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The head lags behind and stays open. At least that is always what happens when I swing a flexible shaft, like graphite.
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The head lags behind and stays open. At least that is always what happens when I swing a flexible shaft, like graphite.
all i know is when i used a stiffer shaft the same swing, hit got me straighter results, with the more flexible shaft that swing gets me a hit that fades away from me.
Tamarack, Quail Brook, Tara Greens and a couple others i never got the names of. i played a couple in Bucks County, PA that i don't remember the names of either.
mugs
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Cool, I work in Bucks County. The nicest course I've played at is the Architects Club in Phillipsburg, NJ (Warren County).
High Bridge Hills near Clinton, NJ (Hunterdon County) is very nice too, they have an awesome par 3 across a ravine that's like 100 feet deep. You don't want to miss the green on that one.
you are wrong. The more flexible shaft, the farther left the ball will go on a right handed golfer. Most people feel the way you do, but golfers know better. And I promise you that just because it's graphite doesn't make it more flexible than steel.
As for the guy who hits his 7 iron 200 yards---I call BS. 110 mph on a driver in no way correlates to 200 yards on a 7 iron. What a load of crap. unless he hits a ground hook by de-lofting the club so severely it quits performing like it is designed to do. I have $5,000 paypal I'll wager against him that he can't CARRY a 7 iron 200 yards. And I'll even pay for my own airfare to see it. Anytime, just let me know.
just out of curiosity.
what are expected distances for amateurs for the different clubs and what do the pros hit?
as i posted in the OP, i'm hitting about 165 with my new cpr 26 degree club. thats no roll and pretty bad balls. should i work on my swing to increase that distance is that a decent distance for that club?
i'd appreciate the info.
CubicZirconia
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I'm not an expert, so this is going to be a non-answer answer. I apologize. There are lots of problems with trying to estimate how far a person should hit any given club- for a number of reasons. Number one, not all clubs are created the same. My nine iron might have 3-4 less degrees of loft than yours. So while I may hit my nine iron farther than you hit yours, it could be that if we each had a club with the same degree loft, we'd hit it the same distance. With everyone under the sun obsessed with distance, club manufacterers have begun to deloft clubs. What's a nine iron today might have been an eight iron 10 years ago. This is part of the reason why you see "gap" wedges. All the clubs from pitching wedge on down have been delofted for more distance, but the sand wedge has stayed the same. Thus the gap between the sand wedge and pitching wedge has widened, and the gap wedge was born. I'm getting off tangent here, but I think you can see what I'm getting at. Even if we assumed that everyone's clubs had exactly the same degrees of loft, it would still be difficult to come up with a set of expected distances. As everyone has been talking about, club speed is a big factor. Provided you both have decent swings, a guy swinging 15 mph faster than you is going to hit it farther.
With all that said, I'm sure you could find a set of expected distances for each club. Just don't take much stock in it. Nobody's swing is the same, so don't worry about it. Besides, consistantly hitting it straight is much more important than hitting it long.
Edit: You can pretty much throw out everything I said when it comes to the pros. They tend to be a lot more consistant, so you could probably find an expected distance list that actually means something at the professional level. Not that there isn't a lot of variance among the pros, but there is going to be a lot more consistancy than with amatuers.
I know people that can hit a 5-iron farther than that, and none of them are pga material. 200 yards isn't that far. It's pretty good distance, but its certainly not unbelievable.
For those of who doubt my ability to hit a 7 iron 200 yards, you are welcome to come and visit me here in Indiana. I am always up for a round of golf, although I have not had a chance to play yet this year (too busy with school and work). As for my driver swing speed, I am guessing as what it is right now. It was around 105 when I was a freshman in high school and I am now 22 so it is probably more than that now. As for my distances for my irons they all are seperated by about 10 yards per club. The shots are not low line drives where I would close the face of the club. They are all nice high shots that are very nice to watch. 
Your location and type of ball makes a big difference. If I'm at home at sea level on a muggy day with a nice, high-priced spin ball, from 200 yards I'll hit a hard 5. If I'm playing an XL in the desert, I'm hitting a smooth 7/easy 6. And I've never played in Denver, but that would probably even go down to an 8 iron, depending on the ball I'm playing.
Originally posted by: nightowl
For those of who doubt my ability to hit a 7 iron 200 yards, you are welcome to come and visit me here in Indiana. I am always up for a round of golf, although I have not had a chance to play yet this year (too busy with school and work). As for my driver swing speed, I am guessing as what it is right now. It was around 105 when I was a freshman in high school and I am now 22 so it is probably more than that now. As for my distances for my irons they all are seperated by about 10 yards per club. The shots are not low line drives where I would close the face of the club. They are all nice high shots that are very nice to watch.
care to wager $5,000 on it? I bet you cannot CARRY a 7 iron 200 yards in Indiana. By 7 iron I am even willing to allow you to use the new standard of 34* instead of the old 36-38*. You name the time and place, and I'll be there to collect. If your driver swing speed was the same as Sergio Garcias's, you still can't carry one 200 yards. And that's about 127 MPH with driver. Just for reference, Vijay Singh carries his 7 iron 175 yards, and his 28* 5 iron 205. You really think you're longer than him? If so, you win idiot of the year. I have 5 grand to prove it. Man enough for a little wager?
