Good News for Libs - Creepy Joe has massive lead in the Polls!

[KillerBee]

I wouldn't argue with any of what you said cytg111
Thanks

 

[cytg111]

I wouldn't argue with any of what you said cytg111
Thanks

No problem man.
Was it unproblematic? No. Does it rip Joe a new one? I dont think so.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Creepy Joe, lol. *Looks at current POTUS*, LOL....

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

But with that Biden Family Affair and Russian/Ukraine Connection
You can be guaranteed the knives will come out soon
and those other Democratic Challengers will finally start talking about it all.

Thoughts?

clearly you have none of your own

 

[cytg111]

I actually read the title as Roy (Moore) and not Joe.

 

[Bitek]

Thoughts?

If the best you all can come up with is "Creepy Joe" then you guys are in real trouble.

Poll some third graders for more creative insults.

 

[IJTSSG]

Biden- "China is going to eat our lunch? Come on, man. They can’t even figure out how to deal with the fact that they have this great division between the China Sea and the mountains in the east, I mean in the west. They can’t figure out how they are going to deal with the corruption that exists within the system. I mean, you know, they’re not bad folks, folks. But guess what, they’re not competition for us.”

I mentioned this in another thread and the internets leading idiot told me I'd been duped by right wing media. Whatever.

Biden had to walk this back over the last couple days but that's an incredibly dumb thing to say. IP theft alone has cost US business's hundreds of billions of dollars if not more.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Read it and weep OP.

 

[fskimospy]

Biden- "China is going to eat our lunch? Come on, man. They can’t even figure out how to deal with the fact that they have this great division between the China Sea and the mountains in the east, I mean in the west. They can’t figure out how they are going to deal with the corruption that exists within the system. I mean, you know, they’re not bad folks, folks. But guess what, they’re not competition for us.”

I mentioned this in another thread and the internets leading idiot told me I'd been duped by right wing media. Whatever.

Biden had to walk this back over the last couple days but that's an incredibly dumb thing to say. IP theft alone has cost US business's hundreds of billions of dollars if not more.

Poochie thinks I’m the #1 idiot on the Internet? That’s very flattering. I do know how to use apostrophes though, so perhaps I’m only the #2 idiot. Haha. Also funny that a Trump supporter is mad about a politician saying dumb things. Lol.

Share some more 90’s insults with us, Poochie! TO THE EXTREME!

 

[HomerJS]

Biden- "China is going to eat our lunch? Come on, man. They can’t even figure out how to deal with the fact that they have this great division between the China Sea and the mountains in the east, I mean in the west. They can’t figure out how they are going to deal with the corruption that exists within the system. I mean, you know, they’re not bad folks, folks. But guess what, they’re not competition for us.”

I mentioned this in another thread and the internets leading idiot told me I'd been duped by right wing media. Whatever.

Biden had to walk this back over the last couple days but that's an incredibly dumb thing to say. IP theft alone has cost US business's hundreds of billions of dollars if not more.

This is the first time I've heard people stealing from us as "competitors".

Then again maybe you are Trumpsplaining

 

[HomerJS]

BTW - Joe doesn't even come close to King of the creep meter then this guy...
Donald Trump OK with calling daughter Ivanka Trump 'piece of a**' on Howard Stern show


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...f-ass-howard-stern-audio-listen-a7352326.html

 

[IJTSSG]

Poochie thinks I’m the #1 idiot on the Internet? That’s very flattering. I do know how to use apostrophes though, so perhaps I’m only the #2 idiot. Haha. Also funny that a Trump supporter is mad about a politician saying dumb things. Lol.

Share some more 90’s insults with us, Poochie! TO THE EXTREME!

I'm curious, do you have an alert set up for when I post or are you doing a periodic manual search so you don't miss an opportunity to comment.

BTW, I own three houses so I really don't need to live rent free between your ears. I appreciate the opportunity though.

#internetsleadingidiot #stalker

 

[fskimospy]

I'm curious, do you have an alert set up for when I post or are you doing a periodic manual search so you don't miss an opportunity to comment.

BTW, I own three houses so I really don't need to live rent free between your ears. I appreciate the opportunity though.

#internetsleadingidiot #stalker

The guy who is still so mad that he’s referencing an argument in another thread, unprompted, wants me to know that he’s living rent free between my ears. Hahaha. Poochie, do you think things through before you post? I’m very proud of you for owning three houses though. Your vast real estate empire totally makes your weird internet rants less stupid.

I reply to you because you’re easy to tease and you react with funny old man rants when I do it. Did you not learn anything from middle school? If you reacted more maturely I would make fun of you less.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Read it and weep OP.

Fake news! Liberal tears!

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Fake news! Liberal tears!

