Good build?

[bristow84]

Case is a Cooler Master CM960 II Advanced

Processor is the AMD Phenom II X4 965 black edition

4GB RAM

Hitachi 1TB hard drive. (I believe Hitachi. Either Hitachi or Seagate)

Radeon HD 6670HD 1GB. I think I might go with the 6850HD though.


Antec 620 Watt PSU

That is all that I remember. I lost the sheet that I had most of it written down on. The store I was talking to has it saved there.


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KeithTalent

 

[Mike Gayner]

Wrong forum.

 

[veri745]

General Hardware is a better place to pose this question.

What games do you want to play and at what resolution? The Radeon 6850 is a much more capable GPU than the 6670.

 

[DominionSeraph]

Whoever recommended the 6670 to you should be shot. For $10 more the 5770 rapes it. (~40+% faster)
The 6850 at $150 after rebate and the 1GB GTX 460 at $140 after rebate are also good buys.

For hard drive, get the 1TB Spinpoint F3. I am not familiar with either of the 1TB Hitachi drives on Newegg, so I don't know if they're 500GB platters or an older design. The Spinpoint F3 I know has them.
Seagate has reliability issues.

As far as processor, if you're not interested in Battleforge that comes with the 965, get the 955 for $20 cheaper. It's the same thing except it comes with a lower default multiplier. The multiplier is unlocked, so all you have to do is set it to the 965's multiplier and you have yourself a 965.

That PSU looks to be a really good deal.
Case is a solid choice.

 

[bristow84]

What kind of games would I be able to play with the 6670 right now? Like graphics wise?

And which games could I play with the 6850?

 

[JumBie]

Budget?

 

[bristow84]

800-900. That right there along with a couple other things is running me about 820. However the 6670 is I believe $100 or a bit more. So I really don't want to go overbudget. I just need to know what I can play on the 6670 compared to the 6850 and I'll make my choice from there

 

[JumBie]

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Item #: N82E16827135204
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$20.99


COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811119196
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$89.99


Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136533
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$89.99


HIS H685F1GD Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
Item #: N82E16814161348
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$159.99


HIS Gift - DIRT3 Game Redemption Coupon
Item #: N82E16800997061
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$0.00


CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible ...
Item #: N82E16817139005
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$89.99


Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 997002
Item #: N82E16820226217
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$83.99


MSI P67A-G43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813130583
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$124.99


Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
Item #: N82E16819115072
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
$224.99

Subtotal: $884.92

Get this or a variation of this, this is top notch performance that will last a long time, and its based on a budget.

 

[JumBie]

800-900. That right there along with a couple other things is running me about 820. However the 6670 is I believe $100 or a bit more. So I really don't want to go overbudget. I just need to know what I can play on the 6670 compared to the 6850 and I'll make my choice from there

6670 isnt really meant for gaming at all, its meant for media pcs, or home pcs. The 6850 will allow you to play anything you want, at quite decent settings, where as the 6670 might not even allow you to play much at all.

 

[bristow84]

I'm getting my PC from a custom place. I don't know if you know them. Memory Express. And I'm not sure if they have all this stuff. Also the price of mine includes an internal WiFi adapter How's the case you recommended?

 

[AstroManLuca]

Yeah, skip the 6670. Not cheap enough to be worth the reduced performance compared with the 5770. Really right now the 6850 is the best midrange graphics card for the money, but if you can't afford it, the 5770 is the next best step down.

EDIT: This is pre-built? I'd really recommend building yourself, it's not that hard and you save a lot of money. But if you must buy it pre-built, get the cheapest graphics card they offer and upgrade that component yourself.

 

[Ultralight]

What JumBie says about the 6850. I built my brother-in-law a gaming rig using the HIS 6850 and he is quite happy with it. It plays all his games at good settings.

 

[bristow84]

It's not pre- built. Well I'm not sure what your meaning by pre built. But I pick the components and they build the computer. It's not something like a store prebuilt.

 

[DominionSeraph]

It's not pre- built. Well I'm not sure what your meaning by pre built. But I pick the components and they build the computer. It's not something like a store prebuilt.

It's a pre-built, and they're going to be charging you like $200 over the cost of parts to assemble it.

$678 shipped, plus $80 in MIR. And that ain't no 6670.

