good comp(2.8,6800gt,1.5ram)insanely bad results?

[giaft]

hey everybody, i purchased a 6800 gt and 1 gig ram around beginning of september. Before buying and installing the new stuff, i had 2.8c processor default settings and stock fan, 512 pc 433 ddr ram Geil, ati 9600 pro, 350 wat psu generic. i got like 2,999 on 3dmark03 with that setup. Then i installed 1 gig of corsair value ram pc 400 ddr, eVga 6800 GT, 480 watt thermaltake psu, same proccessor as before p4 2.8c with same motherboard asus p4p800. I got around 5,000 to 6,000 on 3dmark03. my friend who had less ram and slower proccessor, like 512 ram or 1 gig ram and amd 2400 got about 9 or 10 thousand on 3dmark03. i used cpu z and here is what it says,

CPU settings
Voltage for cpu is around 1.6
cpu speed is 2806.4 MHz
multiplier is x 14.0
FSB is 200.MHz
Speed 801.9 MHz
l2 cache is 512 KBytes

Memory settings

Size 1536 MBytes
Channels# Dual

then for Modules information it says

Frequency 200.5Mhz
FSBRAM 1:1
CAS# LATENECY 2.5 clocks
RAS# TO CAS# DELAY 3 clocks
RAS# Precharge 3 clocks
Cycle Time (Tras) 8 clocks
it says that for each stick.

i am using all 4 slots on my asus p4p800 mobo, 2 slots r using geil pc 3500 ddr ram this one comes at 433 mhz 256 each stick and the other two slots are using Corsair Value Select pc 3000 ddr ram this one comes at 400 mhz. i dont know if the diff rams matter. because soemone told me if i use two diff speeds, the comp will just use slowest speed, in this case 400 mhz, right? the processor is not overclocked and i have 4 fans on my comp. 1 on top 1 in the side see thru clear window and 2 in the back. The 6800 GT used to run like 67 Celsius, right now its running 58 Celcsiues, im not running games right now just on internet typing this. also, its pretty cold in my room right now. doom 3 runs fine sometimes like singleplayer, but in multiplayer it lags, low fps etc. in cs i also do not get 100 fps constant, the fps drops to 60's someitmes and even to 30's 40's some times. IF anyone can help, i would appreciate. If you need more information, ask and ill post asap. Thanks

 

[giaft]

also the agp aperture is like 64 mb

 

[giaft]

antialiasing and all taht is off. i have 8 x agp running and refresh rate is 100

 

[giaft]

i used driver claener to delete ati drivers etc i think i have removed them completely, however i did not go into safe mode and use driver claner, becasue i do not know how to goto safe mode i have windows xp. Can i check to see if i completely removed ati drivers? i think i did, but i just want to be sure.

 

[giaft]

im using nvidia 61.77 drivers.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Just edit your first post dont keep posting.

#1. What driver revision are you using.

#2. Set AGP Aperture to higher than 64. 128mb normal... games such as DIII 256 would be better.

#3. Fastwrites status?

-Kevin

 

[giaft]

where is fastwrites? where can i find the settings?

 

[stnicralisk]

It probably isnt running correctly in dual channel. To run in dual channel I think all of the sticks have to use the same chips with the same number on each side. Are you using 3 sticks or 4? If you are using 4 two of each type I am not sure how picky your board is.

In any case 3dmark03 is all most entirely GPU. How does your GPU handle other games?

 

[giaft]

i dont really play any others games cuz im poor. i only have cs doom 3 and quake 3. quake 3 runs fine i also ave cs source and that doesnt run smooth, i get like 30-50 fps, choppy.

 

[stnicralisk]

Originally posted by: giaft
i dont really play any others games cuz im poor. i only have cs doom 3 and quake 3. quake 3 runs fine i also ave cs source and that doesnt run smooth, i get like 30-50 fps, choppy.

runs choppy at what settings? You shouldnt be having problems with CS Source!

 

[giaft]

i know, i am doing lowest settings and getting chopy and low fps. help1!!

 

[OinkBoink]

a poor guy has a p4p800 and a 6800 gt????:laugh:

 

[OMG1Penguin]

30-50 isn't choppy either

 

[daveybrat]

First, go the www.guru3d.com and go to the download section. Go to Nvidia Driver section and download the newest 66.81 drivers (they are not beta, they are official drivers never released).

After i installed them i noticed much smoother gameplay in Doom3 over the 61.77 drivers.

also try taking out some of the ram. keep only the 2 512mb sticks in dual channel mode.

good luck!

 

[giaft]

any help?

 

[drpootums]

try getting rid of the old geil ram, there may be some sort of a conflict there

 

[imported_Harbinger]

Originally posted by: nikhilesh
a poor guy has a p4p800 and a 6800 gt????:laugh:

LoL. Like the problem of being poor is to get p4p800 and not 1.5 gig of memory

 

[jiffylube1024]

DId you make sure to turn AA and AF off in the BIOS? Because your problem sounds like either:

a.) the ATI drivers weren't properly/fully uninstalled and are causing a conflict, or:

b.) you have AA/AF on in the BIOS, which would drop your 3dmark score to about what you quoted, 5-6K.

