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ivwshane

Lifer
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I can't learn anything else here. I get it but it becomes wearing. I'm becoming impatient with the state of this mess we have and it's like "are we there yet"?

YMMV, I'm in a pissy mood :D

You should be pissed because it appears the Democrats are going to fuck up their chances in 2018 and beyond. For Christ's sake! They are considering backing Jerry Springer!

Imo, it's pretty obvious the Hillary was right about the DNC and they complete ineptitude to get their party into power.


On a side note; I'm getting tired of hearing from Hillary as well but that's only because of the fact that if we are hearing from Hillary it means there isn't anyone in the Democratic party who is worth listening to. The dems have a leadership problem as well as a bench problem. They've got nobody.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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I already said she had legit complaints. The thing that irritated me was her complaining about the DNC who backed her, not anyone else. You are going to have a hard sell to say otherwise. But whatever, it's not an earth shattering thing.

Her complaint was about the DNC's lack of any useful data or infrastructure to help Democrats run a successful campaign and she is 100% right. We are witnessing now just how lacking they are.
 

Jhhnn

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To anger liberals.

Hillary hate is an irrational & overwhelming state of mind. They can't help themselves.

They hate her even more when she says stuff like this-

This year hasn't been what I envisioned, but I know what I'm still fighting for: a kinder, big-hearted, inclusive America. Onward!

No matter how hard they end up screwing themselves along with the rest of us they'll figure that the liberal tears make it all worthwhile. Cuz Libs are the haters, not them, no matter what sort of hateful shit they spew forth.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Her complaint was about the DNC's lack of any useful data or infrastructure to help Democrats run a successful campaign and she is 100% right. We are witnessing now just how lacking they are.


Somebody needs to get things in order. Trump just keeps getting worse, he's heading to the bottom in popularity. By all rights he should be pushing up daisies politically but who can challenge? God forbid Cuomo who if he runs you run too, away. Fantastically corrupt individual. But in DC? No one stands out in my mind.
 

Mandres

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The dems need to just run Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson and be done with it. Competence and experience don't matter anymore, we're in full on Idiocracy mode.
 
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Hillary hate is an irrational & overwhelming state of mind. They can't help themselves.

They hate her even more when she says stuff like this-



No matter how hard they end up screwing themselves along with the rest of us they'll figure that the liberal tears make it all worthwhile. Cuz Libs are the haters, not them, no matter what sort of hateful shit they spew forth.

Hillary Shmillary, they're reactionaries, they hate the entire modern world/civil society.
 

Jhhnn

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Hillary Shmillary, they're reactionaries, they hate the entire modern world/civil society.

And it's been focused on Hillary off & on for a very long while. They're having trouble getting beyond all the irrational raving of the campaign. They still need to hate somebody to keep their minds right & their conditioning still holds about Hillary.
 

Blue_Max

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meh. I'm not worried. :D

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woolfe9998

Lifer
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I already said she had legit complaints. The thing that irritated me was her complaining about the DNC who backed her, not anyone else. You are going to have a hard sell to say otherwise. But whatever, it's not an earth shattering thing.

Yeah, some people were shocked about her comments regarding the DNC. However, on balance I'm glad she made them. You may see that as disloyal because they supported her, but if they don't get their act together, particularly over cyber-security, we could well see a repeat of this in 2020. I do blame Clinton for several aspects of this, and I don't think she's taking enough responsibility, but the DNC probably needs this public ridicule right now.
 
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kage69

Lifer
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To hell with Dwayne Johnson, give me a DeGrasse Tyson / Nye 2020 ticket!

While I'm wishing, I'd like a side of Elizabeth Warren as Attorney General please...
 

Blue_Max

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To hell with Dwayne Johnson, give me a DeGrasse Tyson / Nye 2020 ticket!

While I'm wishing, I'd like a side of Elizabeth Warren as Attorney General please...

Oh, absolutely. What full-bore progressive wouldn't vote for:
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Jhhnn

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Yeah, some people were shocked about her comments regarding the DNC. However, on balance I'm glad she made them. You may see that as disloyal because they supported her, but if they don't get their act together, particularly over cyber-security, we could well see a repeat of this in 2020. I do blame Clinton for several aspects of this, and I don't think she's taking enough responsibility, but the DNC probably needs this public ridicule right now.

Yeh, let's substitute recriminations for action. Or maybe do as Hillary suggests- set ourselves to winning at the state, local & congressional level.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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Yeh, let's substitute recriminations for action. Or maybe do as Hillary suggests- set ourselves to winning at the state, local & congressional level.

I don't want to substitute recriminations for actions, but sometimes recriminations may spark actions. And of course, we should do exactly what she suggests as far as positioning ourselves for winning at all levels.

I just don't want there to be any complacency on this issue of cyber-security. The Russians are still at it. They hacked Macron's campaign in France just weeks ago. They're going to try it again in the US.
 

disappoint

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Yeah, but this is a little like General Lee starting an anti-slavery movement. Hillary is a corporate shill and she and her entire wing of the Democrat party can quit appropriating real peoples' struggles and FoaD. She's going to end up in Hell right next to all the GOP profiteers, because as a person she's not that different.

I nominate you for The official Hillary Clinton denouncer of the Amused FOAD club.
 
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disappoint

Lifer
Dec 7, 2009
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I can't learn anything else here. I get it but it becomes wearing. I'm becoming impatient with the state of this mess we have and it's like "are we there yet"?

YMMV, I'm in a pissy mood :D

I know what will make you feel better. Let's start a 'Star Wars fans against Hillary' campaign. Then again maybe I don't.
 

Jhhnn

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I don't want to substitute recriminations for actions, but sometimes recriminations may spark actions. And of course, we should do exactly what she suggests as far as positioning ourselves for winning at all levels.

I just don't want there to be any complacency on this issue of cyber-security. The Russians are still at it. They hacked Macron's campaign in France just weeks ago. They're going to try it again in the US.

As we've seen, cyber insecurity has served Repubs quite nicely. It also seems unlikely that their Russian enablers will turn against them, either. Quite the contrary. I'm sure they'll pitch in when possible because they want America to have divisive & inept govt. Relatively speaking, it enhances their power.

Well indoctrinated as they are, the Repub base doesn't even blink when they find themselves on the same side as the Russians, never even consider the implications. They're in thrall to the majestic con artistry of Trump. Decades of poisonous right wing agitprop set them up for it, so here we are.
 

Roflmouth

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Hillary hate is an irrational & overwhelming state of mind. They can't help themselves.

They hate her even more when she says stuff like this-



No matter how hard they end up screwing themselves along with the rest of us they'll figure that the liberal tears make it all worthwhile. Cuz Libs are the haters, not them, no matter what sort of hateful shit they spew forth.

Like calling half of Trump's supporters deplorable, right? But it's not like that horribly backfired on her :)