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meltdown75

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Patt
I played the first 15 years of my golf life without a driver. My stainless steel, first generation metal-wood served me well for that long. I was able to rip that ah heck though, and only started getting interested in the new drivers when I realized my friends were blowing their drives past me 40, 50 yards sometimes. That being said, I only pull my driver 5-6 times a round. Shorter par 4s I hit the three wood, or often a 3-iron if it is a narrow hole, or I need to really position a shot. I'd love to get a 2-iron, but TaylorMade doesn't make a 2 iron for the set I have (I'm a lefty, and they made it for righties :()

Another thing to try is to just hit to the very center of every green. So long as your putter is working, you'll score well just doing that too. So many variables to think about, sometimes I'm amazed I ever make contact!
I have a 1-iron somewhere on the farm. :evil: :D That thing is damn-near impossible to me to hit. It's like a frickin' hockey stick!! lol
Originally posted by: junkerman123
Consistency is the most important thing. Technical perfection is only second. If you can compensate for your swing faults and consistently hit good shots, then you shouldn't necessarily be tempted to make changes. But if you have a chronic push/pull/slice or some other problem, a change needs to be made. For me personally, I know pretty much exactly what my perfect swing should be like, and I make that perfect swing approximately 40% of the time. The other 60% I immediately know what I did wrong. My goal is to get out to the range and work on making that perfect swing 100% of the time. Once I am able to make that swing consistently I will be limited only by my short game and putting.
That's another thing that was working last night - the putter. I didn't have any three-putts, had a couple nice two putts and got lucky with a couple par saves (bombs). My birdie was a bomb too... I even fist-pumped all by myself... :eek:
 

stag3

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Originally posted by: irwincur
Dump those iron covers. They scream beginner - no normal golfer would be caught dead with them in his/her bag.

Also, clubs DO NOT make the golfer. More importantly, expensive clubs are generally made for lower handicap players and are much more difficult to hit well. However, they are generally easier to control if you have a good swing. There are many mid level clubs that are made for mid to high handicap golfers and make the game much easier for someone that is just breaking 100.



rofl i AM a beginner, but the reason i actually got them was because the clang noise from them hitting eachother while walking was annoying me.

and the mx-17's i got are made for mid to high handicappers, which i definitely am.
i tried the next ones up made for low to mid handicappers and i just was not consistant enough with them. i'm pretty much playing once a week now and at least 1-2x a week @ the driving range now.

to the person asking if new clubs would make a difference - you will need to demo the clubs, if the golf shop you goto will not let you test them out (a lot will not, but some do) then find another shop. but i suggest what was suggested to me, get fitted.

 

Patt

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Originally posted by: stag3
Originally posted by: irwincur
Dump those iron covers. They scream beginner - no normal golfer would be caught dead with them in his/her bag.

Also, clubs DO NOT make the golfer. More importantly, expensive clubs are generally made for lower handicap players and are much more difficult to hit well. However, they are generally easier to control if you have a good swing. There are many mid level clubs that are made for mid to high handicap golfers and make the game much easier for someone that is just breaking 100.



rofl i AM a beginner, but the reason i actually got them was because the clang noise from them hitting eachother while walking was annoying me.

and the mx-17's i got are made for mid to high handicappers, which i definitely am.
i tried the next ones up made for low to mid handicappers and i just was not consistant enough with them. i'm pretty much playing once a week now and at least 1-2x a week @ the driving range now.

to the person asking if new clubs would make a difference - you will need to demo the clubs, if the golf shop you goto will not let you test them out (a lot will not, but some do) then find another shop. but i suggest what was suggested to me, get fitted.

I've hit the MX-17s, and they are pretty sweet for mid-high handicapper clubs. Get comfortable with them, and as you see needs develop (if you keep playing, you will ...), then you can upgrade. I would love for some angle to swoop out of the sky and deposit brand new Mizuno blades on my doorstep. I honestly would have a hard time hitting them the first time, as I wouldn't want to scratch them in the slightest. I'm not usually much for industrial type design, but I drool over the Mizuno blades. :eek:
 

meltdown75

Lifer
Nov 17, 2004
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ah, the gentle claps of irons touching in a golf bag as you walk down a fairway... truly music to my ears.

i have some of those headcovers too... they're in the box with all the other golf junk i have collected... :D
 

stag3

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i know i don't need them for these irons as they are cast, but i was told when i do upgrade to forged irons, i should use them as those "dent" easily ? or did i hear wrong.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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awesome clubs! guess what I'm getting tomorrow?

