Going to try Linux

NivekC4

Golden Member
Apr 26, 2000
1,800
0
0
So far I have been a lifetime Windows user...and I've been flirting with the idea of experimenting with Linux. I have some quick questions and concerns that some of you may help clear up and persuade me into Linux.

1) Will all of my hardware work in Linux?
2) I'm currently running Win 2k...Will I be able to see my files in Linux if I'm on NTFS?
3) When I decide to install Linux...will I have to reformat my HD and reinstall Windows?
a) If Yes, Which Do I install first?
4) Sorry for sounding stupid, Does Linux have the same capabilities as Windows?
5) Which version (Mandrake, Red Hat, etc) is the best to start with?

Thanks for taking the time to read this, and I really do appreciate your responses.
Hope to join some of you in the world of Linux.

NivekC4
 

Elledan

Banned
Jul 24, 2000
8,880
0
0


<< 1) Will all of my hardware work in Linux? >>

Most hardware is currently supported. It shouldn't give you any problems.


<< 2) I'm currently running Win 2k...Will I be able to see my files in Linux if I'm on NTFS? >>

Linux can read NTFS filesystems, but can NOT write to them. Although there are attempts to accomplish this, it usually leads to corruption and data loss.


<< 3) When I decide to install Linux...will I have to reformat my HD and reinstall Windows?
a) If Yes, Which Do I install first?
>>

You can install Linux on a seperate partition and either install Linux's own bootmanager (LILO) or Win2k's bootmanager (which requires some fiddling with files, but it's not too difficult). You shouldn't have to reformat the HD if you do things well. I recommend installing Linux on a seperate HD instead on a partition on the Windows HD.


<< 4) Sorry for sounding stupid, Does Linux have the same capabilities as Windows? >>

Depends on which capatibilities you're talking about :)

There are many different GUI's for Linux to choose from, with KDE and GNOME being the most preferred and used ones. Multimedia support is pretty good as well. Stability is superb if you configure the system well enough. So far I'm able to do anything with Linux I could do with Win2k


<< 5) Which version (Mandrake, Red Hat, etc) is the best to start with? >>

Mandrake is easy to start with. It's recommended for beginners. Then after a while you might want to use some of the more powerful distros available, like SuSe, which is the distro I currently use.


Hope this helps :)
 

LordUnum

Golden Member
Jul 3, 2001
1,153
0
0
As long as you aren't a big-time gamer, you should have a lot of fun in Tux's world. :D
 

n0cmonkey

Elite Member
Jun 10, 2001
42,936
1
0


<< So far I have been a lifetime Windows user...and I've been flirting with the idea of experimenting with Linux. I have some quick questions and concerns that some of you may help clear up and persuade me into Linux.

1) Will all of my hardware work in Linux?
>>



Couldnt tell you without knowing your hardware



<< 2) I'm currently running Win 2k...Will I be able to see my files in Linux if I'm on NTFS? >>



Yes



<< 3) When I decide to install Linux...will I have to reformat my HD and reinstall Windows?
a) If Yes, Which Do I install first?
>>



If you have unallocated portions of your disk or an extra disk you will not have to reformat. If your whole disk is in use by Windows you will have to do some formatting.



<< 4) Sorry for sounding stupid, Does Linux have the same capabilities as Windows? >>



Depends. Without information on what you mean this cannoy be answered.



<< 5) Which version (Mandrake, Red Hat, etc) is the best to start with? >>



Slack.



<< Thanks for taking the time to read this, and I really do appreciate your responses.
Hope to join some of you in the world of Linux.

NivekC4
>>

 

Soybomb

Diamond Member
Jun 30, 2000
9,506
2
81


<< f you have unallocated portions of your disk or an extra disk you will not have to reformat. If your whole disk is in use by Windows you will have to do some formatting. >>

You're almost right. He won't have to format to get some extra space necessarily, but repartition. You can repartition your harddrive with a program like drivemagic nondestructively.



<< << 5) Which version (Mandrake, Red Hat, etc) is the best to start with? >> Slack. >>

Not unless he's trying to learn how to configure a server. Its way too much headache for a new user. If you're starting out and want to use linux as a desktop either get mandrake, redhat, or maybe even suse.
 

n0cmonkey

Elite Member
Jun 10, 2001
42,936
1
0


<<

<< f you have unallocated portions of your disk or an extra disk you will not have to reformat. If your whole disk is in use by Windows you will have to do some formatting. >>

You're almost right. He won't have to format to get some extra space necessarily, but repartition. You can repartition your harddrive with a program like drivemagic nondestructively.
>>



Partition magic can do it for win9x and I assume NT/2k.



