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GRagland

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I tried all the possibilites for #4 and none worked except -3/2. Maybe thats the only rational zero. But there should be 1 pos. and 2 neg. zeros unless i did the teqnique to find the number of zeros wrong. By the way the method to find the number of pos. and neg. zeros is called Descartes rule of signs.
 

aux

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Originally posted by: GRagland
I tried all the possibilites for #4 and none worked except -3/2. Maybe thats the only rational zero. But there should be 1 pos. and 2 neg. zeros unless i did the teqnique to find the number of zeros wrong. By the way the method to find the number of pos. and neg. zeros is called Descartes rule of signs.

I didn't check which ones are the zeros, but it's possible that there is only one rational zero. The other zeroes may be real but irrational numbers (see the definition above).

 

aux

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Originally posted by: GRagland
Originally posted by: aux
For #4: let x=(r/s) is a (rational number which is a) zero of your equation, r and s integers with gcd(r,s) = 1, then plug r/s in the equation and multiply the resulting equation by s^3; the result should be:
2r^3 + 2(r^2)*s - 14 r*(s^2) - 21s^3 = 0
then 2(r^2)*s - 14 r*(s^2) - 21s^3 is divisible by s, 0 is divisible by everything inclusing s, therefore 2r^3 should be divisble by s but gcd(r,c) = 1 so 2 should be divisible by s, therefore the only possibile values for s are 1, -1, 2 and -2
also, 2r^3 + 2(r^2)*s - 14 r*(s^2) is divisible by r, 0 is divisible by r so 21s^3 sould be divisible by r, and again gcd(r,c) = 1 therefore 21 is divisible by r, thus the only possible values for r are 1, -1, 3, -3, 7, -7, 21, -21
then combining the possible values for r and s, you get the posibilities for x (there are gonna be quite a few of them), plug them in the equation and check which ones are zeroes indeed (there is a way to reduce the number of possible values that you need to check but it's too long to explain)


man, there are a lot of combinations. there is a way to find out the number of pos. and neg. zeros, by looking at the number of changes in sign. you know of this? i followed this (too long to explain) and got 1 positive zero and 2 negative zeros. i know -3/2 is a zero, so that means there is one more neg. zero. I tried the other possible negative zeros and none of them worked. Does that mean -3/2 has a multiplicity of 2????

In order to find the multiplicity of -3/2 you have to divide your polinomial by (x + 3/2) and see if the resulting polinomial has -3/2 as a zero, if so -- the multiplicity is at least 2, if not -- it is one; again -- there may be another negative zero of the polinomial, but irrational; you only have to find the rational ones

 

GRagland

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Anyone knwo how to do #6? as x gets bigger it approaches zero, as it gets smaller it approaches but never reaches a specific number. that specific number is the asymptote. I found the verticle asymptote, which is zero. But i dont know how to find the horizontal.