The last election I followed that site and polls listed were very good. When candidates were matched up on the Dem side they showed things that triggered many but ultimately they called it dead on in primaries and got the measure of Hillary's popularity down pat. No one took Trump seriously early on but his being a joke candidate was taken into account and their predictions, in the end, were within the margin of error.

People on both side (yep I said that) may not like some things but that's irrelevant. So now Trump has a chance of besting one major contender by one point. While Biden isn't my ideal candidate he's far better than The Thing that Conquered the Republicans. If it happens that he wins the nomination he'll likely be better received than Hillary but then if he has a strong younger VP that the public finds appealing and not entirely beholden to the Powers that Be, then he may be impossible for Trump to get anywhere near a decent showing in comparison. I think Biden would be a good transitional President between the old guard and the newer generations who can't relate to those in power at the moment.

Will I vote for Biden? If he's the pick then yes and I'll be able to continue to look at myself in the mirror without shame.

 

[ch33zw1z]

The last election I followed that site and polls listed were very good. When candidates were matched up on the Dem side they showed things that triggered many but ultimately they called it dead on in primaries and got the measure of Hillary's popularity down pat. No one took Trump seriously early on but his being a joke candidate was taken into account and their predictions, in the end, were within the margin of error.

People on both side (yep I said that) may not like some things but that's irrelevant. So now Trump has a chance of besting one major contender by one point. While Biden isn't my ideal candidate he's far better than The Thing that Conquered the Republicans. If it happens that he wins the nomination he'll likely be better received than Hillary but then if he has a strong younger VP that the public finds appealing and not entirely beholden to the Powers that Be, then he may be impossible for Trump to get anywhere near a decent showing in comparison. I think Biden would be a good transitional President between the old guard and the newer generations who can't relate to those in power at the moment.

Will I vote for Biden? If he's the pick then yes and I'll be able to continue to look at myself in the mirror without shame.

Yep, I'll vote for Biden if he wins the primary, I'd be more enthusiastic if he does like you state and get some young blood for a VP.

 

[obidamnkenobi]

Seems like there are plenty of existing reasons to not be very enthusiastic about Biden as candidate. He's not exactly inspiring. When your main selling point is "I don't support Nazis" that's setting the bar pretty low. He seems like the bland 'business as usual' candidate to me, and his track record is of being 'moderate' to the point of being centre-right. His record on abortion, Anita Hill, gay marriage....Even disregarding all the excessively-handsy stuff, or even the identity-politics stuff. Not up to me, but I'd be disappointed if the Dems go with him.

I need to look into biden more, but he does seem like more or less Hillary in creepy-uncle (or grandpa) form. Business wing of Dem party, hawkish foreign policy, late to the party or righ-ish on cultural issues (i.e. gay marriage. He wanted to "expand war on drugs", ugh). Extremely uninspiring choice if he gets the nomination, and quite possible he loose to Trump. He's an old white man so that'll play well with "white-male SJW" voters, but you can't out-racist trump so I doubt it. He'll probably try to seem "radical" with gun control proposals, since that doesn't threaten the big business donors, but be totally milk-toast on everything else.

 

[1prophet]

Biden is running for one reason alone, to placate corporate America who fears a Warren or a Sanders becoming president,

but because our so called liberal democrat establishment hates Trump so much they will send another fox into the hen house, no different than those that hated Hillary so much and then voted for Trump to their detriment as they are now finding out.

Wall Street critics and 2020 Democrats Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders take aim at Joe Biden's corporate ties

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/26/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-attack-joe-biden-corporate-ties.html

Sens. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., and Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., both appeared to take shots at former Vice President Joe Biden in his first official day on the campaign trail.


Their remarks offered some of the first intraparty criticism to emerge from the pool of at least 20 Democrats running to defeat President Donald Trump in the 2020 election. When Biden joined the race Thursday, he was widely viewed as an instant front-runner.


On Thursday, Sanders' campaign sent a shot across the bow at Biden in response to a reported fundraiser in Philadelphia on Thursday evening at the home of Comcast Senior Executive Vice President David Cohen. Comcast owns CNBC parent NBCUniversal.




In an email to supporters sent Thursday under the subject line "Joe Biden," the self-described democratic socialist's campaign wrote: "It's a big day in the Democratic primary and we're hoping to end it strong. Not with a fundraiser in the home of a corporate lobbyist, but with an overwhelming number of individual donations."


Warren, meanwhile, dredged up her past criticisms of Biden's record on financial issues during his three decades in the Senate.


"Joe Biden was on the side of credit card companies," Warren said Thursday at an event in Iowa when asked about Biden's relationship to Wall Street, according to The New York Times.


Her disagreement with Biden over bankruptcy legislation "is a matter of public record," she said.




Sens. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., and Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., both appeared to take shots at former Vice President Joe Biden in his first official day on the campaign trail.