<<

<< << 5) Which version (Mandrake, Red Hat, etc) is the best to start with? >> Slack. >>

Not unless he's trying to learn how to configure a server. Its way too much headache for a new user. If you're starting out and want to use linux as a desktop either get mandrake, redhat, or maybe even suse.
>>



Slack works great as a desktop and has the added benefit of letting you learn linux.
 

mcveigh

Diamond Member
Dec 20, 2000
6,457
6
81
FYI
I've never gotten redhat or mandrake to read my win2000 partitioins. although I think they can read older versins of NTFS

I just switched to SUSE 7.2 and it can read but not write(none can that I'm aware of) to my NTFS partitions

I'd reccomend Mandrake 8.0
 

MGMorden

Diamond Member
Jul 4, 2000
3,348
0
76
The distro doesn't have anything to do with reading an NTFS partition. That's a function of the kernel (kernel handles all supported filessystems). And I've been able to read my NTFS partitions from Mandrake and Slackware. Never tried it on any other distro.
 

Damaged

Diamond Member
Oct 11, 1999
3,020
0
0
Oh, there's write support but...it's DANGEROUS. Even says so when you choose that option. I've had people muck around with it all with varying degrees of failure so far. So effectively read only for now. Unless you like jumping out a plane with a poorly packed chute.
 

n0cmonkey

Elite Member
Jun 10, 2001
42,936
1
0


<< Oh, there's write support but...it's DANGEROUS. Even says so when you choose that option. I've had people muck around with it all with varying degrees of failure so far. So effectively read only for now. Unless you like jumping out a plane with a poorly packed chute. >>



From what I have read this is in part due to the fact MS changes the specs for NTFS on occassion. Much like they do for .doc. If the filesystem stayed the sam there would be many fewer problems with developping r/w support for it.
 

mcveigh

Diamond Member
Dec 20, 2000
6,457
6
81
yes, MS is always mucking things up changin specs and standards, can you say &quot;forced upgrade&quot;
 

n0cmonkey

Elite Member
Jun 10, 2001
42,936
1
0


<< yes, MS is always mucking things up changin specs and standards, can you say &quot;forced upgrade&quot; >>



I used to, then I installed OpenBSD, now I upgrade by choice :D
 

Koeppster

Senior member
Jul 6, 2001
331
0
0
1) Will all of my hardware work in Linux?

The best way to find out is by checking a hardware compatibility list, which you could find at this site or at Redhat.

4) Sorry for sounding stupid, Does Linux have the same capabilities as Windows?

No need to be sorry, it is a very good question and one which you'll need to have answered based on what you do. If you like desktops, icons, menus, and a highly polished graphical environment, Linux might not be right for you. There are some terrific efforts making great strides toward providing these things, but you might not find them suitable for your needs. I can say unequivocally that Linux will not offer you the same gaming capabilities as Windows. If you are into programming, it's my opinion that Linux offers vastly superior possibilities for software development in some respects. If you like tinkering with the performance of your system and/or doing lots of networking or administration, I also believe Linux is more powerful--IF you know what you're doing.

5) Which version (Mandrake, Red Hat, etc) is the best to start with?

At this point, I part company with the other posters who offered you suggestions. Mandrake is probably ok, Redhat is probably ok, but to me the most important thing to choose when you decide to start out with Linux (or any flavor of Unix, for that matter) is how much time you want to spend with it and how badly you want to become proficient. I have had seemingly countless friends tell me they want to install Linux and try it out, only to go crawling (my term...LOL) back to Winders after a couple of weeks because they lost interest. At times, figuring out how to do something or fix something can be difficult. When I started 3+ years ago, I went all out--removed Winders entirely and forced myself to learn everything on my own, but that's because I was willing to put up with some difficulties. Luckily, I also had some experience with NeXTStep, IRIX, and Digital's OSF/1 to fall back on. I read man pages, I got a little (actually very little) advice from fellow geeks, I relied heavily on the Linux Documentation Project (now at http://www.linuxdoc.org). I poked through scripts on my system trying to figure out what they did. I compiled things. There have been things that have made me want to pull my hair out, but on balance, there's no way I'll ever go back to Winders. When I have to use my machine at work (we are a Winders-only shop), I can literally FEEL myself become less productive--but thank God for Cygwin.

But those kind of things might be far beyond what you want to do. I'm not trying to discourage you...not at all. I suggest you try it out, with whatever distribution you feel like. If you can make it over the peak of whatever learning curve fits your needs, I think you'll be happy you tried it. Someday you too could enjoy the email nirvana created by the combination of mutt and procmail, impress your friends by connecting remotely to your X server by tunneling through SSH, or compile the latest nightly builds of Mozilla. :) Best of luck!