Good news for America - More billionares than ever

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: kkeennyy
Without employers there can be no employees. Good for them and their success. I can only aspire to join the club one day.

Their success? Like being born into a rich family? Or the other kind of success?

This is good for the billionaires, not America.

 

[carldon]

The rich will keep getting richer and the poor, poorer. Unless you've got some real fools and some real intelligent people on either side, no one is going from one side to the other.
One thing I've seen though, ironically, the people who do charity and help arent the ones with the money, its usually the ones without. But so is this world, with fools who think money will bring them happiness no matter how they earn it or keep it.

CD.

 

[AntiEverything]

What's truly hilarious is to look at who the Democrats think should replace Bush - one of those evil billionaires.

Hypocrites. All of you.

Edit: And one that made his billions by marrying a woman who inherited it. Talk about a charmed life. :roll:

 

[lordtyranus]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: kkeennyy
Without employers there can be no employees. Good for them and their success. I can only aspire to join the club one day.

Their success? Like being born into a rich family? Or the other kind of success?

This is good for the billionaires, not America.

If I recall, nearly every billionaire is self-made. The number was in the upper 200s. Some of the exceptions are the walton family.

Of the self-made billionaires, some (such as Warren Buffett - a US investor) got on the list because they are astute investors. But the vast majority get there because they pioneered something new and useful

http://www.thecis.ca/articles/billionaire.htm

 

[Dissipate]

The left wing Marxist rhetoric in this thread is gut-wrenching. The fact that there are more billionares than ever is not a bad thing, in fact, we know a priori that concentrations of wealth are NECESSARY for a thriving economy. If no one made enough money beyond the threshold of consumption, who the hell would be able to start a business? This is a no-brainer. In fact, if everyone just made enough money to live on, and nothing more, the whole economy would collapse.

 

[HamSupLo]

cool, the bush tax relief is working. let the wealth trickle down!

 

[Genx87]

Micheal Dell - 47,800 Employees
Bill Gates - 58,000 Employees
Oracle(Lawrence Ellinson) 41,600 Employees
Walmart - 1.5Million employees
Google - 2000 employees
Amazon.com - 8000 employees

I agree, it is good for america that we have more billionaires than ever. Good for John Kerry also that his Wife made the list. But it looks like Bush and Cheneys name are absent from it.

Their success? Like being born into a rich family? Or the other kind of success?

Yeah because we know Micheal Dell and Bill Gates were just born into wealth like this.

btw from the article which pretty much destroys your argument.

Only 50 names remain of the original 400 from the list's debut in 1982. While some died or divvied up their assets, more than half were simply surpassed.


I guess the 350 new members were just born into money that was created out of thin air?

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Why do Libs think it's a zero sum game?

If you want to live somewhere with fewer billionares, move to a third world country.

You simply have no concept of love of one's country, do you?




:roll:

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Why do Libs think it's a zero sum game?

If you want to live somewhere with fewer billionares, move to a third world country.

You simply have no concept of love of one's country, do you?

:roll:

I have no concept of class envy. I don't feel diminished by the success of others.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Misleading and false Title.

Should be corrected to Good News for Neocons - More Biilionaire Neocons than ever at expense of rest of what was once a great Nation.

Buahahahaha!!!!!!!

The king of misleading and false titles tries to tell someone else their title is misleading and false? 😛

Thanks, I needed a good laugh after the day I've had.😀

CsG

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Why do Libs think it's a zero sum game?

If you want to live somewhere with fewer billionares, move to a third world country.

This is like a "Hello McFly" anyone home kind of thing.

Other than an Island of a handful of select Eltist Billionaires, this is becoming a THIRD WORLD COUNTRY.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Micheal Dell - 47,800 Employees
Bill Gates - 58,000 Employees
Oracle(Lawrence Ellinson) 41,600 Employees
Walmart - 1.5Million employees
Google - 2000 employees
Amazon.com - 8000 employees

I agree, it is good for america that we have more billionaires than ever. Good for John Kerry also that his Wife made the list. But it looks like Bush and Cheneys name are absent from it.

Their success? Like being born into a rich family? Or the other kind of success?

Yeah because we know Micheal Dell and Bill Gates were just born into wealth like this.

btw from the article which pretty much destroys your argument.

Only 50 names remain of the original 400 from the list's debut in 1982. While some died or divvied up their assets, more than half were simply surpassed.


I guess the 350 new members were just born into money that was created out of thin air?

Dell is the only one on that list that came from basically nothing or had zero help ($1000). But keep the faith brudda, they might have a job for someone with such a good attitude.:thumbsup:

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Why do Libs think it's a zero sum game?

If you want to live somewhere with fewer billionares, move to a third world country.

This is like a "Hello McFly" anyone home kind of thing.