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Originally posted by: diamondgoat53
Originally posted by: nightowl
For those of who doubt my ability to hit a 7 iron 200 yards, you are welcome to come and visit me here in Indiana. I am always up for a round of golf, although I have not had a chance to play yet this year (too busy with school and work). As for my driver swing speed, I am guessing as what it is right now. It was around 105 when I was a freshman in high school and I am now 22 so it is probably more than that now. As for my distances for my irons they all are seperated by about 10 yards per club. The shots are not low line drives where I would close the face of the club. They are all nice high shots that are very nice to watch.
care to wager $5,000 on it? I bet you cannot CARRY a 7 iron 200 yards in Indiana. By 7 iron I am even willing to allow you to use the new standard of 34* instead of the old 36-38*. You name the time and place, and I'll be there to collect. If your driver swing speed was the same as Sergio Garcias's, you still can't carry one 200 yards. And that's about 127 MPH with driver. Just for reference, Vijay Singh carries his 7 iron 175 yards, and his 28* 5 iron 205. You really think you're longer than him? If so, you win idiot of the year. I have 5 grand to prove it. Man enough for a little wager?
I think it's possible. It all depends on how you hold the iron and the angle you are swing it at. If you hold the iron with closed face and swing it like a baseball bat, it could go 200yards with lucky bounce..
I was able to hit around 160-170 (rarely when I do make a contact) when I started, but now I get around 130-140 with correct swing and lot more consistancy. Consistance is more important than distance. If I want more distance, I would go with either hybrid or 5 iron..
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I'm in Minnesota and I play Dunlop "arrow straight" balls. They're five bucks a dozen brand new, but they work well enough for me. Personally I don't see a huge difference in distance, trajectory, or direction between different types of balls. I'd say the result of any particular swing is based 95+% on the swing you make, not the ball you play. When someone tells me they hit one type of ball 15-20 yards further than another, I have to start asking questions. Unless you're all pro and you are extremely consistant with your swing, I don't think it makes that much of a difference.
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So, how about David Duval playing in the US open? I'll be surprised if he makes the cut, but who knows.
i think you could have put that in it's own thread.
it wouldn't be considered a repost of this one.
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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
i think you could have put that in it's own thread.
it wouldn't be considered a repost of this one.
Yeah, but this thread was already here and it was about golf. Generally golf threads don't get much response on AT- but this one is doing nicely. I figure we can beat this thread for awhile longer before its dead.
Originally posted by: CubicZirconia
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
i think you could have put that in it's own thread.
it wouldn't be considered a repost of this one.
Yeah, but this thread was already here and it was about golf. Generally golf threads don't get much response on AT- but this one is doing nicely. I figure we can beat this thread for awhile longer before its dead.
well, to add to this thread.
a friend of mine gave me his Yonex Driver. nice stiff shaft and a smaller (not oversized) head. perfect for me and my swing. i was at the driving range the other day and was hitting very nicely with it.
i like the way my set of clubs is coming together.
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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: CubicZirconia
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
i think you could have put that in it's own thread.
it wouldn't be considered a repost of this one.
Yeah, but this thread was already here and it was about golf. Generally golf threads don't get much response on AT- but this one is doing nicely. I figure we can beat this thread for awhile longer before its dead.
well, to add to this thread.
a friend of mine gave me his Yonex Driver. nice stiff shaft and a smaller (not oversized) head. perfect for me and my swing. i was at the driving range the other day and was hitting very nicely with it.
i like the way my set of clubs is coming together.
I definitely wouldn't worry about the non-oversized head (not that you seem to). I personally don't have a lot of experience hitting them, but I do have a lot of experience in watching other people hit them (I golf a lot). And from what I've seen, if you can't hit a regular driver, you're not going to be able to hit an oversized. It's fun to watch people try though.
Originally posted by: CubicZirconia
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: CubicZirconia
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
i think you could have put that in it's own thread.
it wouldn't be considered a repost of this one.
Yeah, but this thread was already here and it was about golf. Generally golf threads don't get much response on AT- but this one is doing nicely. I figure we can beat this thread for awhile longer before its dead.
well, to add to this thread.
a friend of mine gave me his Yonex Driver. nice stiff shaft and a smaller (not oversized) head. perfect for me and my swing. i was at the driving range the other day and was hitting very nicely with it.
i like the way my set of clubs is coming together.
I definitely wouldn't worry about the non-oversized head (not that you seem to). I personally don't have a lot of experience hitting them, but I do have a lot of experience in watching other people hit them (I golf a lot). And from what I've seen, if you can't hit a regular driver, you're not going to be able to hit an oversized. It's fun to watch people try though.
actually, i like that the head is smaller, it concentrates the weight where i hit the ball. i like the balance of this club.
True.
With the balls I normally play in my home area, I hit an 7 iron 172.
If I take out a rock (i.e. less than a dollar a ball new), I hit a 7 iron about 176.
Now, I'm far from pro-level consistancy, but my swing creates the same distance within a couple of yards about 90% of the time. It's knowing the right distance, factoring in wind, trajectory, direction, and hoping it's not one of those dreaded 10% that make me shoot to a 4 and not to a +4
If I play a distance ball, however, I'll err on the short side and play a half club less, give or take, every time.
A couple of things here:
Distance for an iron should be CARRY distance.
To the guy hitting a 7-iron 200: If you have 196 to carry the water with the pin cut on the front of the green, with a 5 hole carry-over on a 3 dollar bet, do you hit 7?
Now to the main point. Do all you guys use GOLF as a verb? I PLAY golf, I never GOLF.
LOL
Distance for an iron should be CARRY distance.
To the guy hitting a 7-iron 200: If you have 196 to carry the water with the pin cut on the front of the green, with a 5 hole carry-over on a 3 dollar bet, do you hit 7?
Now to the main point. Do all you guys use GOLF as a verb? I PLAY golf, I never GOLF.
LOL
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