Their remarks offered some of the first intraparty criticism to emerge from the pool of at least 20 Democrats running to defeat President Donald Trump in the 2020 election. When Biden joined the race Thursday, he was widely viewed as an instant front-runner.

On Thursday, Sanders' campaign sent a shot across the bow at Biden in response to a reported fundraiser in Philadelphia on Thursday evening at the home of Comcast Senior Executive Vice President David Cohen. Comcast owns CNBC parent NBCUniversal.



In an email to supporters sent Thursday under the subject line "Joe Biden," the self-described democratic socialist's campaign wrote: "It's a big day in the Democratic primary and we're hoping to end it strong. Not with a fundraiser in the home of a corporate lobbyist, but with an overwhelming number of individual donations."

Warren, meanwhile, dredged up her past criticisms of Biden's record on financial issues during his three decades in the Senate.

"Joe Biden was on the side of credit card companies," Warren said Thursday at an event in Iowa when asked about Biden's relationship to Wall Street, according to The New York Times.

Her disagreement with Biden over bankruptcy legislation "is a matter of public record," she said.




Indeed, Warren targeted Biden in her 2014 autobiography for his sponsorship of a bill supported by the financial services industry that tightened rules on consumers seeking bankruptcy protections.

"The Senate was evenly split between the two parties, but one of the bill's lead sponsors was Democratic powerhouse Joe Biden, and right behind him were plenty of other Democrats offering to help," Warren wrote, the Times reported. "Never mind that the country was sunk in an ugly recession and millions of families were struggling — the banking industry pressed forward and Congress obliged."


Warren's campaign did not respond to CNBC's inquiry about her remarks. Biden's campaign and Sanders' campaign declined to comment.


In less than one full day as a 2020 presidential candidate, Biden had already received more criticism from his fellow Democrats' campaigns than any other candidate in his party.


"There's a saying in politics: 'You try to tackle the one with the ball,'" said Philadelphia-based Democratic strategist Aren Platt. "Until Biden emerged, I don't think there was a clear ball runner."


Both Warren and Sanders, who is running for president as a Democrat, have established reputations as critics and watchdogs of corporate interests and big banks.


Biden, on the other hand, was singled out for his corporate ties during his years in the Senate. With the money primary well underway, Biden's early fundraising efforts have already drawn scrutiny from Democrats who have championed small-dollar donations.


"Because Biden been in this position for so long, the people who he was friends with, his contemporaries, have risen to the highest levels," Platt said. "That's Joe Biden's social circle ... the challenge for him and his campaign will be bridging that gap."


Among the Democrats running in 2020, Warren, a former Harvard law professor, has been among the most vocal about policy. She has shared her plans for breaking up tech giants including Amazon and Apple, as well as raising revenue by slapping a new tax on corporate profits over $100 million.


Sanders proffered legislation last October to break up the big banks.


Predictably, Trump and Republicans have not held back in taking early swings at Biden.


"I'm a young, vibrant man!" Trump, 72, told reporters outside the White House on Friday. "I look at Joe, I don't know about him. I don't know." Biden is 76.


Republican officials have laid out their own strategy on Biden: compare Trump's economic record with Biden's during President Barack Obama's two-term presidency.

https://theweek.com/articles/830035/joe-biden-about-ruin-reputation

Setting personal history aside, Biden's actual policy record is probably almost as big of a potential problem. The Democratic Party has shifted markedly to the left over the last decade, as the consequences of the party's policy record from the mid-1970s to 2008 have become clear. The financial crisis made Wall Street deregulation seem like the catastrophic error it in fact was, clockwork police shootings of unarmed African-Americans have shown the enormous harms of the war on crime, the skyrocketing burden of student loans has demonstrated the folly of the 2005 bankruptcy bill, and so on.


This turn is to a great extent a response to Biden's very career, because he was personally involved in almost every bad policy decision of the last 40 years. He pushed the party away from civil rights, starting his career with George Wallace-style duplicitous fearmongering about school integration. Here's an excerpt from a 1975 interview:

The new integration plans being offered are really just quota-systems to assure a certain number of blacks, Chicanos, or whatever in each school. That, to me, is the most racist concept you can come up with; what it says is, "in order for your child with curly black hair, brown eyes, and dark skin to be able to learn anything, he needs to sit next to my blond-haired, blue-eyed son." That's racist! [Biden, via Congressional Record]​

I dunno, I could think of more racist things than that, like the terror-enforced Jim Crow caste system that segregationists like Sen. Strom Thurmond (R-S.C.) worked to protect. Biden, naturally, eulogized Thurmond in 2003.


Biden was a major engine behind mass incarceration, constantly whipping up fear of crime, demanding harsher sentences, and writing bills to that effect. "I don't care why someone is a malefactor in society," he said in a 1993 speech. As Ta-Nehisi Coates points out, "He wasn’t trying to compromise with the Republicans. This was actually an attempt to get to the right of Republicans."