Here's the review on the 6670:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4278/amds-radeon-hd-6670-radeon-hd-6570/4

6670's are $90. But 5770's are only $100, 768MB GTX 460's are $120, and 1GB are @ $140, so there's really no reason to be going 6670. It's a $600+ machine, so find the $30 extra for at least a 768MB GTX 460. That's a 5% increase in price for a near 100% improvement in performance.

(Edit: mis-wrote 5570. Meant 5770)

Subtotal: $884.92

No OS.

 

[bristow84]

Actually they are one of the cheapest places in Canada to get a custom PC. Only $70 for the building and OS install. Prices are the same as NewEgg. Perhaps cheaper

 

[JumBie]

Oh your from Canada! Why didn't you say so brother, I used Newegg USA prices. I can show you the price of a Canadian system from NCIX, TONS of deals and sales every week. Let me work my magic.

 

[bristow84]

Honestly I'd prefer just to get it from them. The fact that all the warranty would be one place is nice. Plus right now I'm not looking for anything amazing right now. Just enough that I can play games that aren't only 10 years old. Oblivion would run on a 6850 right? Also who would be the cheapest maker of the 6850? I know Asus are probably the best

 

[JumBie]

But serious question are you looking for a system to last you, or are you looking for a system that you will probably end up regretting next year?

 

[JumBie]

Honestly I'd prefer just to get it from them. The fact that all the warranty would be one place is nice. Plus right now I'm not looking for anything amazing right now. Just enough that I can play games that aren't only 10 years old. Oblivion would run on a 6850 right? Also who would be the cheapest maker of the 6850? I know Asus are probably the best

Well any store will give you warranty, you have to understand that the stores warranty is limited and completely different from the manufacturer warranty, which is really the warranty you should be looking at. I know the store your talking about, and had a few friends buy from them, I personally think they have some pretty awkward prices especially if you compare them to other major Canadian computer stores.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Honestly I'd prefer just to get it from them. The fact that all the warranty would be one place is nice. Plus right now I'm not looking for anything amazing right now. Just enough that I can play games that aren't only 10 years old. Oblivion would run on a 6850 right? Also who would be the cheapest maker of the 6850? I know Asus are probably the best

If you want to save money then get a 5770. I went to that company's website and they were selling systems with that card so I know they have it. I have a 4870 which has similar performance and it runs modern games fine, although with a few I have to turn down the settings and I am not so confident I'll be able to run Skyrim or Battlefield 3 very well.

I don't have much of an opinion on the graphics card maker. For nVidia people seem to like eVGA. My ATI card is a Sapphire and has been fine. Haven't heard anything bad about Asus.

 

[bristow84]

How does their card rankings work? Is it backwards? Where the lower u go the better the cards are?

And I'm looking for one to last a while.

 

[coldmeat]

Check out Direct Canada. I buy almost all my computer parts from them. You can build that same pc posted up there ^ for $850, and I didn't look around for cheaper parts, just built the exact same thing posted.

edit: forgot about HST and an OS, well I'm sure you can save a few bucks here and there.

 

[bristow84]

Actually the 820 is with OS. GST will be on later. But just go with the 6850HD?

 

[DominionSeraph]

How does their card rankings work? Is it backwards? Where the lower u go the better the cards are?

No, it's just neither AMD nor Nvidia name things in reference to the prior generation, so you basically have to read benchmarks to know where cards really lie.
It's especially bad with budget cards because there's a BIG jump between cards meant for budget gaming and ones for HTPC in terms of performance, but not in naming.

And I'm looking for one to last a while.

Then you need a 6850/1GB GTX 460.

 

[mfenn]

Case is a Cooler Master CM960 II Advanced

Processor is the AMD Phenom II X4 965 black edition

4GB RAM

Hitachi 1TB hard drive. (I believe Hitachi. Either Hitachi or Seagate)

Radeon HD 6670HD 1GB. I think I might go with the 6850HD though.


Antec 620 Watt PSU

That is all that I remember. I lost the sheet that I had most of it written down on. The store I was talking to has it saved there.


Moved from PC Gaming

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KeithTalent

Sorry, but that isn't a gaming computer. The goal of a gaming computer is to spend the least amount of money possible on ancillary components and though as much as you can at the GPU then CPU. Here's a build from Memory Express with assembly (not the Memory Express's pricing on GPUs is out of this world insane).

You'll notice that I didn't include OS install. That's because, frankly, if you can't do a Windows install, you have no business owning a non-Dell PC.