Other than an Island of a handful of select Eltist Billionaires, this is becoming a THIRD WORLD COUNTRY

"If the economy continues its upward trend, it's likely the 400 will grow even wealthier, Newcomb said, adding, ``It won't be too long before our entire list consists of billionaires.''

Hey, you can always hope for a downturn in the economy. :disgust:

313 billionare out of a population of almopst 300,000,0000 people is a pretty small percentage.

So, what if the number of billionares went down by 51 rather than up? Would it have had a profound impact on your life? Perhaps you are just jealous of other people succeeding. Have you ever analyzed why you are so envious of others?

 

[Genesys]

Originally posted by: Zebo
I fail to see how this is good news for America. Weatlh is being concentrated in just a few hands and the power and control that goes with wealth is too. More so when millions are sliding into poverty. And a disapearing middle class

if we would get rid of entitlements and handouts and STOP crushing any sort of ambition or desire to ACHIEVE ON ONES OWN, millions wouldnt be sliding into poverty.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: Zebo
I fail to see how this is good news for America. Weatlh is being concentrated in just a few hands and the power and control that goes with wealth is too. More so when millions are sliding into poverty. And a disapearing middle class

if we would get rid of entitlements and handouts and STOP crushing any sort of ambition or desire to ACHIEVE ON ONES OWN, millions wouldnt be sliding into poverty.

Do you work? Why? How is it, millions, 93 million I beleive, wake up every day a go to work when they could just draw "entilement"?

 

[Genesys]

Originally posted by: Thump553
More billionaires and more people in poverty. The middle class is getting squeezed and taken for a bunch of chumps by the Bush policies.

either that or we need to readjust what exactly the middle class is. the middle class is richer these days, so the old stigma doesnt apply these days.

and zebo, the cost of living has increased dramaticly since your fathers day. its something that has happened all throughout history, so what we're experiencing from our parents [or in my case, grand parents] case is nothing new to economics. society just has to adjust a little, and by the government coming in and babying us does little to help in that adjustment.

 

[Genesys]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: Zebo
I fail to see how this is good news for America. Weatlh is being concentrated in just a few hands and the power and control that goes with wealth is too. More so when millions are sliding into poverty. And a disapearing middle class

if we would get rid of entitlements and handouts and STOP crushing any sort of ambition or desire to ACHIEVE ON ONES OWN, millions wouldnt be sliding into poverty.

Do you work? Why? How is it, millions, 93 million I beleive, wake up every day a go to work when they could just draw "entilement"?

93 million go to work and dont draw on welfare because they dont qualify, however, how many millions more [and some of them FOB] do draw on welfare because theyre fat lazy complacent turds?

how many millions went and tried to collect unemployment when they lost their tech jobs, and then complained, whined, moaned, and bitched because it was 'robbed' from them, all because the job they were seeking was all the sudden unavailable. go learn a new trade and get another job, STOP looking for unavailable jobs! suck it up and work at home depot untill you can get hired somewhere else, but for gods sake, dont sit around and complain about the lack of jobs!

how many more millions are seeking an impossible entitlement in the form of socialized healthcare?

how many millions arent going to be able to recieve social security, something that every citizen is [unfortuantely] entitled to? and whats more, how many immigrant citizens are now going to be alble to draw on SS 6 months after getting here?

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Genesys
and by the government coming in and babying us does little to help in that adjustment.

Governemnt babies corps all the time...things called patents...pooling resources called corporations... allowing monopolies..Exhorbantent licencing fees to shut out comp...More so than ever now by encouraging wage competition with third world cesspools though "free-trade" agreements thus higher profits for these said corps. While average americans are in a race to the bottom. Don't hear you complaining about that babying? Maybe you hope to suck on a big corporate tit one day and tell us all how great free trade is while mass exodus of capital continues to leave USA?

Nothing wrong if they do something to help the people who vote for them once in a awile, they just have to want it that's all and vote accordingly instead of bitching about it.

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Genesys
and by the government coming in and babying us does little to help in that adjustment.

Governemnt babies corps all the time...things called patents...pooling resources called corporations... allowing monopolies..Exhorbantent licencing fees to shut out comp...More so than ever now by encouraging wage competition with third world cesspools though "free-trade" agreements thus higher profits for these said corps. While average americans are in a race to the bottom. Don't hear you complaining about that babying? Maybe you hope to suck on a big corporate tit one day and tell us all how great free trade is while mass exodus of capital continues to leave USA?

Nothing wrong if they do something to help the people who vote for them once in a awile, they just have to want it that's all and vote accordingly instead of bitching about it.

HuH? Capital is leaving the U.S. partly because of all the Marxist tax policies you want enacted in the first place. The U.S. is not the ONLY place to do business in the world, there are a variety of low tax burden, high standard of living countries out there, and the number of them is growing. Furthermore, just here at home in the U.S. over a million people have left high tax burden states, especially California, which has a declining population now.