As a loyal toady of the large corporations (especially finance, insurance, and credit cards) that put their headquarters in Delaware because its suborned government allows them to evade regulations in other states, Biden voted for repeated rounds of deregulation in multiple areas and helped roll back anti-trust policy — often siding with Republicans in the process. He was a key architect of the infamous 2005 bankruptcy reform bill which made means tests much more strict and near-impossible to discharge student loans in bankruptcy.


He also voted for the most idiotic foreign policy blunder in American history — namely the 2003 invasion of Iraq.


Then there is the fact that Biden is not very good at campaigning. He's infamously gaffe-prone — which made for an amusing contrast with the preternaturally-controlled Obama, but is also a big part of why both his previous campaigns for president flamed out almost immediately.


Biden currently enjoys the glow from the Obama era, which for all its major flaws was at least not nearly as bad as what we are experiencing under Trump. But if he becomes an official contender, candidates from all sides are going to tear into his hide. Opposition researchers are going to dig up whatever they can find on his personal foibles, and his Democratic competitors are going to savage his record on the war on crime and Wall Street. Elizabeth Warren in particular is guaranteed to attack him over the bankruptcy bill, which she correctly predicted at the time was going to be a disaster.


It's not going to be pretty. If I were him, I'd sit back and enjoy the most comfortable retirement that could possibly be imagined.

 

[Starbuck1975]

I suppose we can just ignore numerous news agencies reviving a decades old “feud” between Biden and Warren over corporate interests, with Warren and Sanders now attacking Biden from the left, echoing some of the criticisms against Clinton.

There also many articles cautioning that Biden is building his entire campaign around “electability”, going down the same path that doomed Clinton.

Like it or not, the right wing media is pushing hard on the whole Biden’s son Ukraine conflict of interest, and even CNN briefly reported on it.

This will be Biden’s first of many tests for how he will counter the Trump misinformation machine.

 

[dawp]

The last election I followed that site and polls listed were very good. When candidates were matched up on the Dem side they showed things that triggered many but ultimately they called it dead on in primaries and got the measure of Hillary's popularity down pat. No one took Trump seriously early on but his being a joke candidate was taken into account and their predictions, in the end, were within the margin of error.

People on both side (yep I said that) may not like some things but that's irrelevant. So now Trump has a chance of besting one major contender by one point. While Biden isn't my ideal candidate he's far better than The Thing that Conquered the Republicans. If it happens that he wins the nomination he'll likely be better received than Hillary but then if he has a strong younger VP that the public finds appealing and not entirely beholden to the Powers that Be, then he may be impossible for Trump to get anywhere near a decent showing in comparison. I think Biden would be a good transitional President between the old guard and the newer generations who can't relate to those in power at the moment.

Will I vote for Biden? If he's the pick then yes and I'll be able to continue to look at myself in the mirror without shame.

there's very few dems I would not vote for in the general and it's the opposite for repubs, it would take someone to buck the the establishment GOP for me to vote for them, but then they wouldn't be a repubican now would they.

more and more are leaving the gop because of trump.

 

[Moonbeam]

Good News for Libs - Creepy Joe has massive lead in the Polls!

But with that Biden Family Affair and Russian/Ukraine Connection
You can be guaranteed the knives will come out soon
and those other Democratic Challengers will finally start talking about it all.

Thoughts?

Yes I do. It makes me think of the venomous snake in the Bible that creeps on its belly into the Garden to spread its poisonous words around, How it slithers and hisses and tries to spread the poison of doubt division and malevolence around. You have an old story we have all been warned about. But long slow exposure to poisonous intent can bring toxic immunity. Thanks for the refresh. Nam, et si ambulavero in medio umbrae mortis, non timebo mala .....

 

[obidamnkenobi]

Pretty much why biden is running:
When Centrists Tell You They'll Go Fash Before Paying More Taxes, Believe Them

 

[dawp]

Pretty much why biden is running:
When Centrists Tell You They'll Go Fash Before Paying More Taxes, Believe Them

if they lean fascist they ain't centrist, they're fascist.

 

[Genx87]

But with that Biden Family Affair and Russian/Ukraine Connection
You can be guaranteed the knives will come out soon
and those other Democratic Challengers will finally start talking about it all.

Thoughts?

Biden would had wiped his ass with Trump in 2016. But it was time for cronyism to be embraced by the DNC. Should be interesting to see if the DNC makes the same mistake twice. Biden would crush Trump. But I think they have other plans that dont include running a well like old white guy.

 

[Vic]

If only 'Creepy' Joe grabbed 'em by the pussy, worked directly with the Russians to rig the election, obstructed justice wrt the investigation of said election, and kept his financials secret so that no one would know how much of the taxpayers money he was stealing, then the OP would vote for him.