"gone is the apprentice, in comes the master."

[GrGr]

Interesting take on the situation in Iraq:

"A recent report in the Washington Post backs up the rumours I heard in Baghdad that the Iraqi resistance to occupation is so strong that the authorities are now actively recruiting some of the brutal officers of the security and armed forces that Saddam himself used to suppress the people. If true, the US administration, in the name of fighting the so-called remnants of Saddam's regime, is now busy trying to rebuild the shattered edifice of Saddam's tyrannical state - a tyranny which they had backed and armed with WMD for many years. One of the popular sayings I repeatedly heard in Baghdad, describing the relations between the US and Saddam's regime, is "Rah el sani', ija el ussta" - "gone is the apprentice, in comes the master."

The governing council is not so much hated as ridiculed, and attacked for having its members chosen along sectarian lines. Most of the people I talked to think that it is a powerless body: it has no army, no police, and no national budget, but boasts nine rotating presidents. One of the jokes circulating in Baghdad was that no sooner had you brought down Saddam's picture than you were being asked to pin up nine new ones. "

Patriots and invaders

 

[LunarRay]

Lets see if I have this right.. the folks doing the terrorist attacks on US troops and others are the former supporters of Saddam who are not happy with the changes attempted. So to thwart this we engage the same band of folks to interdict themselves. I see.. it seems consistent with all the rest of this fiasco. I guess we've forsaken the humanitarian aspects and law and order in favor of resetting the status quo of Saddam but, under another person who the 'band of folks' will approve of.. maybe Saddam..
Maybe I missed something or the terrorists are the villagers.. need more info.. I guess.

 

[pphysicsguy]

It seems this whole little conquest has turned into a royal mess. What better way to clean it up than to put the former people back in place.

Also, does anyone seriously believe this "rotating council" idea is going to work, or is anything more than a US-controlled puppet-show?

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: LunarRay
Lets see if I have this right.. the folks doing the terrorist attacks on US troops and others are the former supporters of Saddam who are not happy with the changes attempted. So to thwart this we engage the same band of folks to interdict themselves. I see.. it seems consistent with all the rest of this fiasco. I guess we've forsaken the humanitarian aspects and law and order in favor of resetting the status quo of Saddam but, under another person who the 'band of folks' will approve of.. maybe Saddam..
Maybe I missed something or the terrorists are the villagers.. need more info.. I guess.

Or perhaps it takes a village of terrorists to neutralize the situation.

 

[minibush1]

US kills three more in Sunni triangle

Standing by the grave of his dead brother, Sheikh Abed Asalam Jamil says he is happy and calls for a jihad against the US Army.
'Everyone in Iraq is a mujahid,' says the imam, whose brother, Zamal Jamil al-Juleimi, was killed on Friday night as he returned from a doctor's appointment with his family. 'The people of this country will raise the flag of jihad.'

Zamal was shot dead, along with his wife and her mother, Beijah. Their son, Haider, who was sitting in the back of the pick-up, lies wounded in the hospital in Falujah, 30 miles west of Baghdad, in the heart of the Sunni triangle.

 

[LunarRay]

And the US Army finds a way to shoot the good guy.. amazing..

We'd better get going while the going is good..

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: LunarRay
Lets see if I have this right.. the folks doing the terrorist attacks on US troops and others are the former supporters of Saddam who are not happy with the changes attempted. So to thwart this we engage the same band of folks to interdict themselves. I see.. it seems consistent with all the rest of this fiasco. I guess we've forsaken the humanitarian aspects and law and order in favor of resetting the status quo of Saddam but, under another person who the 'band of folks' will approve of.. maybe Saddam..
Maybe I missed something or the terrorists are the villagers.. need more info.. I guess.

Or perhaps it takes a village of terrorists to neutralize the situation.

I thought you were going to say it takes a village of terrorists to raise a dictator.

 

[minibush1]

Bogged down in Baghdad
fyi

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: LunarRay
Lets see if I have this right.. the folks doing the terrorist attacks on US troops and others are the former supporters of Saddam who are not happy with the changes attempted. So to thwart this we engage the same band of folks to interdict themselves. I see.. it seems consistent with all the rest of this fiasco. I guess we've forsaken the humanitarian aspects and law and order in favor of resetting the status quo of Saddam but, under another person who the 'band of folks' will approve of.. maybe Saddam..
Maybe I missed something or the terrorists are the villagers.. need more info.. I guess.

Or perhaps it takes a village of terrorists to neutralize the situation.

I thought you were going to say it takes a village of terrorists to raise a dictator.

I think he did, Moonbeam.. I think he did and I think it would.. of course we'd have to arm him with tanks and bombs and planes and all those things a good dictator needs to keep order among the rank and file..

 

[GrGr]

Originally posted by: minibush1
Bogged down in Baghdad
fyi

"This is completely unprecedented," said Staff Sgt. Allan Spry, a 17-year veteran with the 173rd Brigade.

"How long can they expect our guys to go without sex and alcohol?"




Ask Mr. President Bush what he thinks about sex and alcohol