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I need some help so I can try and solve this argument with third party opinions.
Me and a bunch of guys I know were in an argument over who would win in a fight over who would in in a fight between the wrestler Goldberg and Jet Li. The two sides of the argument argued as follows:
Both sides agree that Goldberg's wrestling moves are worthless and do not pertain to or help him with any fight he would have with Jet Li. Goldberg is 6'5" and weighs around 270lbs. Jet Li is 5"6' and around 145 pounds.
Pro Goldbergers (GB) argued that it would take one hit from GB to take out JL (Jet Li). JLers argued that JL, with his martial arts training etc, would never allow GB to land a blow. JLers said JL would unleash and onslaught of well placed hits on GB until he finally lost the fight. GBers then argued that there are two ways to stop a blow from GB, one is to dodge it and the other is to deflect it by pushing away the inside of Goldberg's arm while he swung. They argued that Goldberg's overwhelming size and strength in comparison to JL would mean he would fail to deflect it, and the resulting blow would most likely break JL's face. JLers then argued GB would never land a blow because JL is so fast. GBers then argued that if GB got his hands on JL at all, he would be able to grapple him up close and head-butt him with enough force that it would be enough to incompacitate JL. JLers then argued that if grappled JL would be able to kick himself away from GB easily, and would be nearly impossible to grapple. GBers argued that JL could not inflict enough damage on the massive GB before he was able to get ahold of JL and take him out. They also argued that GB is incredibly fast for his size, citing the fact that he played professional football and is in extremely good physical condition. JLers said JL has been training in martial arts since he was very young and is one of the greatest martial artists alive today. It was at this point that I came to the conclusion we would not be able to make a final decision about the argument, and we needed some help
BTW, it was my opinion that Goldberg would have won. He would be able to get in 1 solid bunch to Jet Li's chest or head and it would be all over. Even when I assumed he would be unable to land a punch, I just couldn't see someone Jet Li's size stopping Goldberg from running up, lifting him up with his arms pinned by his side and just head-butting him unconscious. I have lots of respect for Jet Li's fighting ability and speed, but theres a point where size and strength cannot be stopped by speed alone. I made the analogy of a Humvee with a mounted machine gun to a tank. Sure the humvee could do some damage to the tank, and has the ability to move around a lot faster then the tank dodging shots from the tank, but once the tank fights smart and plans ahead and shoots ahead of the direction the humvee is going, the fight is over.
In any case, I need more opinions on this from all you educated ATers
Me and a bunch of guys I know were in an argument over who would win in a fight over who would in in a fight between the wrestler Goldberg and Jet Li. The two sides of the argument argued as follows:
Both sides agree that Goldberg's wrestling moves are worthless and do not pertain to or help him with any fight he would have with Jet Li. Goldberg is 6'5" and weighs around 270lbs. Jet Li is 5"6' and around 145 pounds.
Pro Goldbergers (GB) argued that it would take one hit from GB to take out JL (Jet Li). JLers argued that JL, with his martial arts training etc, would never allow GB to land a blow. JLers said JL would unleash and onslaught of well placed hits on GB until he finally lost the fight. GBers then argued that there are two ways to stop a blow from GB, one is to dodge it and the other is to deflect it by pushing away the inside of Goldberg's arm while he swung. They argued that Goldberg's overwhelming size and strength in comparison to JL would mean he would fail to deflect it, and the resulting blow would most likely break JL's face. JLers then argued GB would never land a blow because JL is so fast. GBers then argued that if GB got his hands on JL at all, he would be able to grapple him up close and head-butt him with enough force that it would be enough to incompacitate JL. JLers then argued that if grappled JL would be able to kick himself away from GB easily, and would be nearly impossible to grapple. GBers argued that JL could not inflict enough damage on the massive GB before he was able to get ahold of JL and take him out. They also argued that GB is incredibly fast for his size, citing the fact that he played professional football and is in extremely good physical condition. JLers said JL has been training in martial arts since he was very young and is one of the greatest martial artists alive today. It was at this point that I came to the conclusion we would not be able to make a final decision about the argument, and we needed some help
BTW, it was my opinion that Goldberg would have won. He would be able to get in 1 solid bunch to Jet Li's chest or head and it would be all over. Even when I assumed he would be unable to land a punch, I just couldn't see someone Jet Li's size stopping Goldberg from running up, lifting him up with his arms pinned by his side and just head-butting him unconscious. I have lots of respect for Jet Li's fighting ability and speed, but theres a point where size and strength cannot be stopped by speed alone. I made the analogy of a Humvee with a mounted machine gun to a tank. Sure the humvee could do some damage to the tank, and has the ability to move around a lot faster then the tank dodging shots from the tank, but once the tank fights smart and plans ahead and shoots ahead of the direction the humvee is going, the fight is over.
In any case, I need more opinions on this from all you educated ATers
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