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[Cipherous]

Nice, more billionaires...atleast we see where Bush's tax cuts are going.

I sure do love voodoo economics.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Genesys
and by the government coming in and babying us does little to help in that adjustment.

Governemnt babies corps all the time...things called patents...pooling resources called corporations... allowing monopolies..Exhorbantent licencing fees to shut out comp...More so than ever now by encouraging wage competition with third world cesspools though "free-trade" agreements thus higher profits for these said corps. While average americans are in a race to the bottom. Don't hear you complaining about that babying? Maybe you hope to suck on a big corporate tit one day and tell us all how great free trade is while mass exodus of capital continues to leave USA?

Nothing wrong if they do something to help the people who vote for them once in a awile, they just have to want it that's all and vote accordingly instead of bitching about it.

HuH? Capital is leaving the U.S. partly because of all the Marxist tax policies you want enacted in the first place. The U.S. is not the ONLY place to do business in the world, there are a variety of low tax burden, high standard of living countries out there, and the number of them is growing. Furthermore, just here at home in the U.S. over a million people have left high tax burden states, especially California, which has a declining population now.

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I want lower taxes. Anyway, how can capital be leaving for something I supposedly want to happen. This implies it has'nt happend yet. Sorry you're just wrong anyway. If I can pay someone $100 mo I'm employing there, period. Plus, I get labor organization busters over there for a small payment on the QT. My tax rate will actually go up because I have relised more profit in this venture by using slave red labor cause I live here under a progressive rate. Cost of labor, by far the most expensive production cost in America, makes capital and whatever americans have left in the bank leave, nothing else. Again, race to the bottom for thirty years now which will only get worse unless we do one of two things.

Trade with countries who have the same labor standards and wages we've grown accustomed to. Or accept labor standards and working conditions of these third world cesspools.

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Genesys
and by the government coming in and babying us does little to help in that adjustment.

Governemnt babies corps all the time...things called patents...pooling resources called corporations... allowing monopolies..Exhorbantent licencing fees to shut out comp...More so than ever now by encouraging wage competition with third world cesspools though "free-trade" agreements thus higher profits for these said corps. While average americans are in a race to the bottom. Don't hear you complaining about that babying? Maybe you hope to suck on a big corporate tit one day and tell us all how great free trade is while mass exodus of capital continues to leave USA?

Nothing wrong if they do something to help the people who vote for them once in a awile, they just have to want it that's all and vote accordingly instead of bitching about it.

HuH? Capital is leaving the U.S. partly because of all the Marxist tax policies you want enacted in the first place. The U.S. is not the ONLY place to do business in the world, there are a variety of low tax burden, high standard of living countries out there, and the number of them is growing. Furthermore, just here at home in the U.S. over a million people have left high tax burden states, especially California, which has a declining population now.

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I want lower taxes. Anyway, how can capital be leaving for something I supposedly want to happen. This implies it has'nt happend yet. Sorry you're just wrong anyway. If I can pay someone $100 mo I'm employing there, period. Plus, I get labor organization busters over there for a small payment on the QT. My tax rate will actually go up because I have relised more profit in this venture by using slave red labor cause I live here under a progressive rate. Cost of labor, by far the most expensive production cost in America, makes capital and whatever americans have left in the bank leave, nothing else. Again, race to the bottom for thirty years now which will only get worse unless we do one of two things.

Trade with countries who have the same labor standards and wages we've grown accustomed to. Or accept labor standards and working conditions of these third world cesspools.

Ok, just change that to WANTED enacted, because they are already enacted. Of course, you would love to see them skyrocket through the roof, turning America into a wasteland.

I love the third world countries. It is high time we put these people without any education in the U.S. out to pasture. When I go to the grocery store, I'm having to pay for some guy to stock the shelves and bag groceries, two things I would LOVE to see a machine replace. You hit the nail on the head, labor costs the most, that's why we need to eliminate it to reduce prices.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Genesys
and by the government coming in and babying us does little to help in that adjustment.

Governemnt babies corps all the time...things called patents...pooling resources called corporations... allowing monopolies..Exhorbantent licencing fees to shut out comp...More so than ever now by encouraging wage competition with third world cesspools though "free-trade" agreements thus higher profits for these said corps. While average americans are in a race to the bottom. Don't hear you complaining about that babying? Maybe you hope to suck on a big corporate tit one day and tell us all how great free trade is while mass exodus of capital continues to leave USA?

Nothing wrong if they do something to help the people who vote for them once in a awile, they just have to want it that's all and vote accordingly instead of bitching about it.