my new set of irons!!! :D

i am going to be skipping the gym after work tomorrow to go hit the largest possible bucket at the range :).
 

the good ol cleveland steamer

i use the launcher as well...plus a taylormade r7 quad
i get about 20 yards more out of the cleveland, but i'm more consistent with the r7
 

meltdown75

Lifer
Nov 17, 2004
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Originally posted by: purbeast0
awesome clubs! guess what I'm getting tomorrow?

my new set of irons!!! :D

i am going to be skipping the gym after work tomorrow to go hit the largest possible bucket at the range :).

i think you may have posted it -- but what are you getting? :) post some pics of the clubheads when you get 'em.
 

Patt

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Originally posted by: stag3
i know i don't need them for these irons as they are cast, but i was told when i do upgrade to forged irons, i should use them as those "dent" easily ? or did i hear wrong.

It really depends on the type of metal they are forged from. All irons will beloved patriot a little bit over the years, but I want mine to have some character. Unless you're throwing your bag all over the place, any irons should be OK.
 

Patt

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
awesome clubs! guess what I'm getting tomorrow?

my new set of irons!!! :D

i am going to be skipping the gym after work tomorrow to go hit the largest possible bucket at the range :).

Post pics of the irons later ... you ordered some custom made component clubs didn't you?
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
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mb one of you guys can help me.

i had a terrible slice. a golf pro friend of mine helped me out with it. basically, he has taken me wrist almost completely out of my game. every club, ever shot, first, i address the ball, then i lift the club parrallel to the ground and make my body turn to the point where my left arm is parrallel to the ground, no elbow bend. then with the twist of the hips i release the club.

seems to work well. heres the thing tho, after about 4 hours of golf, 1 hour on driving range and 3 hours playing, my body starts to tire and that same swing now instead of going straight will go extremely left, almost as if i've aimed it left by about 30 degrees.

any ideas? i'm in LA, ca at the moment and can't ask my golf pro friend, as soon as i get back to jersey i'll ask him also.

but just curious any ideas?
 

Gibsons

Lifer
Aug 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
mb one of you guys can help me.

i had a terrible slice. a golf pro friend of mine helped me out with it. basically, he has taken me wrist almost completely out of my game. every club, ever shot, first, i address the ball, then i lift the club parrallel to the ground and make my body turn to the point where my left arm is parrallel to the ground, no elbow bend. then with the twist of the hips i release the club.

seems to work well. heres the thing tho, after about 4 hours of golf, 1 hour on driving range and 3 hours playing, my body starts to tire and that same swing now instead of going straight will go extremely left, almost as if i've aimed it left by about 30 degrees.

any ideas? i'm in LA, ca at the moment and can't ask my golf pro friend, as soon as i get back to jersey i'll ask him also.

but just curious any ideas?
You're probably not getting your body all the way through, so the clubhead gets too far ahead. I'm struggling with this now... It seems to happen to people more when they get tired. I've been able to (sort of) cure it by swinging harder. Really force the body through. Try to get the belt buckle pointed at the target at the finish.
 

Patt

Diamond Member
Jan 30, 2000
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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
mb one of you guys can help me.

i had a terrible slice. a golf pro friend of mine helped me out with it. basically, he has taken me wrist almost completely out of my game. every club, ever shot, first, i address the ball, then i lift the club parrallel to the ground and make my body turn to the point where my left arm is parrallel to the ground, no elbow bend. then with the twist of the hips i release the club.

seems to work well. heres the thing tho, after about 4 hours of golf, 1 hour on driving range and 3 hours playing, my body starts to tire and that same swing now instead of going straight will go extremely left, almost as if i've aimed it left by about 30 degrees.

any ideas? i'm in LA, ca at the moment and can't ask my golf pro friend, as soon as i get back to jersey i'll ask him also.

but just curious any ideas?

