Golf - How do I draw the ball?

[mryellow]

I don't worry about face position at impact, although I like to assume it's square. I worry more about my swing shape.

As you mentioned you need an in to out path to create the type of draw you're probably looking for (aka not a hook ;D).

When I'm looking to hit a draw I flatten my swing plane a little bit and concentrate on finishing a little bit flatter as well.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

No shit, but they're opposite ends of the spectrum and you clearly understood what I was talking about, so the point was apparently made. I can't think of anything else to illustrate a ball that spun just enough to go straight vs one that spun out of control.

No Zippy, you didn't make your point and no they're not as opposite as you seem to think. The balata and the Magna were opposite ends of the performance spectrum, one was used by good players and the other was marketed to major hackers. The Magna was a hard covered rock, but it spun MORE than other hard-covered rocks because it was larger, met more air resistance and therefore curved more. It was perhaps not only the worst ball ever made, but it was the stupidest ball ever made because anyone that understood anything about the physics of the game (that leaves you and Fern out) knew that making a ball larger would make it more curve-happy which is exactly the opposite of how it was advertised.

 

[rasczak]

How do you address the ball?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNauilZRzHk

LOL! Such a classic. **wipes tears**

 

[Fern]

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A dead square face moving cross the target line will produce exactly the same spin.

The only way you can claim a "square face" is if you're referring to the club face in relation to the target. That's a incorrect way to go about it. The club face's position must be in relation the swing path.

I can have an inside/out swing path and my club face open (to the right of) to the target (i.e., the green) and still not hit a fade/slice, in fact I can hit a (baby) draw.

Yes, "over the top casting" is a common reason for many hitting a slice, but so is a reverse weight shift, among several others. In any case, that seems irrelevant because is not complaining of a fade/slice, but a push. If he's using the term correctly it means he isn't fading/slicing the ball, but rather a straight ball flight merely mis-aimed to the right.

Fern

 

[GobBluth]

The only way you can claim a "square face" is if you're referring to the club face in relation to the target. That's a incorrect way to go about it. The club face's position must be in relation the swing path.

I can have an inside/out swing path and my club face open (to the right of) to the target (i.e., the green) and still not hit a fade/slice, in fact I can hit a (baby) draw.

Yes, "over the top casting" is a common reason for many hitting a slice, but so is a reverse weight shift, among several others. In any case, that seems irrelevant because is not complaining of a fade/slice, but a push. If he's using the term correctly it means he isn't fading/slicing the ball, but rather a straight ball flight merely mis-aimed to the right.

Fern

You would be correct Fern. I don't have a slice, but merely when I try to swing inside out I push the ball right of the target line.

 

[sjwaste]

You would be correct Fern. I don't have a slice, but merely when I try to swing inside out I push the ball right of the target line.

You might be trying to swing inside-out by shifting weight to the back leg. You essentially have a straight swing path, just shifted to the right, and you'll hit a higher shot if you don't skull it. If it feels like you're playing in sneakers when you do that, it's probably a weight shift issue. If you can get it to work, the advantage of altering your grip strength is that it doesn't screw with the fundamentals of lining up to the target, whereas moving your feet might.

 

[Ausm]

With a pencil and paper?