HuH? Capital is leaving the U.S. partly because of all the Marxist tax policies you want enacted in the first place. The U.S. is not the ONLY place to do business in the world, there are a variety of low tax burden, high standard of living countries out there, and the number of them is growing. Furthermore, just here at home in the U.S. over a million people have left high tax burden states, especially California, which has a declining population now.

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I want lower taxes. Anyway, how can capital be leaving for something I supposedly want to happen. This implies it has'nt happend yet. Sorry you're just wrong anyway. If I can pay someone $100 mo I'm employing there, period. Plus, I get labor organization busters over there for a small payment on the QT. My tax rate will actually go up because I have relised more profit in this venture by using slave red labor cause I live here under a progressive rate. Cost of labor, by far the most expensive production cost in America, makes capital and whatever americans have left in the bank leave, nothing else. Again, race to the bottom for thirty years now which will only get worse unless we do one of two things.

Trade with countries who have the same labor standards and wages we've grown accustomed to. Or accept labor standards and working conditions of these third world cesspools.

Ok, just change that to WANTED enacted, because they are already enacted. Of course, you would love to see them skyrocket through the roof, turning America into a wasteland.

I love the third world countries. It is high time we put these people without any education in the U.S. out to pasture. When I go to the grocery store, I'm having to pay for some guy to stock the shelves and bag groceries, two things I would LOVE to see a machine replace. You hit the nail on the head, labor costs the most, that's why we need to eliminate it to reduce prices.

I've always been in favor of a flat tax rate. You never heard me advocate anything else because I would'nt.

And taxes at all only because we need to defend people at the bottom, this country, and help those just starting out in life.

After all you do realise 90% of your UCSD education is paid for by taxpayers right? I don't see you going to SC or Stanford so I must assume you agree with some wealth redistrobution in some strange form. Or just unpricipled.

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Genesys
and by the government coming in and babying us does little to help in that adjustment.

Governemnt babies corps all the time...things called patents...pooling resources called corporations... allowing monopolies..Exhorbantent licencing fees to shut out comp...More so than ever now by encouraging wage competition with third world cesspools though "free-trade" agreements thus higher profits for these said corps. While average americans are in a race to the bottom. Don't hear you complaining about that babying? Maybe you hope to suck on a big corporate tit one day and tell us all how great free trade is while mass exodus of capital continues to leave USA?

Nothing wrong if they do something to help the people who vote for them once in a awile, they just have to want it that's all and vote accordingly instead of bitching about it.

HuH? Capital is leaving the U.S. partly because of all the Marxist tax policies you want enacted in the first place. The U.S. is not the ONLY place to do business in the world, there are a variety of low tax burden, high standard of living countries out there, and the number of them is growing. Furthermore, just here at home in the U.S. over a million people have left high tax burden states, especially California, which has a declining population now.

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I want lower taxes. Anyway, how can capital be leaving for something I supposedly want to happen. This implies it has'nt happend yet. Sorry you're just wrong anyway. If I can pay someone $100 mo I'm employing there, period. Plus, I get labor organization busters over there for a small payment on the QT. My tax rate will actually go up because I have relised more profit in this venture by using slave red labor cause I live here under a progressive rate. Cost of labor, by far the most expensive production cost in America, makes capital and whatever americans have left in the bank leave, nothing else. Again, race to the bottom for thirty years now which will only get worse unless we do one of two things.

Trade with countries who have the same labor standards and wages we've grown accustomed to. Or accept labor standards and working conditions of these third world cesspools.

Ok, just change that to WANTED enacted, because they are already enacted. Of course, you would love to see them skyrocket through the roof, turning America into a wasteland.

I love the third world countries. It is high time we put these people without any education in the U.S. out to pasture. When I go to the grocery store, I'm having to pay for some guy to stock the shelves and bag groceries, two things I would LOVE to see a machine replace. You hit the nail on the head, labor costs the most, that's why we need to eliminate it to reduce prices.

I've always been in favor of a flat tax rate. You never heard me advocate anything else because I would'nt.

And taxes at all only because we need to defend people at the bottom, this country, and help those just starting out in life.

After all you do realise 90% of your UCSD education is paid for by taxpayers right? I don't see you going to SC or Stanford so I must assume you agree with some wealth redistrobution in some strange form. Or just unpricipled.

Yeah, taxpayers who happen to be my parents who would easily be able to afford to send me to a more expensive college if they didn't have to pay all the taxes that they have. Taxation doesn't defend anyone, except the government. The idea that the government has been or ever will be an entity of "altruism" defending "people on the bottom" is the myth to end all myths.

Oh yeah, and it makes sense that someone like you would be in favor of a flat tax. Text

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Cipherous
Nice, more billionaires...atleast we see where Bush's tax cuts are going.

I sure do love voodoo economics.

Correction - During the Reagan Era it was called Voodoo Economics, now it is Neoconomics.