Sounds like with fatigue, your timing gets way off, and you release your club a bit early, before your body turns completely through. I'm assuming you're right-handed with this comment.
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
mb one of you guys can help me.

i had a terrible slice. a golf pro friend of mine helped me out with it. basically, he has taken me wrist almost completely out of my game. every club, ever shot, first, i address the ball, then i lift the club parrallel to the ground and make my body turn to the point where my left arm is parrallel to the ground, no elbow bend. then with the twist of the hips i release the club.

seems to work well. heres the thing tho, after about 4 hours of golf, 1 hour on driving range and 3 hours playing, my body starts to tire and that same swing now instead of going straight will go extremely left, almost as if i've aimed it left by about 30 degrees.

any ideas? i'm in LA, ca at the moment and can't ask my golf pro friend, as soon as i get back to jersey i'll ask him also.

but just curious any ideas?
You're probably not getting your body all the way through, so the clubhead gets too far ahead. I'm struggling with this now... It seems to happen to people more when they get tired. I've been able to (sort of) cure it by swinging harder. Really force the body through. Try to get the belt buckle pointed at the target at the finish.

that's kind of what i thought.

another thing was, i was told i was moving my left foot too much, so i consciously kept it planted and after about 9 holes the outside of my foot started to really hurt (some muscles tweaked or stretched) so i started to open my foot up a bit more so i wouldn't stretch it so much. basically after 9 holes i really started to lose my swing.

one thing tho, the parrallel thing my friend got me on really helped my swing a lot. for the first time since i started golf (never played more than 3 times in a summer till this year so i guess i could say i kind of started this year. ;) ) i feel like i have something to build on as far as my swing.

having a pro help you develop a swing is a pretty good idea.
 

stag3

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i had a major slice problem when i first started, we're talking tee'ng off into the next fairway EVERYTIME. my instructor forced me to repetitively cross over my forearms and completely follow through with my swing. which completely cured my slice. it was hard at first, but now i don't even think of it. if anything i hook a little when i'm off.
 

Patt

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Jan 30, 2000
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Originally posted by: stag3
i had a major slice problem when i first started, we're talking tee'ng off into the next fairway EVERYTIME. my instructor forced me to repetitively cross over my forearms and completely follow through with my swing. which completely cured my slice. it was hard at first, but now i don't even think of it. if anything i hook a little when i'm off.

It is fantastic that you got this instruction early on. Hooking is easier to control IMO. Before I played last night I spent about 45 minutes intentionally hitting hooks. I can scale them back a bit, whereas with the slice, it seems to be all or nothing with the driver. With the irons I can move it a bit both ways.

Incidentally, last night I felt almost like a pro when I hit an approach into a slightly elevated green, and it skipped once, and sucked back almost into the hole. It only moved back about 3 feet. Had I been using a better ball it would've gone in!
 

meltdown75

Lifer
Nov 17, 2004
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i bought a box of 15 Top Flite XL 3000 "Super Straight" balls on Sunday. I wanted the least amount of spin I could find. :D

So far so good!
 

stag3

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i tried a few diff types of golf balls, basically anything thats ultra distance kills me, i need to use a soft ball and have found that playing maxfli noodles work best for me. ill have to try the XL 3000's and see how they are.
 

Patt

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Originally posted by: meltdown75
i bought a box of 15 Top Flite XL 3000 "Super Straight" balls on Sunday. I wanted the least amount of spin I could find. :D

So far so good!

I can't do that ... I've tried, but I'm an admitted golf-ball snob. If it doesn't have great spin on the greens, I don't want it. I love flying a low 2-skipper onto the green and seeing it stop. Granted, the new balls are so much better, even the lower-end than ever before, but still. I play a lot of Pro-V's, but I almost never buy them (unless I get a gift card or something). I find at least one Pro-V or Callaway Tour HX every round I play, so I've got lots. I also have shoe boxes full of Top Flites in the garage that are either pilfered by my wife, or I use chipping with my dog retrieving. :)
 

junkerman123

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Any of you guys play a natural fade/draw on your shots, or do you just try to go down the middle?

Just wondering.
 

stag3

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valkerie: if you find golf boring, why did you even come into this thread?

junkerman123: i'm nowhere near being able to control my shots, i just try to hit it as straight as possible right now :)
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: purbeast0
awesome clubs! guess what I'm getting tomorrow?

my new set of irons!!! :D

i am going to be skipping the gym after work tomorrow to go hit the largest possible bucket at the range :).

i think you may have posted it -- but what are you getting? :) post some pics of the clubheads when you get 'em.

These are the irons I ordered.

They are basically fusion clones with LPG's touch. I can't wait to get them! I ordered them with the TT Dynamic Gold SL steel shafts and the Lamkin Permawrap Classic grips. I also ordered 3 extra grips to put on my driver, SW, and LW because I had a demo club w/this grip and it was SSSOOO nice.