Also, set your AGP aperture size to 256MB in the BIOS to match your card's RAM. If you have a gig or more RAM, it's best to set AGP aperture to 256MB.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
DId you make sure to turn AA and AF off in the BIOS? Because your problem sounds like either:

a.) the ATI drivers weren't properly/fully uninstalled and are causing a conflict, or:

b.) you have AA/AF on in the BIOS, which would drop your 3dmark score to about what you quoted, 5-6K.

Also, set your AGP aperture size to 256MB in the BIOS to match your card's RAM. If you have a gig or more RAM, it's best to set AGP aperture to 256MB.

AA and AF in the BIOS?

Download the latest drivers from Nvidia's website to your desktop. 61.77's.

1. shut down your pc
2. disconnect your network cable
3. Start your computer and tap the F8 key every 1/2 second until you see the safe mode boot up option.
4. Choose Safe Mode (regular) should be the first option.
5. Run driver cleaner and then run CAB Cleaner from the tools menu in the driver cleaner program. This will take an extensive amount of time so be patient. Clean Both the driver cab and the SP1 or SP2 cab.
6. Leave your network cable disconnected and restart your PC normally.
7. When XP starts, the "new hardware found wizard" will start. Hit CANCEL
8. Install the 61.77's
9. Shutdown your PC
10. reconnect your network cable
11 Start PC
12. Set proper resolutions and video settings to your liking.
13. Game away.
14. Done.

 

[Keysplayr]

Still there?

 

[giaft]

yes i am

 

[johndwango]

If it makes you feel any better, Im having the exact same problem. I have an athlon 64 w/ BFG 6800GT and performance in CS:Source is not upto par. Even if I run it at 640x480 resolution Im not able to get a constant fps. Im begining to think its the card, so I have ordered a x800 XT. Lets see if that is able to fix the problem.

 

[nitromullet]

First off, to answer your RAM question. Your CPU runs at a FSB of 800MHz default (4 x 200), so if you're not overclocking your CPU, you should be running at DDR400 (2 x 200). You were never running the Geil at DDR433, but at DDR400 (which is fine). Your friend is right though, if you are using two different speeds of RAM, it will always run at the slower speed. This is generally true with anything computer related, your computer will always be hindered by the weakest link. However, in this case it is irrelevant because your higher speed component is rated faster then the default spec.

That being said... You may be having an issue with your RAM conflicting with each other, since you are running two different types of RAM in dual channel. Dual channel is a bit more touchy than single channel. Try removing either the Geil or the Corsair, and see what happens.

The rest of the advice already given is good as well...

driver cleaner, install new nVidia drivers (66.81), check nV control panel to make sure AA/AF are not enabled, etc...

Also, you never mentioned what version of 3DMark03 you were running... We are assunming the free version, which doesn't allow you to tweak the resolution or AA/AF settings from the app, but if for some reason you are using the paid version, you might have your resolution set higher than is default. This would affect your score.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
DId you make sure to turn AA and AF off in the BIOS? Because your problem sounds like either:

a.) the ATI drivers weren't properly/fully uninstalled and are causing a conflict, or:

b.) you have AA/AF on in the BIOS, which would drop your 3dmark score to about what you quoted, 5-6K.

Also, set your AGP aperture size to 256MB in the BIOS to match your card's RAM. If you have a gig or more RAM, it's best to set AGP aperture to 256MB.

AA and AF in the BIOS?

I'm on crack - I meant in the drivers. LOL!

giaft - if your system is still slow and it won't set you back much time, you should reformat your PC and put a fresh copy of windows. You've got a great upgrade that will last you for awhile, but something is definately screwed up in the drivers. A clean reformat with the newest WHQL drivers from Nvidia's site would be the best way to clear that all up.

Make sure to set that AGP aperture to 256MB too!

Oh yeah - if the actual voltage is 1.6V, then drop it down to stock - 1.525V. That chip does NOT need nearly that much voltage to run at stock.

On my Abit IC7 motherboard (a notorious undervolter), if I leave the CPU at 1.525V in the BIOS, the CPU runs at 1.47V actual, and it's totally stable. I run my chip at 1.525V actual and I can overclock to 3.3 Ghz at this voltage; more voltage doesn't help, either.

 

[James3shin]

its a long shot, but his PSU is a generic 350W, maybe its not getting enough juice to the 68000gt? But if that were the case, the GT would have exited the games right? well, another theory is that his comp could be flooded with spyware, or his hdd could be fragmented...so i'd recommend running a spyware program, then defragging your hard drive, and if that doesn't help, try removing the rams that do not match, dual channel requires chips of the same speed, and size, brand shouldn't matter, but it seems because one brand is faster then the other, it just downclocked and is running at 2x200 but not in dual channel, thats my guess.