called 'command per clock' or CPC in the BIOS - the options are either 1T/2T or enable/disable where enable=1T. 1 is faster (takes only 1 cycle to send a command) but is generally unstable with 4 dimms.

 

[faye]

as i remember, mine is 2T and enable, i can't remember the wording, but there are two "enable" at the bottom of the page.

 

[potato28]

Just get 2 1 gig sticks. It looks like u game, and the DDR prices are gonna go up with AM2 release.

 

[catalysts17az]

Atheus the majority of my sytems in the past were antec or Thermaltake. no problems with either of them. However in your opinion what PSU would you recommend aside from Forton and sparkle, and what is your take with these two. Clearly we need to create a topic on PSU. but to the faye, if you have the cash go with gskill pc 4000. when your ready to OC, they do a hell of job! 2 X 1Gb sticks go for 180 bones (@newegg)but worth it and this is for 2 gigs. I disagree with potato28, I THINK (based in theory, OK im guessing) as AM2 comes out memory companies will just leave there value line for sale in the DDR sector. its what has happened to PC 100 and 133 chip parts. so pick up the good stuff before its gone and prices goes up on them. some choices that are good are the Crucial ballistix, OCZ gold or platinum editions, kingston hyper X, patriot with red heatspreaders, G-Skill and there are many others but some of the best are already gone the VX chips from OCZ and the redline series from Mushkin became extinct this past January. So i do agree withpatato28 get 2 X 1Gb sticks, and dont worry......Youll Be happy with them.

 

[faye]

i am at the last stage deciding which to get..
i got around $200 for 2G ram.. I want it to run at dual channel..
so whcih do you suggest?

Let say i want to overclock in the future.
Is getting CAS 2.5 and CAS 3.0 a different in AMD system? i heard that AMD only wants CAS at 3.0, is it true?

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Before one of the oldest battles in the book erupts in here, the failure rate of products like antec and thermaltake are not much worse than any other major manufacturer at the price point. The total production numbers for such companies are too astromical to even attempt to measure even by the means of the anandtech user base. That being said, in truely high performance and power demanding systems, companies like these do not have a product that can adequately measure up against many other manufactureres. If there is going to be any PSU bashing it needs to find a new home, quickly. Different system have very different needs and for that matter the same system in two different users hands can run very differently. There are quite a few people around here who know more about PSU's than most of us will, ever, and there are some very good guide's for purchasing power supplies elsewhere on the web. In comparison to manufacturers like FSP, Supermicro, eMacs(not emachines) and other antec and thermaltake powersupplies do not make the grade.

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Originally posted by: faye
i am at the last stage deciding which to get..
i got around $200 for 2G ram.. I want it to run at dual channel..
so whcih do you suggest?

Let say i want to overclock in the future.
Is getting CAS 2.5 and CAS 3.0 a different in AMD system? i heard that AMD only wants CAS at 3.0, is it true?

A64 platforms do not NEED cas 3.0 however, they are not as highly affected by the move to CAS3 from lower settings because of the on-die memory controller.

If you are in the $200 range and looking for 2GB you have A LOT of options. I personally reccomend OCZ for their performance and support. There is a price premium for their platinum sticks of ram but, in my experience it is well worth it. For $200 you could easily get a 2GB kit of OCZ platinum DDR500.

 

[Malladine]

you guys realize that "better" ram timings do nothing to improve performance right? Gaming or otherwise...

just thought i'd let ya know.

Potato knows what's up. OCZ, Crucial, Corsair, Kingston and Geil are all good. You're lookin for pc3200 (ddr400).

 

[the cobbler]

Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12

Originally posted by: faye
i am at the last stage deciding which to get..
i got around $200 for 2G ram.. I want it to run at dual channel..
so whcih do you suggest?

Let say i want to overclock in the future.
Is getting CAS 2.5 and CAS 3.0 a different in AMD system? i heard that AMD only wants CAS at 3.0, is it true?

A64 platforms do not NEED cas 3.0 however, they are not as highly affected by the move to CAS3 from lower settings because of the on-die memory controller.

If you are in the $200 range and looking for 2GB you have A LOT of options. I personally reccomend OCZ for their performance and support. There is a price premium for their platinum sticks of ram but, in my experience it is well worth it. For $200 you could easily get a 2GB kit of OCZ platinum DDR500.

any good PC4000 DDR1 2x1GB kit will do
many good ones can be had for $200 or less
keep with good brands like Patriot, Mushkin, G.skill, Geil, TeamGroup, etc.

you will see a lot of different timing sets on these PC4000 but mostly they will be:

3,4,3,8 or 3,4,4,8 @ 250mhz 2.6v-2.8v

3,4,2,8 or 3,3,2,8 @ 250mhz 2.7v-2.9v

first ones are Samsung UCCC, which clock a bit higher consistently but with looser timings

second ones are probably Infineon chips, they don't clock to 270-280mhz as consistently as UCCC, but they run with somewhat tighter timings. When they do reach 280-300mhz+, they still do it with tight timings, i.e. 3,3,2,8

just bit of info in case you want to research the merits of either kind before you buy. Infineon is technically faster (tighter timings, even at lower speeds) than UCCC. but ymmv of course.

 

[mancunian]

Originally posted by: GeeFizzleDizzle

Originally posted by: Atheus
(Antec sucks)

You are obviously an idiot.

:thumbsdown:

Little bit harsh that, without asking the guy why he has that opinion.

That Antec PSU in the original poster's system is one that I compared with this.

The Tagan has 28A on its 12v rail yet is rated at 480W. The Antec is rated at something similar but has 22A, and loses in all other comparisons bar one. Also, build quality between the Tagan and Antec differs quite a bit.

Antecs are not what they were. Your comment above was at best, fanboyish. At worst, insulting.

It helps to keep abreast of hardware developments, what may have been a good manufacturer a year ago, can turn into a less than reputable one pretty quickly with a couple of duff products.

Antec are doing the wattage con, dishonest of them. :disgust: They can f#ck off with their power supply products for that. They can't really con me if they sell me a case, well, you would hope not. Tagan PSUs batter the Antecs, yet cost about the same.

The above is just an FYI for some among us who may be sticking with a product because of its name. You should know that GeeFizzleDizzle, you run an Asrock dual sata board. Quite a lot of people still have a similar attitude towards their products.

I don't though, coz I run one meself. And I love it, it's a great board. :thumbsup: